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The topic is whether creation should be taught along with evolution in our schools.
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Christian creationism should only be taught in a class devoted to religion. Additionally, other creation myths from different religious traditions should be taught alongside it. Darwin's Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection should also be taught in the classroom (the science classroom that is), along with alternative theories that have been devised to explain the observed process of evolution, such as Lamarck's failed theories. As the biblical explanation for evolution is not scientific, it should not be taught in the science classroom.
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So, naturally, I've been spending some time searching for facts and info, because I'm curious about the "Science" part of Creation Science.
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There is no such thing as "creation science". Creationists have never submitted a single paper to the scientific community for review and criticism. Creationists have never even attempted to make use of the scientific method. Why is this? A few points that need to be made:
-Science is based on observable phenomena that are subject to critical analysis. Christianity is based on things that are completely beyond human analysis, by their own admission.
-The specific conclusions of Christianity are its definition. The specific conclusions of science are the result of applying the scientific method.
-Christianity is not subject to alteration due to new observations. Science is.
"Creation science" makes use of Christian ideas, not scientific ones. It is in all respects religious, and in no respects scientific.
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They discuss certain fossil discoveries, gaps in fossil records, the Grand Canyon, simple molecules evolving into living cells, etc.
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Yes, and thousands of years ago people believed angry gods tossed thunderbolts from the heavens, because they had not yet come up with an explanation for lightning. Seriously, if science could explain everything, then there would be no more need for scientists.
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What I've found, so far, in a nutshell, is this: "We can't explain it, so it must have been created."
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Same logic as above. Also, a prime example of religious egocentrism, assuming that "creation" must be the Christian variety, and all others are wrong by default.
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This is about what I expected to find, so if any of you know any Creation Science sites or books that offer something of at least a little more substance, I'd be happy to chcek them out. Thus far, this looks like a bunch of horseshit.
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To be perfectly honest, that's all your going to find. You could try looking up some Christian apologetic sites, like
http://www.christiananswers.net/, but frankly most of the points they raise have either been refuted or are unsupportable.
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Evolution need not be taught as being true.
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Yes, it does need be taught as true. Evolution is an observed fact. It is Darwin's Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection that should not be taught as fact, as it is only an attempt to explain the process of evolution.
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I think Vince said that the scientific community was 60/40 in favor of creationism.
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I would love to see the evidence for that.
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I don't understand why so many people think that evolution counters Christianity. Anyone who interprets the bible that literally needs to be shot anyway.
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Correct on both counts.