Philosophy etc. Book Club

[Helm]

http://users.compaqnet.be/cn127103/N.../bge-epode.htm

Nietchgrhgjkege being the total art fag that he is, finishes off Beyond good and Evil with a poem of his. And it sucks. And we're not discussing it. Ever.

[theapportioner]

I haven't even started reading it yet!!

[Helm]

Give it another 30 days then? I haven't finished rereading either.

[Triad-Brother Choi]

I am in the middle, & quite perplexed. An extension would be most auspicious.

Thank You.

[theapportioner]

An extension's fine. Maybe like the end of February?

[Helm]

Right.

[Triad-Brother Choi]

I take the silence from everyone as a sign that you've all done as much reading as I have for this. Namely none. Which is a shame as I certainly launched myself at the text at first with much verve & interest.

Your Triad Friend,
Choi.

[Helm]

I read the whole thing again.

[Zhukov]

I was planning to read it, and pretend I knew what I was doing.

Couldn't be stuffed though.

The last couple of posts in this thread are a real hoot.

[The_Rorschach]

Yeah but Helm, Niezche works were all written originally in German. I mean, not everyone can be a Louis Silverstien.

[Helm]

Through The Sumer fields I ride
My Beacon of Silver Light
A fertile Crescent
The Bearer of Plague

Under iron rule (of)
Patriarchs of christ
I refuse their poison
Crucifix Will Fall

For Centuries they?ll Crawl

Parched with the search for wisdom
Drowned in their holy lies
The Dusk of theology
Never dawns to man

Bread of the cult of the dead
Wine of the cult of the dead
In the court prepared

Crescentian...

Tear down the sun from heavens
Set Ablaze Our Mercury Hearts
A Satanic Millenium
The Era of...

Rend their robes Asunder
Bombard the temples
Leave Not stone upon stone
Like A Scythe We Will Reap!!!

And rejoice Crescentian Night

[theapportioner]

I kinda got sidetracked with a ton of work at lab, but I'm almost finished. Might as well get something started.

What, IYO, is Nietszche's rationale for criticizing utilitarianism as a moral theory? How is it different from classical morality? Thoughts?

[The_Rorschach]

Oooh oooh oooh! I'm going to get an Einstein quote from home before I respond to this one. I actually know the answer for once!

[Helm]

Practicality should not be the determining factor of morality, since morality determines action, not the other way around. Comes first Hm... Whether said action is 'practical' or not should not be a determining factor. In that utilitarianism suggests the opposite (well, generally speaking. it does consider practicality a decisive factor nonetheless), Nietszcgsdhe found much to be disgusted at, understandably. Utilitarianism has right what proves beneficial for the majority. Utilitarianism thinks the best what is best for the most. And we have nietscxdgfdhwe who stresses how the difficult stuff in life (pain, uncomfortableness) are very important in making life something worth living. Pain is sort of a failsafe for any philosophy or knowledge, in testing. Sort of a no pain no gain thing.

Nietscdghne's own morality is based on moral abstraction. His 'virtues' are detached from circumstance and do not fail to apply if they're too difficult or too painful or whatever. In that I completely agree with him since I consider awareness and undertsanding to be more important that wellbeing.

In the other hand, a society fails to achieve the basic educational foundation so as to be aware if it's not at least generally content, materially... but I doubt nitesfsdgfhche cared at all for how his morality were to be applied massively.