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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 04:05 PM        All Right, So Let's Say We're Successful
When we win this thing, what do you guys think the chances are that we will be successful in creating a lasting democracy in the middle east? Our humanitarian track record hasn't been especially good so far. Your thoughts?
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 04:11 PM       
im not as worried about iraq as i am about this "palestinian state" thing floating around right now...
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 06:37 PM       
[sarcasm]BUT WHY NOT OUR PRESIDENT IS A GENIUS[/sarcasm]

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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 07:44 PM       
Not much chance, Rhumsfeld has already started saying that the 'allied' forces (all 3 or so of them) aren't really responsible for rebuilding Iraq.. i think the bush administration is relying on the short attention span of the average american so they can abandon Iraq as soon as the business contracts are in place.

one goal has been met however.. i hear that weapons sales have gone up.. pfft, bastards!
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 09:41 PM       
I would wholeheartedly support the war if I believed the government was in this to democratize and rebuild Iraq.

History makes me distrustful, however :/
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 10:07 PM       
You'll probably leave Iraq for Canada to rebuild, just like you've done with Afghanistan.
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 10:09 PM       
Well, you guys have all the timber
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Old Mar 28th, 2003, 10:22 PM       
We are currently making a giant log jam across the Atlantic. Soon, all the men who step lightly will prance across, jumping from log to log, to bring democratic civilization to the downtrodden Arabs.

And there will be plenty of bannock and singing for everyone.


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Old Mar 29th, 2003, 01:39 AM       
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I'd have to agree.

I'm not pro Saddam, I do think he should go.

I'm just 99% certain that as soon as Haliburton (yes, they already got a contract thanks to dick "dick" cheney, the bastards) gets to rebuild the oil wells and General tommy boy gets to play democratic military dictator for a few months, the americans will just fuck off and leave everyone to starve.

Thats where a lot of the anti war anti US sentiment is coming from, and the media is really not getting that across.

I'm sure I'm not alone when I say, If the US fucks this one up, of all the things they could fuck up and all the things they ever have, I just dont know what I'll think...

i'm sure a large portion of the american public will forget as you say, but the other 8 billion people in the world wont.
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Old Mar 29th, 2003, 04:00 PM       
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You'll probably leave Iraq for Canada to rebuild, just like you've done with Afghanistan.
No doubt that the U.S. seems to have a history of using countries until they have outgrown their usefulness to us and then leaving them high n' dry. It's the American way. :/ The only reason that this particular operation (and that in Afghanistan) make me think a little differently is that out government is heavily selling both as an altruistic and humanitarian rebuilding of deomocracy. In other words, they've put a big spotlight on it so that not only does the world see our self-indulgence, the citizens of our fair country also have it on their minds. Our government's always had a way of hiding it's misadventures in the media and now it has to "pony up" and make it count. I'm just wondering if they'll come through now that we're REALLY watching.
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Old Mar 29th, 2003, 05:11 PM       
I'd like to believe that our goal is to liberate Iraq, and it would be great if we did, but if that really was our main goal, then why didn't we ever step in for Tibet? Because Tibet isn't sitting on an oil gold mine. Bush has turned this into a personal revenge story, and could probably care less about the Iraqi people.
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Old Apr 1st, 2003, 10:56 AM       
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I'd like to believe that our goal is to liberate Iraq, and it would be great if we did, but if that really was our main goal, then why didn't we ever step in for Tibet? Because Tibet isn't sitting on an oil gold mine. Bush has turned this into a personal revenge story, and could probably care less about the Iraqi people.
I had my same question in regards to our lack of support for the Kurds during the oft mentioned gassing prior to the Gulf War. That wasn't an important area of the country but the region in and around Kuwait is? You have to question motivations here ... really. :/
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