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Old Sep 24th, 2004, 09:37 PM       
Kevin Smith fans are m-m-m-morons

I think Kevin Smith is a fantasticly funny person, and telling stories is what he does best. Just not on film.
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Old Sep 24th, 2004, 09:42 PM       
That's exactly why i like An Evening With Kevin Smith better than, well any of his films
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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 12:51 AM       
oh my fucking god! i just read the best thread ever carnivore! thanks for giving that link to me. because after reading that and laughing my ass off i realized something, half the fucks on this message board can't make up their minds on anything movie wise and the other half either loves kevin smiths work or loves quentin tarentinos work. but listen to me very carefully i like these guys for 2 reasons seperatly. 1. kevin smith is nicer to his fans than most entertainers out there. 2.quentin is one of the best directors and writers in the film industry today. you can just look at one of his movies and see the effort and love that went into them. in closing i would like to say everyone is entitled to their own opinions but mine is that they cannot be matched because their movies are nothing alike and they are nothing alike so take these films for what they are in your opinion.
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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 12:53 AM       
their movies are nothing alike except for the fact that they're terribly overrated
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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 01:31 AM       
bartman, you are a fucking moron.

I agree, Kevin Smith is incredibly nice to his fans, and for that I have lots of respect for him. But how in the hell does that make him a good film-maker?

And WHY THE FUCK do you seem to beleive that every person here should have the same opinion about anything?
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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 01:42 AM       
Hey Bartman I think Dr. Pepper is ver overrated, why don't you write 3 paragraphs about why I am wrong, fucking prick.
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Old Sep 26th, 2004, 01:50 AM       
Dr. Pepper is a replica of Mr. Pibb, but it's a bullshit replica cuz the dude didn't even get his degree.

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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 08:31 PM       
sorry, but my opinion is always right
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 08:34 PM       
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 08:34 PM       
sorry everybody i meant:sorry, but i am always right
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 09:20 PM       
You really are a moron.
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Old Sep 27th, 2004, 09:23 PM       
sorry everybody i meant: you are really a moron.
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 06:24 PM       
even in the kevin smith movies i consider good there's always elements in his movies (the lines, plot developments, character development) that yell "amateur" at every turn. the man with little horns on his head in dogma is horribly written (and acted), most things that happened in mallrats were ill-conceived (though it was a fun flick), and JSBSB is, in the best light, mediocre. but you can tell smith gives a shit about what he writes, flippant or serious, and while sounds like an appeal to pity, it never makes any one of his films (including JSBSB) worthless. to me, there's always a funny bit, it's always at least watchable, and the more he focuses on dialogue rather than drama, the better (making clerks, chasing amy, and many parts of dogma his best stuff). but the real core of this is that he is a director among many, and despite obvious flaws, a cut above. the amount of shit given about someone like him is far too much for what he does, which is essentially being a writer who does movies.
i do love clerks and, yes, the actors who performed so stage-like on it, because it was quick, it was continuous, and it's message wasnt about bullshit or growing up. it even emphasised the inability to overcome obstacles which happens more often than not. that may not be radically different, but it's a factor among many that drew me to it. this sequel has me pretty neutral, so far, the best thing about it being that anderson and o'halloran seem to be game for it. the title is straight kevin smith though, awkward and amateurish, but nothing i've heard so far is putting me right off of it. i actually think it could be good.

and for the record, i do like the animated series.
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