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Sep 5th, 2006, 09:48 AM
I think you're confusing theories with facts. They way you're ridiculing those who have come to a conclusion that the US govt had a hand in the attacks as "silly conspiracy theorist kooks" is only going to slow you down, if not preventing, from seeing the big picture. Perhaps you'll listen to a list of government insiders since they have much more credibility than a little nobody like me...
This list was compiled by CB from Blue Lemur forums
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Originally Posted by cbrawuser
[size=2] Former High Level Government Insiders Speak Up About 9/11
CIA, FBI, NSA, Pentagon, Presidential Advisors, Military Analysts, Aircraft Crash Investigators.... they're all here.
Air Force, Army, Lieutenants, Generals, Colonels.... they're here.
British, Russian, German High Ranks.... they're here too.
When former government insiders speak, we should listen...
Dr Robert Bowman
Former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in Ford/Carter Administrations; Coined the Term ‘Star Wars’, Retired US Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 Combat Missions in Vietnam; Former NASA Rocket Scientist with PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering; Former Intercepter Pilot.
Article: April 4, 2006
VIDEO: NYC, September 11, 2004
AUDIO: May 7, 2006
“If our government had merely done nothing - and I say that as an old interceptor pilot and I know the drill, I know what it takes, I know how long it takes, I know what the procedures are, I know what they were and I know what they changed them to - if our government had merely done nothing and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing and thousands of Americans would still be alive. My sisters and brothers, that is treason!” VIDEO: Washington DC - July 2005
Dr Morgan Reynolds
Chief Economist in the US Department of Labor and Political Appointee for Bush Administration 2001-2002
Former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis
Professor Emeritus at Texas A&M University
VIDEO: University of Wisconsin-Madison - May 6, 2006
VIDEO: Chicago Conference – June 2-4, 2006
Ex-Bush Official Busts 9/11 Perps at U.W. Historical Society
Madison, WI
Saturday, May 6, 2006
“Reynolds indicted Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, former Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Meyers, confessed WTC demolisher and insurance-fraudster Larry Silverstein, and others for mass murder, conspiracy, and other charges including high treason.
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[Reynolds] showed that the defendants conspired to create a false cover story of suicide hijackings in order to “blow the World Trade Center to kingdom come” with explosives—a shock-and-awe psy-op designed to coerce the American people into supporting a pre-planned “long war” in the Middle East, massive increases in military spending, and the rollback of Constitutional civil liberties.” Article: Madison, WI, May 6, 2006
Dr Paul Craig Roberts
Father of Reaganomics; Former Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury Senior Research Fellow at the Hoover Institution; Research Fellow at Stanford's Independent Institute; Former Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal
“Americans never check any facts. Who do you know, for example, who has even read the Report of the 9/11 Commission, much less checked the alleged facts reported in that document. I can answer for you. You don’t know anyone who has read the report or checked the facts. … How do you know that 9/11 was a Muslim terrorist plot? How do you know that three World Trade Center buildings collapsed because two were hit by airliners? You only “know” because the government gave you the explanation of what you saw on TV. (Did you even know that three WTC buildings collapsed?) … Governments lie all the time--especially governments staffed by neoconservatives whose intellectual godfather, Leo Strauss, taught them that it is permissible to deceive the public in order to achieve their agenda. … Scientific evidence is a tough thing for the American public to handle, and the government knows it. The government can rely on people dismissing things that they cannot understand as “conspiracy theory." … For six years the Bush regime has been able to count on the ignorant and naive American public to believe whatever tale that is told them. American gullibility has yet to fail the Bush regime. The government has an endless number of conspiracy theories, but only people who question the government’s conspiracies are derided for “having a conspiracy theory.” … Gentle reader, wise up. The entire world is laughing at you.” Article: August 14, 2006
“Most readers from whom I heard understand the difference between loyalty to country and loyalty to a government. They understand that to support a political party or a government that is destroying the US Constitution and America’s reputation in the world is, in fact, an act of treason. Therefore, I did not have to read the usual drivel about how doubting “our government” is un-American. … The only explanation known to science for the free fall collapse of a building, especially into its own footprint, is engineered demolition, which removes the supports for each floor of the building at split second intervals so that the debris from above meets no resistance on its fall. To call this explanation a “conspiracy theory” is to display the utmost total ignorance. Any physicist or engineer who maintains that buildings can “pancake” at free fall speed has obviously been bought and paid for or is a total incompetent fool. … How could government complicity be kept a secret? It can be kept a secret, because so many Americans are scientifically ignorant and emotionally weak. They are incapable of realizing the contradiction in the government’s claim that the WTC buildings “pancaked” at free fall speed, and they are emotionally incapable of confronting the evil of the Bush regime. … We know nothing about alleged suicide flyers led by M. Atta except what the government has told us, a government that has lied to us about everything else… … Americans who rely on the totally corrupt corporate media have no idea what is happening anywhere on earth, much less at home.” Article: August 16, 2006
“I guess the real story about 9/11 is about what the people are actually saying. I’ve gotten hundreds of emails in response to my columns and many of them talk about not getting the truth from the government or the media about what really happened at the World Trade Center. I know many qualified engineers and scientists have said the WTC collapsed from explosives. In fact, if you look at the manner in which it fell, you have to give their conclusions credibility.”
Article: June 22, 2005
“Many patriotic readers have written to me expressing their frustration that fact and common sense cannot gain a toehold in a debate guided by hysteria and disinformation. Other readers write that 9/11 shields Bush from accountability, They challenge me to explain why three World Trade Center buildings on one day collapsed into their own footprints at free fall speed, an event outside the laws of physics except under conditions of controlled demolition. They insist that there is no stopping war and a police state as long as the government's story on 9/11 remains unchallenged.”
Article: February 6, 2006
“The Bush administration is insane. If the American people do not decapitate it by demanding Bush's impeachment, the Bush administration will bring about Armageddon.” Article: August 15, 2005
“…I did go to Georgia Tech, and I did learn some physics, and I know enough physics to know that it is strictly impossible for buildings to collapse in their own footprint at freefall speed except under controlled demolitions. Those buildings did not come down the way the 9/11 report says. It’s strictly impossible. In fact it’s a total, the account of the 9/11 report in a total contradiction of the laws of physics.”
DIRECT MP3 LINK: February 7, 2006 - 60MB - 9/11 segment starts at 36:36
Daniel Ellsberg
Former American Military Analyst Employed by the RAND Corporation
Well Known for Leaking the “Pentagon Papers” During Vietnam War
"…we’re slipping toward, uh, in the direction of a police state, without a lot of resistance, which is what happened in Germany…"
Interviewer: “…have you had a chance to look at a lot of this information coming from America’s leading scholars, physicists, engineers, etc. who have taken a look now at 9-11 and are now not only questioning what might have happened on 9-11, but really being very direct…”
Ellsberg: “I have looked at a lot of that and I tell you, without going into it all, which would take a lot of time, I find some of it very implausible and other parts of it, quite solid. There’s no question in my mind, that there is enough evidence there to justify a very comprehensive and hard hitting investigation of a kind that we have not seen, with subpoenas, and general questioning of people, and release of a lot of documents. There’s no question that, uh… put it this way, that very serious questions have been raised about how much they knew beforehand and how much involvement there may have been. Is the administration capable, uh, humanly and psychologically, of engineering such a provocation? Yes. I would say that, I worked for such an administration myself... Johnson. President Johnson put destroyers in harm’s way in the Tonkin Gulf, not only once, but several times, with a lot of his people hoping that that would lead to a confrontation, and claiming that it had, and could have resulted in the loss of many lives in the course of it...”
AUDIO: July 2006 - 10 minute segment starts at 23:55
Article/Full Transcript
Ray McGovern
Retired CIA Intelligence Advisor to Reagan and George HW Bush
Founder of the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
Interviewer: “…what about our own governments, or someone in the government or a private group, staging some event and then claiming Iran has carried it out as a prelude to attacking Iran, or even once Iran is attacked, intelligence agencies launching something in Europe or the US, and then claiming Iran did that. Your take on that.”
McGovern: “Well Alex that’s altogether possible, it’s altogether possible. And I would say even probable because they would need some proximate cause, some casus belli to justify really unleashing things on Iran, and that would help of course. I would put very little past this crew. Their record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled.”
DIRECT MP3 LINK: May 29, 2006 - 13MB
Article/ Audio Clip
“The 9/11 [Commission] Report is a joke.”
VIDEO: July 2006
David Shayler
Former MI5 British Counter Intelligence Officer; Whistleblower
“… in the light of recent events like 9/11, the invasion of Afghanistan, the invasion of Iraq, I believe this was an example of what we refer to as false flag terrorism, where terrorist acts are carried out, but they are either funded or encouraged by the western intelligence agencies, but of course in public are blamed on organizations like Al Qaeda.
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It is therefore absolutely vital that we expose the lie of 9/11. And the time to do something is not in five years time. The time to do something is NOW. Because if we don’t act now, the very avenues of protest, the very right to protest, the rights to free speech, will be taken away from us, so there will be no conditions in which we can protest. And don’t even think this is simply an issue that you can ignore and live with yourself, because it’s not just affecting us, it’s going to affect our children.” Video Part 1 -- Video Part 2
Totnes Devon UK – June 25, 2006
David Shayler & Annie Machon & Ian Crane on 9/11
Video Part 1 -- Video Part 2
Zbigniew Brzezinski
National Security Advisor to President Carter from 1977 to 1981
“If there is another terrorist attack in the United States, you can bet your bottom dollar that there also will be immediate charges that Iran was responsible in order to generate public hysteria in favor of military action.”
Article: LA Times April 23, 2006
Robert Baer
Former CIA Case Officer
Interviewer: “Are you of the opinion that there was an aspect of 'inside job' to 9/11 within the U.S. government?”
Baer: “There is that possibility, the evidence points at it.”
Transcript/Audio - June 2006
Sibel Edmonds
FBI Translator; Fired FBI Whistleblower; reported security breaches to supervisors
Interviewer: "You wouldn't be surprised if elements or criminal elements or private contractors were involved in 9/11?"
Edmonds: "No, I wouldn't be surprised."
Interviewer: "So you wouldn't be surprised like many others, because of the evidence and the cover-up you've seen, if 9/11 was an inside job?"
Edmonds: "At this point, I'd have to say no, I wouldn't be surprised."
Interviewer: "Do you think the evidence is leaning towards that?"
Edmonds: "Well, again, considering the level of cover-up and the length at which they have gone to gag people and prevent information-- this information from coming out, I would say yes."
Article/Transcript - July 2006
Major General Albert Stubblebine III
Commanding General of the US Army Intelligence and Security Command 1981-1984
“One of my experiences in the army was being in charge on the army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the cold war. I measured pieces of soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon, and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon, and I said the plane does not fit in that hole. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What’s going on?”
VIDEO: Excerpt from film "One Nation Under Siege"
William Christison
Former CIA Analyst
“…After spending the better part of the last five years treating these theories with utmost skepticism, I have devoted serious time to actually studying them in recent months, and have also carefully watched several videos that are available on the subject. I have come to believe that significant parts of the 9/11 theories are true, and that therefore significant parts of the “official story” put out by the U.S. government and the 9/11 Commission are false. I now think there is persuasive evidence that the events of September did not unfold as the Bush administration and the 9/11 Commission would have us believe…”
Article: August 14, 2006
Michael Meacher
Member of British Parliament; Former Minister for the Environment
“[The 9/11 Commission Report] was a 580 page avoidance of any serious explanation…”
VIDEO
“This war on terrorism is bogus”
Article: London Guardian - September 6, 2003
Andreas Von Bulow
Former National Minister of Defense (Germany), Minister of Technology
“...I can only say, the official story is so inaccurate and far fetched that there must be a different one...”
VIDEO - (same video as Michael Meacher above)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
General Leonid Ivashov
Former Chief of Staff of the Russian Armed Forces
Former Chief of the Department for General Affairs in the Soviet Union's Ministry of Defense
Chief of the Military Cooperation Department at the Russian Federation's Ministry of Defense
“…terrorism is not something independent of world politics but simply an instrument, a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite. It is precisely this elite that constitutes the key element of world terrorism…
…The organizers of [the 9/11] attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order and who had the means necessary to finance the operation….
…Only secret services and their current chiefs… have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude…
…Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers or the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders. Thus, a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation…” Article: January 17, 2006
http://www.axisforpeace.net
April Gallop
Former Pentagon Administrative Specialist with Top Secret SCI Clearance
“At random times, there would be drill exercises utilizing an alarm for us to evacuate the building. Yet on that particular day no alarm. [This is] especially [odd] considering the fact of what had already taken place at the World Trade Center.”
Interviewer: “Do you have any theory about how a Boeing 757 could have hit such a secure building without any anti-aircraft defenses being activated or any warning alarms sounded?”
Gallop: “I have thought about this very question numerous times. And then I realized I needed to rephrase the question. The real question is what is the probability or likelihood that no anti-aircraft defense, warning alarms or additional security mechanism functioned on that particular day? And then we need to think how likely is it then there was a glitch in all the security mechanisms, anti-aircraft defense and warning alarms? You know, it takes a while to get around that building. And I remember being so disgusted at the frequency of random drill exercises taking place for us to evacuate the building. It seemed as if they always happened when I had to take care of certain things. Yet on September 11th, the day when our lives were threatened, not one alarm.”
Interviewer: “…I have heard that, as of 9/11, the anti-aircraft batteries were automated, in other words, that they would have automatically fired against any incoming aircraft that did not transmit the appropriate friend or foe signal. Is that true?”
Gallop: “Yes that is true. They are either to attempt to guide the incoming aircraft that has violated the airspace to a safe location to land. Making reasonable effort to guide it down. Or shoot it down.”
Interview - July 2006
George Nelson
Retired United States Air Force Col; Aircraft Crash Investigation Authority
“In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling”
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