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Ant10708 · #51

I think he means the fun loving Islamic fundalmentalists and the kooky far Christian right that believes gays are evil.

Immortal Goat · #52

That is one example, yes. But I am talking about intolerance in general. Religion sparks some of the most horrible intolerance of others, and that isn't what it is for.

Perndog · #53

I don't think you're the arbiter of what religion is and isn't for.

Anonymous · #54

God is dead, and not only that; he was very, very short.

Brandon · #55

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Originally Posted by Dr. Boogie

God is dead, and not only that; he was very, very short.

I'm really shocked nobody said that sooner in this thread.

Anonymous · #56

Me too. Let's see who gets it.

Spectre X · #57

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Gay people barely get into the media here.

Why? Because they act like everybody else acts here.

Over here they have parades where they purposefully act as different as possible from everybody else.

They have those here, once every year.

Gets just a tiny little blurb in the news, and that's it.

You bunch of pansies.

kellychaos · #58

:Sigh For the last time! Old Testament God is mean and New Testament God is nice.

Perndog · #59

I don't know about that.

The Old Testament God invented death.

But the New Testament God invented hell.

Seven Force · #60

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Originally Posted by Command Prompt

There is no proof that God is dead, or alive
Many people belive in God
Belief in God would requires faith, since there is no proof
Having faith in god means that God exists to you
If God exists to you, then he cannot be dead
Being dead would undermine the usefulness of being God

Therefore god is not dead

There you go fags, case closed.

I love Command Prompt.

ziggytrix · #61

Command Prompt · #62

Really? I pulled that out of first year philosophy and its full of errors.

Anyhow, heres more to chew on: How can God be alive or dead? Isn't mortality existant only in the plane of the human race? "God" represents different things to different people, but the common theme for what God is, is a being that clearly exists on a different level. Would "God" not represent a being that is not subject to the restrictions of the common man? He couldn't possibly be "dead" or "alive" in any terms that we could understand. If we could, then he wouldn't be "God"

However, the fact that we question his existance, doubt other's beliefs and different cultures interperet spirituality differently shows us that we all have free will, and we are free to take from it what we will

Maybe this concept is imparitive to the existance of God, and as long as we run with it he is not Dead.

Brandon · #63

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Originally Posted by Command Prompt

Anyhow, heres more to chew on: How can God be alive or dead? Isn't mortality existant only in the plane of the human race? "God" represents different things to different people, but the common theme for what God is, is a being that clearly exists on a different level. Would "God" not represent a being that is not subject to the restrictions of the common man? He couldn't possibly be "dead" or "alive" in any terms that we could understand. If we could, then he wouldn't be "God"

Even when Nietzshce said it, it was a figure of speech.

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However, the fact that we question his existance, doubt other's beliefs and different cultures interperet spirituality differently shows us that we all have free will, and we are free to take from it what we will.

How does that prove that we have free will?

Command Prompt · #64

Because if we didn't we wouldn't be able to question anything, we'd just accept it.

Helm · #65

No. The illusion of free will is uh, an illusion. You're stupid.

Seven Force · #66

Free will is obviously not an illusion.

Immortal Goat · #67

However, free will IS an illusion if you believe in the typical Christian beliefs. God knows everything. What you did. What you are doing. And what you WILL do. This means that everything is predestined, and free will does not exist. If god has a "divine plan", we have no real choices, just an illusion of choice.

Emu · #68

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Originally Posted by SevenForceIncUSA

Free will is obviously not an illusion.

OBVIOUSLY

Seven Force · #69

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Originally Posted by Immortal Goat

However, free will IS an illusion if you believe in the typical Christian beliefs. God knows everything. What you did. What you are doing. And what you WILL do. This means that everything is predestined, and free will does not exist. If god has a "divine plan", we have no real choices, just an illusion of choice.

Hmmmmm, good point, well made.

But, if that's true, then why try to win over souls to God? If they're predestined to go to hell, it's a waste of effort. If they belong to God, eventually someone else will win them over. Which is what I was, strangely enough, thinking about recently. The Bible (or God) wants us to save lost souls. Frankly, I think it's enough that I believe in Him, and am willing to follow his word, but I don't want to bug people about it, and condemn things in the world. Sure, they might be wrong, but who am I to point it out and judge?

I am sooo going to hell for saying that.

Anyway, I haven't been in the faith nor read the Bible in a long amount of time. Where does it say he knows what we will do? All I heard was that he has a record book of the stuff we've done (which if you don't believe in Jesus, ultimately doesn't matter). It seems that he might know some things, but not everything.

I don't know, maybe I should stop talking now... :/

Helm · #70

Perndog · #71

Command Prompt · #72

I bet Helm thinks that because he's hideous looking, he's somehow been granted superior intellect, as some kind of genetic counter-balance.

Unfortunatley, fat guys use the same concept to try and convince people that they're well-hung

The plausability of both is laughable at best