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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 10:38 AM        GLIB RECALL REDICTION
While Schwarzenewhatisis will clearly have won, the YES/NO on recall itself will be well within the statistical margin of error. The apparent loosing side will demand a recount. The apparent winning side will sue to stop it.

With no clear outcome Gray Davis will inist he is Governor pending a decision. Shawarczennigeret will sue to aaume the governors mansion until a decision is made. Gray will cuntersue.

California will tumble into a political Limbo which will have to be decided by the supreme court. The exact same split that issued a riuling in Bush V. Gore will give Arnold Governorship, but not before there hve been multiple riots.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 10:44 AM       
Shortly thereafter, Ahnold will plunge the state into an irreparable deficit, and the state of California will be purchased by Microsoft.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 10:54 AM       
This confuse anyone?

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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 11:26 AM       
I would so vote for the sumo wrestler.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 12:05 PM       
This is only the first page of the ballot, I can't find any of the others. I'd be torn between voting for Michael Jackson and Brooke Adams, becuase they both have celebrity names but are not the celebrities themselves.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 02:22 PM       
People have to find their candidate among 135 randomized names. There's no way this can't fail.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 04:19 PM       
Why the hell is Ken Kamidi listed when the major Libertarian candidate is Ned Roscoe?

BTW, I think it would be hilarious if he were elected. It's not that hard to imagine, either, considering that one of California's cities has the highest percentage of Libertarians in the country...

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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 04:25 PM       
That page is only page one of the ballot. I don't even know how many pages long it is. The order of candidates was randomized by first letter, then that order was rotated by one letter for each county.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 04:30 PM       
Why didn't they do something simplistic, like, you know, put them in alphabetical order?
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 04:32 PM       
Screw Arnold. Sumo for governor!
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 05:10 PM       
Because statistical analysis shows a large number of people always vote for the first name on the list. It's the same reason your yellow pages is filled with AAA plumbers and electricians.

That's why they randomize and rotate. Just like me.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 05:42 PM       
Angelyne the "entertainer" is obviously a stripper. She gets my vote.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 05:50 PM       
I'm a Garry Coleman man, myself.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 06:24 PM       
I voted for Jesus.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 07:19 PM        Damn
STOP MAKING FUN OF MY STATE AND THE VERY IMPORTANT CANDIDATES ON THIS WELL DESIGNED BALLOT.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 07:19 PM       
I didn't vote because I'm a rebel.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 09:21 PM       
I could be wrong, but didn't Arnold win?
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 09:39 PM       
According to exit polls, yes. Actual precinct reports? Not yet.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 09:46 PM       
When it is announced that Arnie has won, I will watch my Terminator Special Edition DVD in celebration.
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Old Oct 7th, 2003, 11:33 PM       
Start watching it, AChimp. Start watching it.

He won by a landslide!
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Old Oct 8th, 2003, 02:23 AM       
SEE MY SWEATY MUSCLES! LOOK AT DEM, YOU WILL LOOK AT DEM YOU LITTLE PEOPLE! I AM DE GUVNUH!
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Old Oct 8th, 2003, 04:26 AM       
I voted for Tom McClintock.

Fuck everyone in California who voted for Arnold because they thought he'd win. We're not fucking gambling on political predictions, there's no fucking payoff for picking the "winning" man, we're supposed to be making sure our individual voices are heard, and from the cacophany of multiplicity an answer should be found which best represents what is most acceptable to all. Fuck this state, and fuck this entire fucking nation.

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Old Oct 8th, 2003, 12:51 PM       
I didn't vote, because I don't live in California. thx
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Old Oct 8th, 2003, 01:43 PM       
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We're not fucking gambling on political predictions, there's no fucking payoff for picking the "winning" man, we're supposed to be making sure our individual voices are heard, and from the cacophany of multiplicity an answer should be found which best represents what is most acceptable to all.
That's a thing that puzzles me around presidential elections, when people feel like they have to vote either Republican or Democratic because their vote "doesn't matter" otherwise. It's as if they're saying they don't deserve democracy.
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Old Oct 8th, 2003, 03:26 PM       
I was (and still am) a big critic of this recall process, I personally just wish that it took more signatures for ballot access like in other states, and that they used an IRV system of voting to judge the winner (still probably would've been Arnold due to his popularity, but we'll never know).

However, I must admit that the results of this election are really interesting. They've put "the Left" into a bit of a frenzy. On one hand, the victory of Schwarzenegger looks like a victory for "the people," true populism at it's best (it was afterall one of the populists who pushed the recall process into effect in Cali.). On the other side, as Ror has pointed out, it sort of speaks poorly for democracy. In today's Boston Globe, Robert Kuttner stated that "...in a sense, Hiram Johnson had a point. If elected officials want to keep the confidence of voters, they had better get serious about addressing real problems...Unfortunately, Johnson's remedy is allowing disgusted voters to wreck democracy itself."

I'm glad Ror voted his conscience and voted for McClintock.

I do enjoy the slight conundrum this has created for the conservative ideologues in the Republican Party. People like the pill popper Rush Limbaugh supported McClintock, didn't they...? Schwarzenegger is a prime example of the conflict in two-party electoral politics today. On one hand, these parties are self-perpetuating bureacracies, where winning comes long before ideology or conviction. Schwarzenegger isn't the Christian Coalition/socially conservative type that wants to run the Party. He's more like the economic libertarian/socially liberal type, and he's a perfect fit, IMO, for any kind of Republican power in California (now whjether or not he has any real policy in mind is yet to be seen). Schwarzenegger can win votes, but he may not be "winning one for the team." He may in fact be changing the meaning of Republicanism in California, simultaneously expanding the party, while at the same time (in a sense) liberalizing it.
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