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Old Jan 11th, 2011, 12:45 AM       
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Also, I kinda wish they'd had more horror elements and less "LOVECRAFT IS FUCKING METAL!!!!", but even that's kinda minor.
I'm a huge Lovecraft fan, especially in Horror, but it's overplayed. It takes a really great writer to make Lovecraftian elements legitimately scary, and not just annoying.
Also, I've been wanting to play this for a while. Probably going to wait until it's cheaper at the local Gamestop.
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Old Jan 11th, 2011, 02:00 AM       
I'm not really familiar with Lovecraft. What is some of the stuff that is influenced by that in this game?

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Old Jan 12th, 2011, 02:14 AM       
The whole Dr. West-thing is Lovecraft, based on Reanimator (the Lovecraft story, not the movie) and combined with the Charles Dexter Ward-story, the the-world-is-ending-in-a-demonic-eclipse-thing at the end, some of the cross-dimensional ideas, the fleshy-ness of some enemies or locations...many things can be traced back to Lovecraft, though I´m sure he didn´t invent them, he just made them popular and still does to this day.
That´s all I can think of right now as I´m in a hurry...

And concerning scary...I think it´s hard to make anything that L. made really scary these days since his stories just aren´t scary, just mildly unsettling and very atmospheric but I agree that you can´t just throw that stuff into a game and expect it to be awesome. Most references got a smile out of me but not much more.
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Old Jan 12th, 2011, 03:00 AM       
Actually, that Call of Cthulhu game that came out a while ago was pretty damn creepy. It's just that a lot of metal bands kinda take a lot of Lovecraft names, stories, and imagery and put it into their stuff, usually with pretty lame results. This kinda did the same thing, though it wasn't all bad.

There's a couple parts where you see Cthulhu faces and shit like that. Also, West says Shub-Niggurath and Cthulhu at some point. Other than that, you're right.
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Old Jan 12th, 2011, 05:11 AM       
I need to rephrase that. The stories themselves are not scary but the situations the characters are in are. L´s "problem" is the way he tells his stories. I honestly wonder if anyone ever thought his stuff was scary, giving everything away in the first sentece every time...I mean I enjoy the hell out of the things he wrote (though I hardly ever read them in english, it´s a little too much for me in the evenings) but still, the stories themselves don´t hold much tension.
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Old Jan 12th, 2011, 02:26 PM       
It's more of a homage to Lovecraft rather than Splatterhouse taking the source material seriously. Also all these references were in the original storyline as well.
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Old Jan 12th, 2011, 03:33 PM       
Reading Lovecraft is more like "Whaaaaaat!?! Sucks for you dude."
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 03:34 AM       
To me, reading Lovecraft is like getting comfy in a huge leather armchair in front of a nice warm fireplace while there´s a thunderstorm tearing up the countryside outside my imaginitive mansion and watching some poor slob getting ripped apart by some otherworldly nightmare outside the window.
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 10:12 AM       
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It's more of a homage to Lovecraft rather than Splatterhouse taking the source material seriously. Also all these references were in the original storyline as well.
What? REFERENCES, maybe. I don't recall Cthulu's visage being seen in the background, nor did they flat out use the names and terms. Have you played the original games, even? The story was pretty thin in the first two, and the third was still pretty vague. Sacrifices and bringing in elder gods from outer dimensions is a lot more Lovecraftian than the dark stone and Jennifer turning into a monster after a boreworm fucks her up.

And yeah, no shit. My point was only that it's a pretty standard trope these days, and it might've been nice if it was less METAL LOVECRAFT WALLET CHAIN FUCK YEAH and more off-putting horror and ohmygodmyfamilyisdying.

Also, same here, Ox.

edit: I'm glad this game came out. I really am. I've been looking forward to it for yeeeears, and I think Boogie and I are probably the two biggest Splatterhouse fans on this forum, but I think it could've been a bit better. It's still really fun and worth getting, though. Just some minor nitpicks.
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 01:03 PM       
Lovecraft's works are something you have to kind of dwell on. It's not going to be scary at all if you just pick it up and read it, but if you make sure you're in the right mood, atmosphere, and zone for it, and let it dwell in the back of your mind for a while, it starts to get unsettling.
Also, his stories are incredibly descriptive; it feels like a chore to read if you don't get into it. I think that's one of the reasons there aren't many straight-up Lovecraftian games; you can't just throw Cthulhu into a game and expect it to be scary. It's all very psychological. Amnesia did it very well.
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 03:15 PM       
Yep. I think I read Dagon when I was all fucked up with the flu and nyquil, and it was awesome. It was the perfect thing to read at the time, and it's always stuck with me. The Temple is another great one.
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 03:20 PM       
My favorite is The Rats In The Walls. Dagon was also pretty awesome.
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Old Jan 13th, 2011, 03:21 PM       
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...and watching some poor slob getting ripped apart by some otherworldly nightmare outside the window.

Thats the "sucks for you dude." part.
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Old Jan 14th, 2011, 06:16 AM       
Yeah but I thought it deserved to be wrapped in nicer words, that´s all

Guess I should read or listen to Dexter Ward again, very good audiobook, read by "the german voice of Johnny Depp"...of course he speaks 5 other guys too like Christian Bale and shit...just because we only have like 10-15 decent voice actors here :D
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 03:33 AM       
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Lovecraft's works are something you have to kind of dwell on. It's not going to be scary at all if you just pick it up and read it, but if you make sure you're in the right mood, atmosphere, and zone for it, and let it dwell in the back of your mind for a while, it starts to get unsettling.
Also, his stories are incredibly descriptive
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 05:19 AM       
fckin loved that movie
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 05:48 AM       
What movie is that? The...blabla of madness?
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 07:56 AM       
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 10:29 AM       
Right, that one movie that I always forget to buy..."die Mächte des Wahnsinns" (the forces of insanity), as it´s called here. Thanks for reminding me, gotta order it somewhere...
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 11:48 AM       
Sam Neill is brilliant in it. I lub 'im.
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Old Jan 16th, 2011, 09:19 PM       
Yeah! Man, that movie was horrifying when I first saw it. That kid on the bike was what done me in, bros.
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Old Jan 17th, 2011, 03:29 AM       
i like how its funny and scary at the same time

HE WONT LET ME OUT MAN in a bill paxton voice
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Old Jan 22nd, 2011, 02:15 AM       
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What? REFERENCES, maybe. I don't recall Cthulu's visage being seen in the background, nor did they flat out use the names and terms. Have you played the original games, even? The story was pretty thin in the first two, and the third was still pretty vague. Sacrifices and bringing in elder gods from outer dimensions is a lot more Lovecraftian than the dark stone and Jennifer turning into a monster after a boreworm fucks her up.

And yeah, no shit. My point was only that it's a pretty standard trope these days, and it might've been nice if it was less METAL LOVECRAFT WALLET CHAIN FUCK YEAH and more off-putting horror and ohmygodmyfamilyisdying.

Also, same here, Ox.

edit: I'm glad this game came out. I really am. I've been looking forward to it for yeeeears, and I think Boogie and I are probably the two biggest Splatterhouse fans on this forum, but I think it could've been a bit better. It's still really fun and worth getting, though. Just some minor nitpicks.
Considering it all started at Dr. West's mansion I just assumed that everything had to be tied to some sort of Cthulhu-esque origins. I always thought some of the monster depictions were reminiscent of Lovecraftian horrors.
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