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TheCoolinator · #76

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

a grand total of 8 months

But let's not confuse the issue with facts, Pent. Let's talk about nebulous topics like "standard of living" "tent cities" and throw some big meaningless numbers out there for good measure. That's how you win arguments.

2008-2010+ is not a grand total of 8 months. The depression continues, countries are bankrupt, and hopefully regulation is on its way.

And that "big meaningless number" is in regards to the worthless derivative debts that have been dragging down the worlds economy since 2008.

Remember the bailout? Remember the tent cities? Remember the volatile drops in stock prices and market value?

1.5 QUADRILLION dollars worth of debts. Much more than anything we've seen in history.

I'll ask you and any other troglodyte who wishes to respond. Was there a 1.5 QUADRILLION dollars worth of speculative paper debt in any of the past depressions / recessions?

We are in a world depression of incalculable proportion. This is reality. Greece is on fire, Italy, ireland, portugal, and spain are ready to default, UK has heavy debts, Japan has been in a economic tailspin.

This is a WORLD DEPRESSION. You don't have to agree with me in the open but please do your research.

Brotherhood · #77

Heh, silly little child, there is no DEBT, there is no DEPRESSION, they’re all nothing but lies of the communist oligarch’s or consequences of their embezzlements.

You see, son, they can manipulate the economy all they want. By causing this “depression” you’re talking about, they are able to lower the public morale, causing fear, anxiousness and stress. When people start losing their hope, their minds are easier to “reprogram” by mind control, hypnosis and propaganda. This way, the communist oligarchs recruit new members. Why do you think that these “depressions” occur so regularly?

The most disgusting thing is that the communists are able to make people forget this reprogramming procedure, thus making these people “sleepers”. This means that they believe they are law abiding capitalist democrats, but can be “activated” by the communists to do their bidding.

You have much to learn, kid, but it is the TRUTH.

Pentegarn · #78

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

1.5 QUADRILLION dollars worth of debts. Much more than anything we've seen in history.

I'll ask you and any other troglodyte who wishes to respond. Was there a 1.5 QUADRILLION dollars worth of speculative paper debt in any of the past depressions / recessions?

I'll ask you, moron:

Where the hell was today's average income per household in those eras?

Where were the profits averaged yearly that today's companies make in those eras?

Where was the GDP of the hundreds of countries today in those eras?

The reason the 1.5 quadrillion you keep mentioning (over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over) exists is because there is a ton more money in the world than there was in those eras. The percentages of debt, poverty levels, and lack of rescources in those days were worse. The single number you keep spouting about is merely a reflection of the amount of money there is now. It means nothing in terms of employment, wealth per household percentages, cost of living percentages and the like. Why won't you address that? Why is it I keep answering you about why the numbers you post are not valid in context to inflation and you keep ignoring it? Face it, you are ignoring my replies because you have no answer of substance to counter them with.

Colonel Flagg · #79

Yo, Cornholio:

I obtained my data from historical records of inflation rates. The economy recently contracted for 8 months with a 1.1% annualized decline. (It's expanding again, and has been for the last 8 months.)

In the Great Depression which lasted 3½ years, the economy contracted at an annualized rate of 6.9%. For, and let me say this with emphasis ---

THREE AND A HALF FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!

I ask again, dipshit - which is worse? 8 months of a 1% contraction or 42 months of a 7% contraction?

[mockon] Do your research. [/mockoff]

Pentegarn · #80

But Colonel

1.5 quadrillion man!

Ayatollah · #81

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Originally Posted by Brotherhood

Heh, silly little child, there is no DEBT, there is no DEPRESSION, they’re all nothing but lies of the communist oligarch’s or consequences of their embezzlements.

You see, son, they can manipulate the economy all they want. By causing this “depression” you’re talking about, they are able to lower the public morale, causing fear, anxiousness and stress. When people start losing their hope, their minds are easier to “reprogram” by mind control, hypnosis and propaganda. This way, the communist oligarchs recruit new members. Why do you think that these “depressions” occur so regularly?

The most disgusting thing is that the communists are able to make people forget this reprogramming procedure, thus making these people “sleepers”. This means that they believe they are law abiding capitalist democrats, but can be “activated” by the communists to do their bidding.

You have much to learn, kid, but it is the TRUTH.

This is exactly what President Ahmedinejad tried to warn you American people about many time. Every time he is ridiculed and criticized. I have tried telling him that American people are lost cause but he is good hearted man who tries to save. You are all blind to your government pulling your strings.

Pentegarn · #82

Brotherhood · #83

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Originally Posted by Ayatollah

This is exactly what President Ahmedinejad tried to warn you American people about many time. Every time he is ridiculed and criticized. I have tried telling him that American people are lost cause but he is good hearted man who tries to save. You are all blind to your government pulling your strings.

Indeed, Mr. Ahmedinejad is one of the very few world leaders who are free from the chains of the communists. I don’t know why, but the communist oligarch’s have never been able to infiltrate into Iran, among few other countries. This naturally infuriates the communist oligarch’s and as act of hostility they have rationalized all kinds of sanctions against the poor people of Iran, and have programmed the masses to think of Iran as a source of evil.

Please do not lose your hope on us! There are still people fighting against the communists here in USA.

Long live the Resistance!

Dimnos · #84

Nice.

The Leader · #85

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I'll ask you and any other troglodyte who wishes to respond. Was there a 1.5 QUADRILLION dollars worth of speculative paper debt in any of the past depressions / recessions?

No, because inflation hadn't raised prices as much as it has now. You're saying that we are in a depression now worse than the great depression. This demonstrates a complete ignorance of history. I recommend that you do some research and listen to the blessed Ayatollah.

TheCoolinator · #86

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Originally Posted by Pentegarn

I'll ask you, moron:

Where the hell was today's average income per household in those eras?

Where were the profits averaged yearly that today's companies make in those eras?

Where was the GDP of the hundreds of countries today in those eras?

Nothing you say adds up to the amount of speculative debt the countries of the world are buried under at this point in history.

Do research on derivatives. This economy is being kept afloat artificially by bailout after bailout and now austerity for the masses....not for wallstreet who caused the depression......for you.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

I am wrong.

As stated above.......and this is common knowledge to the average American and European.....there has been MASSIVE amounts of bailouts throughout the investment sectors. Most of these investment houses and manufacturing industries are on a contant stream of life support from central banks.

Derivatives (Toxic assets, exotic instruments,) are dragging down the world economy little by little into this abyss. The 1000 point drop in 1 day was just the beginning, just today the DOW went below 10,000. This is a controlled contraction of the economy. It's not going to look exactly like the depressions of old. They are slowing pulling these nations (including ours) under the water.

Take off the glasses Colonel. It's time to look around at the rubble field.

1.5 Quadrillion dollars and counting of "Toxic instruments". Nothing in history.....counting inflation.....has ever seen this in the past.

Colonel Flagg · #87

Coolinator = Jonathan Clement. No one else could be this asinine.

Colonel Flagg · #88

I just realized - the only way he wins arguments is by altering quotations of what people say.

Is this an infractable offense - because if it isn't, it should be.

Tadao · #89

No no, 98 percent of the Mockers think this is how Philo should be.

Dimnos · #90

Just fight fire with fire Colonel.

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

When you guys get home and take off the shoes you have been wearing all day. Do you take a moment to sniff the inside? I do. The natural aroma of your feet is a good way to boost your immune system.

Tadao · #91

I find that when things are on fire, more fire makes it's increase in value.

Colonel Flagg · #92

^^^ Maybe I have to rethink my paradigm, then.

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Originally Posted by Tadao

No no, 98 percent of the Mockers think this is how Philo should be.

Count me in the 2% minority then.

(see above)

Colonel Flagg · #93

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Originally Posted by Dimnos

Just fight fire with fire Colonel.

SMELL IT!

(that was for Pent)

RaNkeri · #94

I admit I haven't really followed the economics lately, but after searching the internet for a while (in English and in Finnish), I wasn't able to find any articles, news clippings etc. that would call the current economical situation depression. They all referred it as recession.
Also according to many experts who's quotations I read that we are in recession and some people(

) are just over exaggerating by claiming that the world is in depression.

Dimnos · #95

A lot of those same experts will also say we are now out of the late 2000s recession. Or that we are at least coming out of it.

Colonel Flagg · #96

But all those so-called "experts" either went to school, or have years of experience studying economics and economic theory. They didn't watch any videos or read any op-ed pieces.

kahljorn · #97

L-shaped recession.

Pentegarn · #98

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Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Nothing you say adds up to the amount of speculative debt the countries of the world are buried under at this point in history.

Because you don't understand inflation, the economy, basic mathematics, how to dress yourself, how to talk to girls, how to win friends and influence people, magnets, medicine, nutrition, or anything else you have ever discussed with anyone anywhere ever. If you did we would not be having this discussion.