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Old Mar 13th, 2005, 08:51 PM        2-year-old shot by brother remains critical
2-year-old shot by brother remains critical
Officer says 4-year-old was angry after an argument and got a gun from his mother's purse
By ROBERT CROWE
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

A 2-year-old remained in critical condition today, a day after his 4-year-old brother shot him in the head in their southwest Houston home.
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The older boy shot his brother Saturday afternoon after an argument, but didn't seem to understand what he had done, police said Saturday.

"He's wondering where his brother is, and when his brother's coming back," said Sgt. Cameron Grysen of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division.

The 2-year-old was in critical condition at Ben Taub Hospital with a single gunshot wound to his temple.

"He's very critical," Grysen said late Saturday. "The next 72 hours are very vital because he's in a drug-induced coma right now."

The incident happened about 4:20 p.m. at a home in the 5500 block of Gatewood near South Post Oak Boulevard.

Grysen said the boys had been arguing when the 2-year-old threw a toy at his brother. While the mother thought the boys had returned to their room, they walked back to her room, where the older boy grabbed a loaded gun from his mother's purse.

"The 4-year-old was angry ... he went and got the gun, put it to his brother's head and shot the gun," Grysen said.

The bullet entered one of his temples before exiting the other side of his head. The sound of the gunshot alerted the mother to the incident. The woman had told police that she had the gun � a .32-caliber semiautomatic � in her possession to protect her family because of recently reported burglaries in the neighborhood.

It is not clear if the boys' father was home at the time, but police said he did go to the hospital.

The mother could face criminal charges of making a weapon available to a child, Grysen said, adding that Child Protective Services would also investigate the family.

CPS spokeswoman Estella Olguin said her agency had never been called to the home prior to Saturday. CPS case workers placed the 4-year-old with his grandmother pending the outcome of an investigation.

A CPS caseworker was expected to decide whether to allow the older brother to stay with his parents or place him in custody of family or CPS.

Grysen said the 4-year-old would not be charged with a crime. Under Texas law, children younger than 10 years old cannot be charged with a crime.

The mother told police that Saturday was the one day that she did not keep her gun secure.

"You got to be real careful with guns around children, and you can't be too careful keeping them secured," Grysen said.

Police are not sure whether the older boy understands the difference between real and toy guns.

"We really can't say with a 4-year-old," Grysen said. "It's very mind-boggling that this happened."

Residents of the modest neighborhood described the children and their parents as a happy family who often take walks with neighbors.

"All parents should be concerned about weapons laying in the home," said Yulanda Jordan, a neighbor.

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Old Mar 13th, 2005, 09:38 PM       
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 12:42 AM       
I find this story hilarious, because I'm a bastard like that.
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 05:50 AM       
Clearly, this is the fault of video games.
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 12:11 PM       
somebody press start, go to 'cure', knife out the bullet, disinfect the wound and sew it. Then save, close the ps2 and go have a beer.
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 12:17 PM       
I'll skip straight to the "go have a beer part".....
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 01:21 PM       
This is Resident Evil 4's fault.
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Old Mar 14th, 2005, 09:53 PM       
a 2 year old gets a gunshot wound from point-blank range to the head and he lives?

if the kid pulls through, he is to be feared...
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 03:28 PM        Re: 2-year-old shot by brother remains critical
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Grysen said the 4-year-old would not be charged with a crime. Under Texas law, children younger than 10 years old cannot be charged with a crime.
but you can rest assured that 10 years olds can get the death penalty with an 8 year stay of execution...
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 04:58 PM        Re: 2-year-old shot by brother remains critical
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The older boy shot his brother Saturday afternoon after an argument, but didn't seem to understand what he had done, police said Saturday.

"He's wondering where his brother is, and when his brother's coming back," said Sgt. Cameron Grysen of the Houston Police Department Homicide Division.

Police are not sure whether the older boy understands the difference between real and toy guns.
I find this very sad and true.

At the same time time, the kid did get the gun and shoot.

Original motivation? Knowledge of where the gun was? Knowledge of how to shoot? Hell, how did the whole concept of shooting enter the brain of a 4-year-old, much less how to perform the action?
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 07:44 PM       
Uh. Hi.
Loaded gun?
No safety?
I think these might fall under kelly's "Knowledge of how to shoot?" clause, but seriously, wtf? Don't you at least put a lock on your gun?

Not to get cliche or anything, but
"It's easier to child-proof your gun than bullet-proof your child."

Edit: actually, if the shooter was old enough to take the axe, this would probably be Darwinism at its best.
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 09:30 PM       
CRIME doesn't wait for you to take the safety off your gun!
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 09:39 PM       
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oh no guys! he was high!!!
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 10:13 PM       
no man everyone knows that if you're high it takes at least 3 minutes to aim a pistol
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Old Mar 15th, 2005, 10:24 PM       
The mother was high thats why she didn't secure the weapon she claims she normally does.
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Old Mar 16th, 2005, 05:08 PM       
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Loaded gun?
No safety?
I think these might fall under kelly's "Knowledge of how to shoot?" clause, but seriously, wtf? Don't you at least put a lock on your gun?

Not to get cliche or anything, but
"It's easier to child-proof your gun than bullet-proof your child."

Edit: actually, if the shooter was old enough to take the axe, this would probably be Darwinism at its best.
I'm not talking about availability/opportunity the blame of which undoubtedly falls on the mother. I'm talking about what leads a four-year-old ... A FOUR-YEAR-OLD ... from the thought "I'm angry, I know where mommy's gun is, I know the object of my anger and I will shoot 'it' in the head because that is an excellent kill zone." That's a lot for a four-year-old. Just sayin'

P.S. The inferred question being, "Waht the hell ELSE is going on in that home?!"
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Old Mar 16th, 2005, 07:46 PM       
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This is why I've always prefered .45s and up.
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P.S. The inferred question being, "Waht the hell ELSE is going on in that home?!"
Maybe they let the kids watch GI Joe? They always shot at each other in GI Joe but no one ever DIED. Kid wouldn't HAVE to be thinking about KILLING anyone.
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Old Mar 17th, 2005, 02:06 AM       
While everyone argues about how odd it is that a child would know how to fire a gun, I'm sitting back wondering how a 2 year old survived a shot through the head. What a little badass.
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I figure even at 4, a TV can teach a kid how a gun works. Which doesn't mean I blame TV, which I don't.
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Old Mar 17th, 2005, 05:22 AM       
remember that kid from falling down who knew how to work a rocket launcher? thats were this kid is heading
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Old Mar 17th, 2005, 09:04 PM       
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Uh. Hi.
Loaded gun?
No safety?
I think these might fall under kelly's "Knowledge of how to shoot?" clause, but seriously, wtf? Don't you at least put a lock on your gun?

Not to get cliche or anything, but
"It's easier to child-proof your gun than bullet-proof your child."

Edit: actually, if the shooter was old enough to take the axe, this would probably be Darwinism at its best.
I'm not talking about availability/opportunity the blame of which undoubtedly falls on the mother. I'm talking about what leads a four-year-old ... A FOUR-YEAR-OLD ... from the thought "I'm angry, I know where mommy's gun is, I know the object of my anger and I will shoot 'it' in the head because that is an excellent kill zone." That's a lot for a four-year-old. Just sayin'

P.S. The inferred question being, "Waht the hell ELSE is going on in that home?!"
Since when were small children peaceful or inherently good? Think about how poorly a 4 year old can control his emotions, and how excesively angry they get when they don't get what they want. I guess what I'm really getting at is that people (especially males) are born with more natural tendencies towards violence and generally anti-social behaviors than they are with morality or any kind of peacefulness.
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Old Mar 18th, 2005, 12:35 PM       
So you bash your brother in the head with a rock or a tonka truck. At that age you definitely shouldn't know where to find a firearm.
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Old Mar 20th, 2005, 01:16 AM       
I once heard of a six-year-old who tried repeatedly to get himself charged as an adult for pre-meditated murder.
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