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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 12:31 PM        1984/DPRK
There was a thread not long ago about Orwells 1984 relating to modern life (or something similar). I can't find it, but after having recently read 1984 I thought I would post this article on North Korean propaganda.

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...nda_lankov.htm

It's very long, but I found it interesting. The similarities are very disturbing.

Special note goes too:

The 'doublethink' of Lil Kim fighting the Japanese during WWII, while only being born in 1942.

The special party radios that are everywhere (I've heard elsewhere that one can turn them down but not off!)

And also the titles given to the Kims: “Great Leader of our Party and the People”, “Outstanding Leader of the international Communist and revolutionary movement”. Quite a mouthfull.




Who gave us the happiness of today?

It was given us by the party and the Leader.

Along the way pointed out by the Great Leader Marshall Kim Il Song,

we will march not sparing our lives!
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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 12:42 PM       
It should also be mentioned that Orwell was, himself, a socialist.

We need a new distopia book to discuss. Let's compare Brave New World to today; it's way closer.
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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 01:44 PM       
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It should also be mentioned that Orwell was, himself, a socialist.

We need a new distopia book to discuss. Let's compare Brave New World to today; it's way closer.
It should also be mentioned that you are a wiener.

It wasn't socialism that Orwell was against, dingus. What was called "Ingsoc," or "English Socialism" in the book is not the same thing, but in your haste to be contrary just for the sake of being contrary, you left that part out. It was Communism and Totalitarianism that Orwell despised. How about you try to add to the discussion rather than play your petty little game of intellectual one-upmanship?

I mean, really, Brave New World is soooooooo 1932.

I was the one who started that thread, Zhukov. That's some interesting stuff, there. I maintain we'll see something remarkably similar here in the next ten to twenty years. The technology is there, and so are the means to misuse it.
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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 01:50 PM       
Brave New World would be so much better than today. The consumerist drones are always happy instead of frustrated and agitated, there is no war, and individualists are allowed to live on islands. Wonderful.
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Old Dec 14th, 2003, 03:25 PM       
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 12:23 AM       
I thought I started that thread. Oh, well...
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 12:36 AM       
Don't they have sex all the time in BNW, too? At least, the TV version with Leonard Nimoy had that. And guys in skirts. :O
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 10:56 AM       
I think the Distopia most relevant and worthy of discussion is obvioulsy "Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome." Although it should be noted that Mel Gibson is himslef in favor of cage matches to the death.
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 11:25 AM       
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It should also be mentioned that Orwell was, himself, a socialist.
You are a bloody dickhead. It didn't need to be mentioned at all.
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Old Dec 15th, 2003, 01:11 PM       
How do you know that your government isn't totalitarian/communist, isn't spewing propaganda, 1984 style, and that North Korea is actually a democratic country. Simple. You don't know. I'm not saying this is or isn't the case. I'm just saying that

If that is the case, then that article is disinformation to make Americans think that their country is better than North Korea.

In 1984, the government waged eternal wars to distract the public from their horrible living conditions and to make them unquestioningly follow the government. The US government is waging 2 eternal wars, the war on drugs, and the war on terrorism. We don't know for sure if they are being waged to distract the public and make them give up their rights and blindly folow the government. However, it is possible that those 2 wars are being waged for those purposes.

I'm pretty sure this has all been said before in that other 1984 thread that people mentioned, so, whatever.
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