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Old Nov 16th, 2007, 01:14 AM        Young Muslims Not Oppressed, Just Lucky
I read a good article from a Muslim writer (Nirpal Dhaliwal) in Britain bemoaning the disillusioned views of young Muslims:
Jonathan Evans, head of MI5, says Muslim teenagers are being groomed for terrorism and that more should be done tackle its "root causes". But the biggest cause of Islamic extremism in Britain isn't the Iraq war or Palestine but the hypocrisy and delusional sense of oppression fostered by many young British Muslims.


Recently I saw Riz Ahmed, the Muslim star of the Channel 4 drama Britz, rapping at a BBC concert. Woolly-hatted, gesticulating like he was straight outta Compton, MC Riz wanted to look like a ghetto player rather than a nerdy Asian mummy's boy as he bewailed his oppression and the crimes of George W Bush. Trendy Asians nodded in solidarity while white hipsters gazed adoringly.


I asked my Pakistani companion how oppressed he'd been since 9/11. "Not at all," he replied. When I've asked other Muslims what their actual experience of oppression has been, the worst I've heard is "being looked at on the Tube"; yet some still compare their condition to that of Jews in 1930s Germany.
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It was good for someone to come out and say it: you're not oppressed and you're not the victim of any system. The notion that these young stars and even anybody is repressed by a system is a hypersensitive reaction founded on nothing.



It goes back to a liberal paranoia that inside every man on the street there is a white national socialist ready to surface -- every star is a death threat when needless to say, I am sure sometimes all people (even all of us who are part of the Vast Right Wing Christian Conspiracy) get stared at for one reason or another.


Read the rest of the article -- it was well put together.
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Old Nov 17th, 2007, 11:09 PM       
With as much perspective I can input as Asian Muslim Male within the ages of 18-25, I will admit that I haven't been discriminated at all since 9/11, and I know that there are tons upon tons of muslims that fall in the same demographic as me that think that because they get an extra pat down on at the airport that the jews and the illuminati are out to get them and that bush is urinating on a koran somewhere. In reality they're living there life in as much prosperity and comfort as any WASP.

Part of this is that teens will get discriminated anyways just because they're teens. I just assume that if anyone clenches they're purse tighter when sitting next to me on the train, it's because I haven't shaved in 4 days and I look like I'm from the Manson family or something, not my skin color. It's human nature to feel victimized, or want to feel victimized.

The other part is that as a muslim living in a post 9/11 world there is a level of prejudice. Just as soon as the first muslim congressman is inaugurated FOX runs stories questioning if he has ties to terrorism. Barack Obama goes to school in Indonesia and he gets accused of being a terrorist. Cat Stevens converts to Islam and isn't allowed to comeback into the United States because he's on the no-fly list for possibly being a terrorist. I'm sure you can try to justify all these reaction 3 ways to hell, but the way it looks to a muslim that is just minding his or her own business it kinda pisses you off, because of the McCarthyism feel it has to it.
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Old Nov 19th, 2007, 04:50 PM       
Thank you for the words. I was glad to read that things are going well for many Muslims because it would be terrible that our whole society would be adversely affected by 9/11 so as to close hospitality.

I can understand how perhaps there is some anxiety over us questioning Muslims so much.
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Old Nov 20th, 2007, 06:41 PM       
the irony being that nirpal dhaliwal made an entire career out of being 'victimised' by liz jones in her column.

it would be a mistake to presume that because nirpal is muslim he has any kind of privileged insight. after all, he does live in a world of his own. perhaps--rather than identifying that, yes, paranoid delusions about an oppressive, omnipresent power (like The West) help people (like young muslims) to structure a reality in which their powerlessness has a responsible, culpable agency--he should be asking why these people feel powerless in the first place. jonathan evans is perfectly correct to ask for a better understanding of the 'root causes' here, and it is a testament to nirpals ignorance that he thinks it is merely a fad.
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