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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 01:48 AM       
Well, it's nice to know that this isn't the only website I've found that thinks One More Day sucks...I was checking out the author comments of a webcomic I read and the remarks were "Uhm. Nothing much to add, I guess... oh, One More Day sucked. Yeah. That totally sucked.
That's news, right?"
Given that I'd just read this article the night before, I had to laugh (and share.) Makes me glad I don't read Spider-Man anymore...
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Old Jan 11th, 2008, 03:35 PM       
It's just typical of Marvel's never-say-die and never-think-things-through spirit!
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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 09:06 AM       
Great article!

I really agree on the idea that it's pushing more people away from Spider-Man, 'cause as awesome as some of the storylines have been, theres been too many stinkers to really get me into him, and One More Day, just confirms he's been screwed around with too much to be a great character.

Also, does anyone else think that what JQ is doing for Spidey is akin to what Joel Schumacher did for Batman?
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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 11:17 AM       
Wow, the Joel Schumacher thing is a good comparison. I hadn't even thought of that before!

And Max, I can only hope your take on things is how they really turn out, but it's occurred to me they could possibly use the whole "Skrull" thing to get out of this mess if they want to. Of course, they could have just said that either Peter or MJ had been a Skrull for a long time, possibly even as far back as the wedding (and thus it never really happened), but then that would mean that one of the two of them had been fucking a Skrull, so I guess Marvel didn't want to go there.
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Old Jan 12th, 2008, 09:30 PM       
Hi, long time reader, first time poster, blah.

I don't read comics alot and silly storylines like this are the reason why. Quesada's editorial decisions really reminds me of the numskulls that often run wrestling promotions. Parallels between Quesada and Vince Russo are easy to make.

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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 03:52 PM       
I read up a bit on this comic, and apparently that little blurb Mary Jane whispers into Mephisto's ear can be magnified, and Mary Jane says that she gets to remember everything.

Hopefully, this is the exit plan we all deserve.
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 04:14 PM       
With all that they've done to Spiderman, I'm willing to bet that at some point in the near future, Quesada is going to entertain the idea of bringing back Uncle Ben.
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 08:14 PM       
That would negate the need for Spider-Man to be responsible and thus the transformation from responsible married man to irresponsible single bachelor would be complete! Just think of the possible story lines, like Peter not using a condom and having to pay child support!
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Old Jan 13th, 2008, 09:18 PM       
Hey Yaanu, where'd you read that about the MJ word balloon? I'd love to see the source on that.
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Old Jan 14th, 2008, 12:01 AM       
At one point, GOD HIMSELF told Peter that it was Aunt May's time to die. Hell, even Aunt May told Peter it was time to let go.
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Old Jan 14th, 2008, 12:08 AM       
On the subject of Civil War aftermath, does Protoclown plan to do an article on World War Hulk?
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Old Jan 14th, 2008, 01:24 AM       
Long time reader, yadda-yadda.

I'm living in Russia and because of that I don't read many comics... I read 'em when I can get my hands on downloadable ones but that's just not the same. But still I surf around wikipedia when I have nothing to do and I'm aware a bit about the current events in both universes.

But this little number? Either Quesada wants spidey to be a self-absorbed nancy-emo boy or he never EVER had a girlfriend for longer than a month.

And, really, choosing Aunt May over MJ? Seriously?

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Old Jan 14th, 2008, 12:40 PM       
This has got the be the 2nd worst story line that marvel has ever churned out. I'll let you all guess what the first one is.
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Old Jan 14th, 2008, 11:55 PM       
Fuck you, Quesada!! You and your Civil War, House of M, World War Hulk BULLSHIT.

Just get Chris Claremont and Jim Lee back on X-Men (Uncanny or otherwise) and everything will be ok.....

Oh, and get Joe Kelly and Ed McGuinness back on Deadpool.....
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Old Jan 16th, 2008, 10:31 PM       
http://forums.comicbookresources.com...56#post6078021
Also http://www.insignis.net/images/whisper.png
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Old Jan 17th, 2008, 12:36 AM       
Hrmm...hard to make out, but the last word does look like it could be "everything". Thanks for linking that, Yaanu.
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Old Jan 18th, 2008, 05:44 PM       
Hey Protoclown! I just wanted to say (and have wanted to say for a long time) that I love your longbox articles. I'm not even a comic book fan (I'm vaguely aware of the Marvel and DC universes and the characters therein, but don't follow them or read comics) and I enjoy the articles a lot. You write them well in that someone as ignorant about the medium can understand and laugh along with your pain.
Please keep doing them, and pick up the Clone saga and Brand new day so we can see how bad they are through your pained eyes. Take one for the team!
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Old Jan 18th, 2008, 08:06 PM       
if you separate the whisper.png into red/green/blue channels the red channel definitely says "everything"
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Old Jan 19th, 2008, 01:38 PM       
Proto; In one of tgh stupider FF story lines, the Human torch was doing a skrull for a long time, and I think may have even married her. Of course, since he didn't know she was a skrull at the time, the m arriage wouldn't be a real marriage. But get this, when he was involved with her, he thought she was blind sculptress ALICIA MASTERS! So he's doing a skrull, but what he thinks he's doing is his best friends gal! I'll have to go look that up.
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Old Jan 19th, 2008, 08:37 PM       
I don't know if anyone here's seen "the Incredibles"...but there's a scene where the daughter says to the son: "The bad guys might be trying to destroy mom and dad...or worse..their marriage She was then promptly told that she was being stupid. Apparently Quesada disagreed.
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Old Feb 1st, 2008, 08:25 AM       
I for one wouldn't like to see Quesada hired by DC to work with Batman or Superman. But what really irks me is that although we know and love these comic book heroes like Captain America and Spidey, there comes a time in a hero's life where he or she must go down from their mighty throne, and be remembered in their death like the heroes of old (Beowulf is an example, read the Poem, I'm not referring to the movie). Trouble is, the corporate Necromancers that lurk in the editorial desks think that they can sacrifice quality to keep a character like Aunt May alive. Maybe Superman should have stayed dead, but then we wouldn't have had Superman: Birthright or Red Son.

Really good comics, like The Sandman are now finished in their story arcs, but they finished when they were supposed to. Morpheus didn't end up in crappy plotlines like Quesada cooked up. He died with honour.

I know a lot of Manga can be just as bad as American comics, but there are some really good Mangas like Yotsuba&! and Apollo's Song (this last one is a really sad, but really powerful Manga by the same guy who created Astro Boy. And it's only one volume, forsaking the commercialness of the Astro Boy franchise he had in the 50s and 60s).

Maybe it is time we see our heroes die for good. If the old ones never die, though the elderly need to be respected while they live, there comes a time, like Aunt May, when they have to/should go because their time is up, new heroes cannot rise up and challenge new evildoers.

Harry Potter 7 was special as an event because it meant no more Harry Potter. People cared because it was the last time they would ever see a new Potter, after that, they would have to let go and reflect on a hero that changed their lives. I'm taking a "printed word booky-book" approach to this, which is usually non-applicable to comics, but comics should be as good as the best that the most talented authors in the book world can offer, not this commercial "One More Day!" trash that as I called it before, is just Corporate Necromancy.
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Old Feb 1st, 2008, 06:37 PM       
Oooh, "Corporate Necromancy". I like that!
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Old Feb 28th, 2008, 09:18 PM       
In the final issue of Cable and Deadpool, even Deadpool makes light of Spider-Man having made a deal with Mephisto.
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