Safe Injection Facilities

[derrida]

"Our review suggests that SIFs target several public health problems that municipalities in North America may wish to consider, problems largely unaddressed by needle exchange, street-outreach, education campaigns, HIV counseling, and other conventional services. SIFs target injectors' use of public spaces to inject drugs in order to reduce the many risks associated with the practice. Compared to conventional services, SIFs provide greater opportunities for health workers to connect with injectors, and to move them into primary care, drug treatment, and other rehabilitation services. Finally, SIFs target the 'nuisance factor' of drug scenes -- the hazardous litter and intimidating presence of injectors congregating in city parks, public playgrounds and on street corners -- by offering them an alternative, supervised 'public' space. Our review also suggests that, for municipalities considering SIFs in order to address these problems, their implementation would not necessarily require any significant or fundamental changes in public policy or law: SIFs require the same working agreements with social service providers and the police that needle exchange, street-outreach, drug treatment and similar health programs for injectors already receive."

Broadhead, Robert S., Thomas Kerr, Jean-Paul C. Grund, and Frederick L. Altice, "Safer Injection Facilities in North America: Their Place in Public Policy and Health Initiatives," Journal of Drug Issues (Tallahassee, FL: Florida State University, Winter 2002), Vol. 32, No. 1, p. 347-8.

[Big Papa Goat]

It's actually a pretty good idea, I mean, besides the objections people will have to tax dollars going towards the facilitation of drug use. But people object to tax dollars going towards lots of things, they can deal with it.

[Womti]

at the shelter I stay at, they have free needle cleaning kits. :(

[Chojin]

I don't get how this is consistent with anti-drug laws. It's not legal for them to buy or have, but if they manage to get it back to BASE to use it, it's ok? Or do they have to run through a gauntlet of officers to get in or out?

[derrida]

Chojin, doses are administered by doctors in the facilities. SIFs are for people who are dope sick, not recreational users.

[Kulturkampf]

I vote:

No money to help drug addict scum. Let them go to charities or do it themselves.

You might say:

"But this will spread disease and lead to a more unsafe environment for these drug users."

I say:

They lead such sickening lifestyles and are so pathetic that they cannot even do basic things like 'not get AIDS.' For most people in N. America, if you said: "HEy, this weekend don't go otu and get AIDS, do not use heroin, and do not quit your job and start livign on the streets as a homeless vagrant."

They would laugh.

But there is a small amoutn of people in the world who are of such pathetic standards that they would actually fail at a simpel task like: "Don't use intraveinous drugs." "Don't get AIDS."

I say:

If you are that stupid, it would be better for us to let you die off in your world of disease and despair.

I have no sympathy for scum.

[Geggy]

Yeah I agree. Them scums shouldn't be helped at all. SIF is a waste of money. I hope the problem becomes so widespread it will get come to you in a big way so that drug addict scums beat you senselessly with their dead babies for change in your pocket every time you walk out so they can afford buy heroin. I hope they stab you in the arm with an used syringe after you've refused to cough up a buck and told them to "fuck off". I hope the needle sticking in your arm has full blown HIV so you can die a slow and painful death from AIDS with no one to help you, let alone leaving you to rot in the dark alley for the rats to nibble on you for snacks.

So why don't you fuck off and get aneurysm. Oh wait you're supposed to have a brain to have aneurysm. So scratch that. Why don't you just fuck off?

[Geggy]

Yeah I agree. Them scums shouldn't be helped at all. SIF is a waste of money. I hope the problem becomes so widespread it will get come to you in a big way so that drug addict scums beat you senselessly with their dead babies for change in your pocket every time you walk out so they can afford buy heroin. I hope they stab you in the arm with an used syringe after you've refused to cough up a buck and told them to "fuck off". I hope the needle sticking in your arm has full blown HIV so you can die a slow and painful death from AIDS with no one to help you, let alone leaving you to rot in the dark alley for the rats to nibble on you for snacks.

So why don't you fuck off and get aneurysm. Oh wait you're supposed to have a brain to have aneurysm. So scratch that. Why don't you just fuck off?

[Cosmo Electrolux]

I vote:

No money to help drug addict scum. Let them go to charities or do it themselves.

You might say:

"But this will spread disease and lead to a more unsafe environment for these drug users."

I say:

They lead such sickening lifestyles and are so pathetic that they cannot even do basic things like 'not get AIDS.' For most people in N. America, if you said: "HEy, this weekend don't go otu and get AIDS, do not use heroin, and do not quit your job and start livign on the streets as a homeless vagrant."

They would laugh.

But there is a small amoutn of people in the world who are of such pathetic standards that they would actually fail at a simpel task like: "Don't use intraveinous drugs." "Don't get AIDS."

I say:

If you are that stupid, it would be better for us to let you die off in your world of disease and despair.

I have no sympathy for scum.

You're scum.... scum of a different sort....but scum none the less.

[Dole]

There but for the grace of God go completey worthless fuckwits like Kiki.

Typical blinkered fucking moral-high ground wanker who could really do with paying a trip to planet earth at some point.

[Chojin]

So who else that doesn't share your narrow worldview should die, MeinKampfy? The public needs to know!

[Pharaoh]

How about smug, self-righteous, looney leftiist hippies, like you, Chojin?

[Emu]

Wow, you degraded into mindless insults faster than most. I'm impressed.

[Pharaoh]

I'm just trying to fit in and be like you guys, I'm trying to integrate.

[Chojin]

Man, is it POSSIBLE for you guys to lose an argument? I'm starting to think it's hopeless!

[Pharaoh]

It's possible, but not with you idiots.

[derrida]

If kk knew a little more about the world they'd realize that this approach actually costs less than the alternative.

kk you are from the suburbs and you listen to oi.

Your politics are more idealistic than all but the most unwashed of hippies. Your whole thing sounds like a huge romantic jerk off, esp. when you use words like "fight". Of course violent drug fiends and gangsters don't bother you. You live in the motherfucking suburbs where heroin users are middle class kids just like you. If you want to justify privilege try to be more opaque.

I have a question for you, kk: how much does it cost to convict and imprison the average drug dealer?

[Pharaoh]

Is Uijeongbu, Gyeonggi-do an American suburb?

[derrida]

No, it's a prosperous suburb of Seoul. Vagrants and drug dealers aren't usually allowed to roam military bases, anyway, which is where I assume kk lives, unless he's even more of a rich bitch than I thought and is in Korea to party or attend university.

Do you have a point or an argument or are you just fucking with me?

[Emu]

Because only America has suburbs, right

[Pharaoh]

Yes, why would a privileged rich bitch be stuck in a military base in Korea?

[Emu]

I have a better question that might answer that one: Why isn't he stationed in Iraq?

[Pharaoh]

Well why isn't every soldier stationed in Iraq, you dickhead?

[Dole]

give it time, they probably will be.

[derrida]

Yes, why would a privileged rich bitch be stuck in a military base in Korea?

Why am I not surprised that you are unaware of the fact that there are reasons for joining the military other than being poor?

PERHAPS HE JOINED THE MILITARY YOU UNSUFFERABLE SPED

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY OFFICE

[Chojin]

I keep thinking this thread is called 'Safe Injection Fatalities'

[Pharaoh]

Yes, why would a privileged rich bitch be stuck in a military base in Korea?

Why am I not surprised that you are unaware of the fact that there are reasons for joining the military other than being poor?

PERHAPS HE JOINED THE MILITARY YOU UNSUFFERABLE SPED

GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY OFFICE

Of course, it's a nice luxury holiday for him isn't it.

I live in the centre of a city with more overdoses and fatalities per head of population than anywhere else in Britain. Heroin overdoses are the leading cause of death among men aged 20 to 44 here. I see them every day and they make me sick. I wouldn't give them a penny and I don't want a penny of my taxes going to them either. When I see them sat begging for money with their mouths hanging open I just want to stick my boot in it.
:boot :boohoo

[Kulturkampf]

Yeah I agree. Them scums shouldn't be helped at all. SIF is a waste of money. I hope the problem becomes so widespread it will get come to you in a big way so that drug addict scums beat you senselessly with their dead babies for change in your pocket every time you walk out so they can afford buy heroin. I hope they stab you in the arm with an used syringe after you've refused to cough up a buck and told them to "fuck off". I hope the needle sticking in your arm has full blown HIV so you can die a slow and painful death from AIDS with no one to help you, let alone leaving you to rot in the dark alley for the rats to nibble on you for snacks.

So why don't you fuck off and get aneurysm. Oh wait you're supposed to have a brain to have aneurysm. So scratch that. Why don't you just fuck off?

I intend to get a concealed weapon permit and carry a pistol with me, and if I have any amount of reaction time I will use it with lethal force and extreme prejudice against anyone attacks me.

Also, if I see oen of these nutjobs attacking someone else, I will also use deadly force against them -- and proudly so.

I do not give my money to scum, and I do not want my government to do it for me.

[Kulturkampf]

So who else that doesn't share your narrow worldview should die, MeinKampfy? The public needs to know!

No, I would rather they didn't die; I would be perfectly contnet for everyone to live provide they leave me alone, and I generally would like to communicate the idea that:

I have no sympathy for people who destroy themselves, and make those very choices as opposed to working for osmething more.

How is this suggesting death wishes towards them?

[glowbelly]

you have no empathy.

[Dole]

I intend to get a concealed weapon permit and carry a pistol with me, and if I have any amount of reaction time I will use it with lethal force and extreme prejudice against anyone attacks me.

You tragic little turd. You're not in a Chuck Norris movie, believe it or not. I hope a bunch of crackheads skin you alive.

[derrida]

Of course, it's a nice luxury holiday for him isn't it.

I live in the centre of a city with more overdoses and fatalities per head of population than anywhere else in Britain. Heroin overdoses are the leading cause of death among men aged 20 to 44 here. I see them every day and they make me sick. I wouldn't give them a penny and I don't want a penny of my taxes going to them either. When I see them sat begging for money with their mouths hanging open I just want to stick my boot in it.

Yet you have no problem with your taxes paying for a drug war that has failed by every possible objective measure, making gangsters rich in the process? Besides the fact that you commie brits have to pay for medical attention when people inject cement dust into their arms.

You judge politics based on how they make you feel.

[Dole]

Of course, it's a nice luxury holiday for him isn't it.

I live in the centre of a city with more overdoses and fatalities per head of population than anywhere else in Britain. Heroin overdoses are the leading cause of death among men aged 20 to 44 here. I see them every day and they make me sick. I wouldn't give them a penny and I don't want a penny of my taxes going to them either. When I see them sat begging for money with their mouths hanging open I just want to stick my boot in it.

Fuck off back to London then, eh? Do it today.

[MLE]

You're scum.... scum of a different sort....but scum none the less.

cosmo, the problem with him is that he isn't going to off himself anytime soon.