2009 NFL Season

[Colonel Flagg]

It's training camp, I know, but the season is almost upon us....

According to the blogs, Jeremy Maclin finally signed a 5 year deal, so he'll make it to camp only about 8 days late. :\ This completes their rookie signings. Woot.

How are your teams doing with the '09 draft class?

[Geggy]

I don't usually follow nfl during the offseason and I have no idea about the 09 draft players but I'm excited for the patriots now that tom brady is back. I'm also interested in seeing how the cinncinnati bengals will do this year. Cinco or whatever his name is went through transformation and he seems confident (and cocky) that his team will make it to the playoffs. It would be hilarious if the complete opposite has happened.

[Pentegarn]

I am cautiously optimistic about the Browns having a new coach (face it, after Crennel anything would be an improvement)

[Colonel Flagg]

"Romeo is Bleeding" :lol (I kill me.)

[Pentegarn]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=dw-michaelcrabtree080609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

There are no words....

When are they going to outlaw stupidity?

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

:lol What'll be even worse about that is he gets something out of it.

[Colonel Flagg]

Forget making stupidity illegal, it should be effing PAINFUL!

[El Blanco]

Tell Crabtree I am ranking him higher than any other rookie in my fantasy league. That's right, I'm saying he should get #1 over all type money.

[Colonel Flagg]

He's gonna be waiting a loooooong time for that first paycheck, methinks.

[Pentegarn]

God I hope so. Just once, for a change, let's see an overinflated sense of entitlement get punished rather than rewarded.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I guess someone spotted Michael Vick at the Buffalo airport heading toward Rochester, NY(Bills training camp)

[Colonel Flagg]

Wouldn't that be something? Vick and TO on the same squad.

The mind reels .... :faint

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I've been predicting this for some time now. We're going to bust O.J on weekends and bring back Scott Norward. Bad News Bills for the win.

[Colonel Flagg]

Holy fucking shit. Jesus Mary and Joseph. Hell hath done FROZE OVER!!.

MICHAEL VICK IS AN EAGLE!!!!!!!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4397938

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Just read the news. Hopefully he fits in well with the Eagles. Football is going to be mighty entertaining this year.

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Vick_0.jpg

[El Blanco]

Great. A backup QB that can start playing around week 6.

So, how about a second RB or maybe a veteran wideout, or a little more help for the defense?

Nope.

[Pentegarn]

And the Eagles officially declare (without saying it directly) they plan to run the Wildcat offense :P

Honestly I thought he would play for Minnesota or Green Bay

[Pentegarn]

oops double post sorry

[Colonel Flagg]

Bad press .... here in Philly the ASPCA advocates are spitting nails, and a recent unscientific radio poll indicates that 70% of listeners think this was a bad idea.

Maybe not so much ... now the entire Philadelphia sports world is focused on Vick and the Eagles, where before, Rick Pitino and the Phillies were the hot topics of conversation.

This might be brilliant, in a "reality show" kind of way.

[Tadao]

Shit, I'm happy he got any punishment at all. Sometimes excessive lynching makes the cause look bad.

[Colonel Flagg]

In this singular case, the punishment may have worked. He had everything ... then had it all taken away, (even filing for bankruptcy protection) before the age of 30. So who knows, maybe he'll turn himself around.

We'll see .....

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Maybe Vick can get a reality tv show on VH1 too. Then him and T.O. can get a power hour. We'll then have to sneak into the back of scenes on each show and it will be "almost" like we actually hung out.

I might need sleep.

[MattJack]

Well Andy Reid already has two sons that are felons, so it makes sense to me in a way.

[Pentegarn]

I wonder what the heck else the people yelling about Vick want.

He served significant time, lost millions of dollars, and more than likely nobody will ever give him an endorsement again. Karma already kicked this guy's ass up one side and down the other and people still feel he is somehow getting over.

I guess they won't be happy unless he is living in a gutter and it is on TV for their amusement.

What he did was horrible, yes. But he was tried, convicted, and served the sentence our justice system set for him. He paid his debt and he owes nothing else. Not to me, not to PETA, not to the ASPCA, not to anyone.

[Colonel Flagg]

My head is with you, PG; my heart is with the animal-lovers. But when football season starts, I'll be cheering for the Eagles like the rest of the marching morons. That's football. :\

BTW, love the new avatar. "Have you tried the new Wiener Pork? It's Super Duty!"

@MJ - Yes, that's my take too - Reid can't afford to split hairs with "character" when he's got some "characters" of his own to deal with.

[Tadao]

Yeah Pent, that's what I mean. I think he got off lighter than I would like, I want to see him get mauled to death by 12 attack dogs, but if we don't accept that he was punished and is now free to start again, then it diminished the fact that we got any recourse at all and people will say "Why bother? The animal rights group will never be satisfied anyways".

[Pentegarn]

Yeah Pent, that's what I mean. I think he got off lighter than I would like, I want to see him get mauled to death by 12 attack dogs, but if we don't accept that he was punished and is now free to start again, then it diminished the fact that we got any recourse at all and people will say "Why bother? The animal rights group will never be satisfied anyways".

Too bad more people can't think that rationally Tadeo.

[Pentegarn]

Another argument I am hearing is, "he isn't genuinely sorry. He only regrets what happened because of all that he lost"

Well, yeah. We call that punishment, it's how we teach right from wrong. If the lesson sinks in, who really should care if he is 'genuinely sorry'? As long as he doesn't do it again then mission accomplished. Results are what matters, and in this case the desired results are teaching Vick that animal cruelty is not tolerated. I think he learned this.

Let's put it this way, does anyone complaining know how to go back in time and stop Vick from hurting dogs in the first place? No, you can't change the past you can only change the future.

[Colonel Flagg]

Another argument I am hearing is, "he isn't genuinely sorry. He only regrets what happened because of all that he lost"


ONYA MATE!

Does anyone really think that ANYONE would be truly sorry for something heinous they had done if they never got caught? This is what "second chances" are about, people! Get over it. He paid his dues, he got conditionally reinstated, the Eagles took a flyer on him (I'm still in shock, I admit it) and he's promised to work with the Humane Society to address the horrible problem we have in Philly with dogfighting.

If he begins to save a few animals from death and destruction, I'm thinking his transformation will be de facto complete.

And the latest poll suggests Philly fans are pretty much split down the middle as to whether this is a good thing for the Eagles. The pendulum is already starting to swing the other way.

[El Blanco]

Thay got him cheap and can experiment with him. It isn't a bad deal. I just don't see too much coming out of it. The Wild Cat was just a gimmick. It's not that its so new and innovative defensive coordinators have no answer. It is more of a case of it being so high school no one at first was prepared for it.

No defense in the NFC East is going to get beat by it.

[Colonel Flagg]

Anything that can give the Eagles a new look from inside the 20 is a good thing. They're PATHETIC in the red zone.

[Pentegarn]

The Wildcat is not unanswerable, I'll grant you that.

But Vick is if nothing else another weapon in the Eagles arsenal. He can catch, he can run, he can throw. You put him in the backfield and the defense has to guess if he will run it, be part of a flea flicker, be a threat as a receiver, or a decoy while someone else becomes open from the eyes on Vick. This move has serious offensive potential for the Eagles. I think it was a shrewed move and worth this temporary PR hit they will take. If it pays off, the PR will cease to matter because everyone forgives a hefty number in the W column.

[Colonel Flagg]

Hey, let's get Michael Vick off the effing front page already!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4406963

Anybody seen WhiteRat? :D

EDIT: Maybe he just likes unretiring (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-favre050709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)? After all, this was posted only about 2 months ago. There's still time to retire, and unretire before the season starts.

{posted 6-18-09} Pretty much set in stone that Favre is going to the Vikings....

And once again, Pentagarn is right about Brett Favre. Time to bring back the old avatar.

[Pentegarn]

Apparently I am the Favre prognosticator.

For the record, I would rather have x-ray vision, or the ability to fly, heck I would take the lame Wonder Twin power where I can only change to forms of water or I would even rather be The Falcon :P

[Colonel Flagg]

Wonder Twins Powers: ACTIVATE!

Shape of ...... an Ewok!
Form of ...... a Lemon Slushee!

God, but these guys were so gay. And I'm gay for KNOWING about them! :(

[Colonel Flagg]

Seriously, though, where's WhiteRat? Still wearin' those army shoes? :confused

[Command Prompt]

As an Eagles fan, and a dog lover, I am very conflicted about this.

On the one had, its sad to see such a piece of shit once again becoming rich, when he really doesn't give a fuck about what he did

On the other, realistically, I shouldn't give a shit about someone's private life, because it has little to do with football.

I mean, if I cared, thats like caring about Michael Jackson being a pedophile. In theory, I shouldn't give a shit about where the music comes from, just as long as it sounds good.

[Pentegarn]

On the one had, its sad to see such a piece of shit once again becoming rich, when he really doesn't give a fuck about what he did

As long as he doesn't do it again, then the punishment did what it was supposed to do.

Thing is, we really don't know what he is thinking. Could be that after hearing from people who were outraged he did come to regret the pain he caused his fans. Just as possible he deep down isn't sorry at all about anything other than he got caught. Only Michael Vick and the Almighty will ever know for sure. What matters at this point is he is donating time and money toward saving animals, and regardless about his true feelings about what he did, this money and time will be effective in helping dogs.




But enough about that, Plaxico Burress says he didn't know he shot himself

http://www.canada.com/Burress+said+didn+know+shot+himself/1927318/story.html

I have fired a .40 caliber Glock. I can assure you that sound alone will tell you when you fire a Glock, not to mention the kick it has, in addition to the fact that you will notice something when the bullet pierces your skin. Moreover, you have to try to fire a Glock because of the trigger safety, so his claims that he accidentally fired while he was getting it out of his pants is dubious. More likely, he was playing with the gun and it did what guns do to stupid gun owners.

[Colonel Flagg]

If you're really pissed off about Vick's reinstatement, don't get mad at the Eagles; go out and adopt a shelter dog or cat. Put your collective money and time and energy where your mouth is and rail against the abuse of innocent animals with a tangible response rather than empty rhetoric.

Just sayin.

@Pentegarn - You'd think the fact that he could no longer walk would have been a giveaway? :dunce

[El Blanco]

Am I the only one eagerly anticipating Dante Stallworth's return to the league? Will he get the same hoopla as Vick?

Let's be honest, the real reason he went to jail wasn't animal cruelty, it was tax evasion. No one would have heard about this if the IRS got their cut.

[WhiteRat]

Seriously, though, where's WhiteRat? Still wearin' those army shoes? :confused

I'm still around, just haven't really felt like checking out the ol' Mockery site a whole lot these days. I'm also trying to fend off the Favre Mania pandemic here in Minnesota. I've also been spending my time away from the site by gearing up for this brand spankin' new beauty, which I have season tickets for:
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q15/JerkDouglas/MHYCLLZKWZOOOMP20090812143840.jpg

It's almost mind-boggling to see and hear the pure Favre ball licking that people are giving him. One of the news stations even did their entire newscast from outside the ToiletDome before the preseason game last week.

I don't think he's going to give us an automatic Super Bowl, as there are just too many questions floating around him. Will his shoulder and or bicep hold up? Can he keep taking hits? Is the drive to win still strong?

I'm happy to have him, if not for the upgrade at the QB position, but for the pants shitting that is going on over in Wisconsin. It's hilarious. They are even talking about donating Favre Packer jerseys to the homeless.

The Lord and Saviour of Sconnie has betrayed them and I'm enjoying every minute of it.

[WhiteRat]

Brandon Marshall is acting much worse than TO ever has. Fuckin' pussy!

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/video/20590420/index.html

[Colonel Flagg]

Now whoever said some NFL players were pampered babies who acted petulant and defiant when they didn't get exactly what they wanted?

Oh, wait ...

[Pentegarn]

Too bad for Marshall. A few thoughts regarding him

1) You're stuck in your contract, if you flop in protest, that will be what every team remembers come new contract time.

2) I have heard Marshall threaten to refuse to learn the new offensive system, Big deal, right now Denver's offensive system is for Kyle Orton to throw it to the other team so Marshall doesn't really have anything to remember:lol

[WhiteRat]

I heard today that he got suspended.

[Colonel Flagg]

I hope he goes and does a few pushups in his driveway.

[Pentegarn]

I watched the Pats and the Skins play last night pre season, was a pretty good game. Or I really missed football and anything is good to me that is football right now.

[Pentegarn]

Can we please do something about this spammer?

[Colonel Flagg]

It won't last long .... I hope.

[adooo]

:pwho here thinks brett favre should play, i think he should just retire

[WhiteRat]

I was very impressed with Favre last night but not so impressed at the staff for splitting him wide and using him as a blocker. Dude is 40, has a bad shoulder and a possible cracked rib, and he's out throwing blocks? C'mon Chilly, get yo mind right.

[Colonel Flagg]

I was very impressed with Favre last night but not so impressed at the staff for splitting him wide and using him as a blocker. Dude is 40, has a bad shoulder and a possible cracked rib, and he's out throwing blocks? C'mon Chilly, get yo mind right.

Maybe so, but check out the post-game report on ESPN:

[Favre] drew a penalty for an illegal crackback block to the knee of Houston's Eugene Wilson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4494) when he lined up wide in the wildcat formation in the third quarter. Wilson was injured on the play, but said he'll be OK.

Favre said he wasn't out to hurt anyone and was simply trying to protect rookie Percy Harvin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12569), who took the snap.

"I will be 40 years old in October and [was] weed-eating 13 days ago," Favre said. "I wasn't thinking about throwing blocks."

Wilson said he hadn't spoken to Favre, but if he did he would ask him one thing.

"What was up with that?" Wilson said. "Seriously, what was up with that?"

Looks like the old guy still has it left in him. And, personally, I agree with Eugene - What the HELL was up with that, anyway? Drawing a penalty on an illegal block in pre-season? Methinks Mr. Favre is issuing a not-so-subtle statement to the rest of the league.

[WhiteRat]

I really doubt that a 40 year old favre is going to be deliberately throwing illegal blocks that could possibly injure someone. He basically said during the post game interview that he had to do something on the play and just hurled his body without really thinking.

[Colonel Flagg]

Maybe. At least the coming season in Minnesota will be an interesting one to watch. Especially when they play Green Bay. :)

[Pentegarn]

I think that whole division will be the greatest spectacle to watch this year. You have the Vikings who are so close they can taste it. Will Favre be the x factor that finally gets Minnesota the elusive Super Bowl? You have the Packers, with Aaron Rodgers who may not be saying it, but definitely wants a piece of Favre in regular season play. It will be the Super Bowl of hate when Minnesota plays Green Bay. And let's not forget the Bears, who are suddenly relevant again thanks largely to the new QB with a purpose, Cutler. Even the Lions, with their new QB and a running back who is promising a playoff appearance this year are now on my radar. It's all happening in the NFC North this year it seems.

[MattJack]

I don't know if this has been said yet, but I'll give it a go anyway.

FUCK BRETT FARVE

There I said it.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I was thinking about getting a Scott Norwood jersey for this year.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

[Colonel Flagg]

So, Mikey gets 2 weeks suspension. :wristslap

Your thoughts?

[Kitsa]

I love The Onion so very much.

tByP3Q-zTUw

[El Blanco]

I don't know if anyone noticed, but the regular season started last night.

I heard Mike and Mike on the radio this morning heaping praise on Big Ben for his two minute drill to help the Steelers and how he is "the best 4th quarter quarterback in the league".

Isn't that kind of a backhanded compliment though? I mean, if hadn't thrown two interceptions, underthrown his receivers several other times and forced the defense shut down the Titans, he wouldn't need that 2 minute drill.

[Colonel Flagg]

I love that comment "the best 4th quarter quarterback in football". What, you mean he sucks in the first three quarters? Yep, pretty much.

But he got the win, and in the end, that's all that counts.

[WhiteRat]

I love that comment "the best 4th quarter quarterback in football". What, you mean he sucks in the first three quarters? Yep, pretty much.

But he got the win, and in the end, that's all that counts.

I see it as when the game is on the line and time is running out (4th quarter, get it?) he steps up and delivers, regardless of what happened the previous 3 quarters.

[Pentegarn]

I love that comment "the best 4th quarter quarterback in football". What, you mean he sucks in the first three quarters? Yep, pretty much.

But he got the win, and in the end, that's all that counts.

That was the consensus on the radio today that I heard

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Not looking forward to the Monday night game coming up. :(

[El Blanco]

Hey, maybe Big Ben is the next Tommy Maddox! Remmeber him and his distinguished career? He did win a championship.

[WhiteRat]

Adrian Peterson is an absolute monster.

That is all.

[Kitsa]

The Green Bay game was funny as hell.

"Did I really see that?"

"I am dumbfounded."

"Lovie's thrown the challenge flag..." "Maybe on his own call."

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I really thought the Bills would win tonight. At least the game was entertaining.

[Colonel Flagg]

And Jeff Garcia has a job.

Can you say "Quarterback Controversy"? I guess AR really wants the ring this time, whatever the cost.

About God Damned Time, too.

[El Blanco]

So, his answer to winning a championship is signing Jeff Garcia? well, it is Andy Reid. This is the guy that calls 40 passing plays a game and ignores the fact he has one of the best tailbacks in the league.

[Colonel Flagg]

He actually ran the ball more than he passed it against Carolina, but as Carolina played like a High School JV Squad, I'm guessing this isn't a good barometer. Let's see what happens against Brees and the Saints.

[WhiteRat]

The plan for McNabb to end up in Minnesota next year is falling into place.

[Colonel Flagg]

And the latest in the Philadelphia soap opera .... Shawn Andrews, placed on IR.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4474988

He tweeted that he was "grateful to 'Big Red' for 'believing in me' and that he thought of him as the 'father figure [he] never had' and 'I love you, man'".

WTF.

The only reason he's happy is that he doesn't have to play football, and that he doesn't have to come up with any lame-ass excuses for the rest of the season. Dick.

Go back to making nonsensical rap videos, Shawn.

[Pentegarn]

Looks like we found something Eagle fan probably won't do Colonel

http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=1998177

So Eagle Fan has that, which is nice :P

[Colonel Flagg]

I saw this. I mean, yeah, he probably should have just taken a knee and let the offense take three runs and kick, but geez, that's harsh. :(

10K, you have any local spin on this incident?

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Actually yeah. I'm really proud to be where I'm from. Everyone acts like its a small town but actually its a decent sized city. Between 500,000 people there are only like 2-3 degrees of separation here.

I personally think he should have taken a knee but hindsight is always 20/20. McKelvin normally is really responsible with ballhandling but he really didn't deserve what happened to his lawn. They were able to find the kids:

http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=70327&catid=37

Both under the age of 18.

I've noticed we really do have some of the worst fans though. When our coach was Malarchuk a few years ago he actually left because people were calling and sending mail to his house saying they were going to kill/injure him and his family because of bad play calling. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

How lucky is Hank Baskett?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4480266

Never mind about his personal life (Kendra's stud-muffin) - he gets cut by the Eagles only to get signed by historically one of the most potent passing offenses in the NFL.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

GO BILLS!

[Colonel Flagg]

The Wildcat Formation don't mean squat if your not so special teams (or "Special" teams) make as many mistakes as the Eagles did against the Saints.

It looked good for Philly after one half, and then they had to come back out to play the rest of the game. Yuck. >:

[Colonel Flagg]

Michael Crabtree's head continues to grow uncontrollably. Regrettably the condition seems to be irreversible.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4491142

[El Blanco]

Someone needs to get some facts through his head:

1) Sitting out a year will not help his rating, even if he blows up in the combine. Ask Maurice Clarrette

2) There will be at least 4 other highly rated wideouts in next year's draft. They all will have been playing and none will have the stigma.

3) Next year will have a rookie salary cap

4) Most teams generally don't have "draft rusty, egotistical, inexperienced, high maintenance wide receiver" at the top of their to do list

[Colonel Flagg]

I want him to sit out the year. Teach all these egomaniacs a lesson in humility.

[Pentegarn]

4) Most teams generally don't have "draft rusty, egotistical, inexperienced, high maintenance wide receiver" at the top of their to do list

I must say, I am jealous I didn't think to say this first, good one El Blanco :lol

[MattJack]

Drew.Mother.Fu*king.Brees.

That is all.

[Pentegarn]

Drew.Mother.Fu*king.Brees.

That is all.

Drew Brees is a freaking beast.

I have said as much since his days at Purdue.

[El Blanco]

I had both him and Philip Rivers on my fantasy team last year.

Then, everyone else got on the band wagon and I'm stuck with Kurt Warner this year in my money league.

[Colonel Flagg]

That sucks :( Warner would have been a good pick about 2-3 seasons ago.

[Pentegarn]

I know Ocho Cinco isn't everyones favorite, but his antics amuse me

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Chad-Ochocinco-planted-those-Bengals-fans-in-the?urn=nfl,191579

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

This almost beats TO and the pom-poms. And unlike TO (sharpie) and Horn (can you hear me now) this stunt isn't fine-worthy.

[Pentegarn]

:lol

This almost beats TO and the pom-poms. And unlike TO (sharpie) and Horn (can you hear me now) this stunt isn't fine-worthy.

That's what I like about Ocho Cinco, his antics are amusing, and usually not in violation of the rules. Sure he talks... a lot... but he almost always makes me laugh with his smack talk and on field antics.

[El Blanco]

I'm still waiting for him to bring Icky Woods in for an endzone dance.

I can actually forgive TO for the Sharpie thing. The ball he autographed went to his friend in Seattle that runs charity auctions. That was the guy he handed the ball to.

I'm just upset the NFL banned players from using social networks (Twitter, Facebook etc etc) during the game

[Pentegarn]

I can actually forgive TO for the Sharpie thing. The ball he autographed went to his friend in Seattle that runs charity auctions. That was the guy he handed the ball to.

Ah yes, the "Sign o' trouble" :lol

I gave TO a pass on that too I admit, in fact I laughed like an idiot for a week when he did it. He just gets way too pouty way too easily and that is when I get sick of him (it would help though if he could keep the sort of on field antics pace of a "sign o' trouble", but he never did anything near as funny after that)

[El Blanco]

How do you top it?

[Babs]

So since the Bengals got the best of the Steelers I'm ready for them to wipe the shit out of the Browns and leave no streaks.

[Pentegarn]

How do you top it?

TO couldn't, and therein lies his problem and why he never went on to be a master of antics. Too good too fast, then the cell phone call followup was just weak.

[Colonel Flagg]

And the Bronc's pull off the last-second victory, to go 4-0.

Yo. Jerry. How did that taste? :x

[El Blanco]

Who is the Cowboys' back up?

[Colonel Flagg]

QB? Gotta be Jon Kitna - I can't believe they'd have the rookie as their #2. You think Jerry is going to pull Romo's plug?

[Colonel Flagg]

So since the Bengals got the best of the Steelers I'm ready for them to wipe the shit out of the Browns and leave no streaks.

Can't say that a 3 point OT win is "wiping the s**t out of the Browns" but I'm sure you'll take it. :\

[Colonel Flagg]

So, what's Brett putting on his Wheaties these days? Jeez!

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Browns @ Bills this week. Babs you should trip up here.

[Colonel Flagg]

Someone needs to get some facts through his head:

1) Sitting out a year will not help his rating, even if he blows up in the combine. Ask Maurice Clarrette

2) There will be at least 4 other highly rated wideouts in next year's draft. They all will have been playing and none will have the stigma.

3) Next year will have a rookie salary cap

4) Most teams generally don't have "draft rusty, egotistical, inexperienced, high maintenance wide receiver" at the top of their to do list

Michael Crabtree's head continues to grow uncontrollably. Regrettably the condition seems to be irreversible.

And .... the 49ers cave. >:

http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/49ers.michael.crabtree.2.1233554.html

Oh the humanity.

[Tadao]

Does he fill stadiums?

[Colonel Flagg]

We'll have to see. He still hasn't even practiced for about a year (foot injury in college, then all that contract ugliness). He's good - that's the consensus opinion - but generally rookie wideouts have to get a year or two of seasoning before they really start producing. As he's at best a year behind his peers, he'll either need to be a really fast learner, or much more talented than even the most knowledgeable sports pundit could imagine.

[El Blanco]

Terrible deal for the 49ers. They had all the leverage. He was simply that damn stupid. they should have just traded his rights away.

[Babs]

Another bad ass victory for the bengals.

[Colonel Flagg]

And the Browns win their first of the season.

Did I say win? I meant that they didn't lose. :\

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Ugh, I went to the Browns vs Bills game. It was just agonizing.

[Pentegarn]

How bad off are the Bills if they lost to Cleveland?

[Colonel Flagg]

Heh, kind of like getting turned down by the ugliest girl at the bar. :x

[Pentegarn]

Naw, losing to the Browns is like getting turned down by your right hand

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

:tear....He's right you know.

Has anyone seen the UFL at all? They look like they're sponsored by BLITZ.

[Pentegarn]

I would like to see it. What with the AFL being shut down for the foreseeable future it would be nice to see a secondary league running.

[Colonel Flagg]

I actually dug Arena Football. As long as you aren't interested in defense. :\ It is what it is. Or rather was. :(

What exactly is this "UFL" of what you speak. I'm a little out of touch. Apparently.

(Not that that's surprising in any way ...)

[Pentegarn]

http://www.ufl-football.com/

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I think the UFL uniforms look like they should be on deodorant sticks.

[El Blanco]

Jim Fassel, Denny Greene and Al Groh all coach in it. Awesome?

[Pentegarn]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-fanbillboard&prov=ap&type=lgns

Thoughts 10k?

[Babs]

Nothing is better than the XFL you pussies.

All real football leagues fold in there first season, it's defacto.

[Geggy]

Patriots 59
Titans 0
End of 3rd

:)

[Babs]

and the Bengals lose to the texans

so disappointing

[MattJack]

Drew. Mother. Fucking. Brees.

Also the New England game was fu*king sick. Tennessee got their shit pushed in.

[Babs]

Correction, got their dick knocked in the cold dirt.

[Colonel Flagg]

And Oakland beats the Eagles. Jesus, we suck. :(

[george]

not as bad as the redskins :(

i am sick of a franchise i loved as a child suck balls. it has been since 1991 that this team has even tried to be good.

THEY LOST TO THE FUCKING CHIEFS :(

[Colonel Flagg]

So Bad and Worse meet next week. Film at 11. :(

EDIT: Actually, more like 1:00 AM Tuesday Morning. :\

[Pentegarn]

I am sad to see what has happened to the Jets, I liked their swagger and the results of said swagger (IE: The Pats win), but how the mighty have fallen.

Superbowl results this year

N.O. - 42
Denver - 7

[george]

it made me so happy to see NO roll the giants.

[Pentegarn]

Get used to it, I expect NO will roll just about everyone they play this year

[Colonel Flagg]

Well now. Parity reigns in the NFL, hey.

Green Bay 31, Cleveland 3
San Diego 37, Kansas City 7
Indianapolis 42, St. Louis 6
New England 35, Tampa Bay 7
New York Jets 38, Oakland 0
Cincinnati 45, Chicago 10

I never would have thought that I'd consider a 16 point loss by the Falcons to the Cowboys as a close game, but there you go. :\

[Pentegarn]

Minnesota 17
Pittsburgh 27

And then there were 3.

The amazing thing here; People are paying attention to Denver because on paper they do not look like an undefeated team would look, they are paying attention to NO because how can they not, but who is paying attention to the Colts? I have heard next to nothing about the colts and they are chugging away and beating everyone they play.

[Colonel Flagg]

How 'bout those Giants. How the mighty have fallen.

[george]

i can only hope that the giants lose to the redskins later this season. that is all i have to hope for :(

on the plus side my love for the cardinals goes on and NO is looking to be the underdog done good!!!!!

[Babs]

I hope the Bengals beat the Ravens and Steelers these next 2 games.

[Colonel Flagg]

You and me both, Babs.

Speaking of the Ravens, Where the "F" is Pac-man anyway? It's been nearly 9 months. :(

[Colonel Flagg]

Eagles 40, Giants 17

What the "F" was that, anyway? :shocked

[Pentegarn]

Denver (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/den;_ylt=AgXw5vcFEl5TirLdIme7PUxDubYF) 7
Baltimore (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/bal;_ylt=AuK66O0uNiMRj_KD3BI4ZSJDubYF) 30


And then there were 2

[george]

i now dont feel so bad about the skins losing to the eagles, maybe they are a really good team!!!

i hate the colts, and hate both the manning brothers.

i also hate the ravens, though now that i live neart baltimore it prolly isnt safe to say that out loud

[Pentegarn]

I hate the Ravens more than any other team in sports

[george]

black & purple!!!! and a raven pretty much sum it all up.

[Colonel Flagg]

Yo. PG! Can Mangina's head be far behind?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

[MattJack]

What a game!

Saints are still undefeated!

[Pentegarn]

Yo. PG! Can Mangina's head be far behind?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4616312

I got a text about this at midnight of the day it happened.

Mangini will pretty much have to get fired I think. Hopefully the new GM will be good at recruiting and trading of players. Start with a solid O-line. Then get the D-line and secondary straightened out. You get those things and you can get away with tier 2 talent everywhere else.

[El Blanco]

Thats what shitty organizations do. They make ass backwards decisions.

The Browns hire the head coach before the GM.

The Redskins hire the offensive coordinator before the head coach.

No one good will take a job where one of the guys who is supposed to be your subordinate has more tenure and more influence in the organization.

Is it any wonder both these teams consistently suck?

[Babs]

Bengals beat Ravens OH YEAH

[Colonel Flagg]

Giants get robbed by the Chargers. Or did they get mugged?

Geez, I thought they were good, too. :\

[Fathom Zero]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Chad-Ochocinco-tries-to-bribe-official-on-repl?urn=nfl,200914

Okay, he's an asshole. But I give him props; this is pretty hilarious. :lol

[Pentegarn]

If they fine the spectacular Ochocinco for that 'bribe' it will be rather insulting. I mean honestly, who thinks a single will bribe anyone? It was an obvious gag, and not at all intended to make refs look corrupt. That was not where Ochocinco was coming from. The whole 'maybe this will change your mind' and give em something insignificant is a classic gag.

I for one am glad to see the old fun loving Ochocinco back. The NFL is a better place with his shenanigans. The man is a freaking genius when it comes to on field antics when he is having fun.

[Colonel Flagg]

Yet that's just what I would expect the "No Fun League" to do - fine him. :(

[El Blanco]

Giants get robbed by the Chargers. Or did they get mugged?

Geez, I thought they were good, too. :\

I say it's the coaching. 100+ yards in penalties and some questionable play calling are bad signs. This team should actually be better than last season. They have the talent.

Coughlin is a big discipline guy, so the penalties should have never happened.

He's starting to look like a tiny Andy Reid out there.

[El Blanco]

If they fine the spectacular Ochocinco for that 'bribe' it will be rather insulting. I mean honestly, who thinks a single will bribe anyone? It was an obvious gag, and not at all intended to make refs look corrupt. That was not where Ochocinco was coming from. The whole 'maybe this will change your mind' and give em something insignificant is a classic gag.

I for one am glad to see the old fun loving Ochocinco back. The NFL is a better place with his shenanigans. The man is a freaking genius when it comes to on field antics when he is having fun.

Fining a man $10k for making a joke with a one dollar bill is an act of lunacy.

[Colonel Flagg]

He's starting to look like a tiny Andy Reid out there.

Just so long as he doesn't resemble a BIG Andy Reid. :lol

BTW, that was a sucktastic Sunday night abortion. I didn't think one player could mean that much to a team, until I saw Moise Fokou. What an apt name for a linebacker who committed the equivalent of 140+ yards in pointless penalties. >:

[Colonel Flagg]

Fining a man $10k for making a joke with a one dollar bill is an act of lunacy.

Have they actually fined him yet? I don't see it on ESPN, but that doesn't mean anything.

He WAS fined $10K for wearing the wrong color chin strap. Now THAT's a reason to lay the hammer down, and hard! :dunce

[Pentegarn]

If it had been anyone but Ochocinco it would have been a warning, however Goodell treats Ochocinco as his walking talking examample

[El Blanco]

See, when I said $10k, I was just spouting a hypothetical. I didn't think they would really fine him like that because it would be nuts.


They actually fined him $20k

[Colonel Flagg]

The commissioner's office is bound and determined to remove anything resembling "fun" out of professional football, and back in the bedroom, where it belongs.

Seriously, WTF?

[Colonel Flagg]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4651092

The very appearance of impropriety is not acceptable. Your conduct was unprofessional and unbecoming an NFL player.

Barrack [sic] I've just been fined again, can we meet to set up a fun rule please. I can't go to mcdonalds for 2 weeks now.

:lol

[WhiteRat]

We all know AP will rush for at least a hundo on the Lions, but does anyone think he could go over 150? 200 perhaps? A lot of the media and local radio rubes are spouting huge numbers for AP.

[Pentegarn]

NFL = No fun league :P

[Babs]

BENGALS BEAT THE DUMBASS STEELERS

fuck that jack ass heinz ward or how ever you spell that hybrids name

[Colonel Flagg]

Boomer Esiason is smiling. :)

[Pentegarn]

The Bengals could make a serious run for repping the AFC in the Super Bowl this year.

Not that it matters, none of them are beating the Saints anyway.

And right now, the Pats are beating the Colts, so there might only be one undefeated left soon.

[Babs]

Colts came back and won? How the hell...

[Geggy]

Belichick massively fucked up. I'm sure he feels like shit. But I do still believe in him. Even great coaches make oddly bad decisions from time to time. He's lucky it wasn't the postseasons.

[El Blanco]

He did fuck up, but it was not for going for it on 4th & 2. That was the right call.

It was his clock management and play calling that seemed messed up and cost them a few times last night. Pats fans should wonder about that.

Seriously, on 3 & 2, why not let Maroney or Faulk carry it? You can do that twice if you have to.

[Colonel Flagg]

And the Birds took a flyer on Michael Vick for some much needed red-zone improvement.

3 times inside the 10 - 9 points.

How's that working out? >:

[Pentegarn]

3 times inside the 10 - 9 points.

How's that working out? >:

Ask the Browns, they do it almost 100% of the time they are in the red zone.

When the Saints D is outscoring your teams O, then we'll talk bad redzone performance :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

Yeah, but the Eagles were supposed to be good. :dunce

[Pentegarn]

Fair enough.

How bout MJD's act?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Maurice-Jones-Drew-takes-a-knee-apologizes-to-f?urn=nfl,202651

Not only does he not take the stat padding a TD would give him for the sake of team, he apologizes to his fantasy team owners for doing so.

So we have a pro athlete, that cares about team first, and cares about how what he does effects his fans....

Haven't seen that sort of class in pro sports in years.

[Geggy]

He did fuck up, but it was not for going for it on 4th & 2. That was the right call.

It was his clock management and play calling that seemed messed up and cost them a few times last night. Pats fans should wonder about that.

Seriously, on 3 & 2, why not let Maroney or Faulk carry it? You can do that twice if you have to.

thats what i meant, unusually poor time management and use of time-outs by belichick. i understand why he gambled to go for it on 4th and 2 but i disagree with the decision. when the ball was at new england's 28, the risk was too high especially against a good defensive team. i wouldnt have a problem with the decision if the ball was at between new england's 45 to the goal line. they should've punted and belichick should've had some confidence in the defense squad to shut them down. i read that the patriots defense was too gassed at the point which influenced belichick's decision to stay with the offense. it's all over now and it's another chapter added to the boston sports moment of total fuck ups.

[El Blanco]

So, he should have confidence in his defense to shut down possibly the greatest QB of all time, but not in his highly touted offense to pick up 2 yards?

Keep in mind, the NE defense was gassed and surrendered 300 yards and 2 TDs to Manning at that point. Not to mention 92 yards and a TD on the ground.

Tom Brady before that play had 375 yards, 3 TDs. the running backs had 110 yards and 1 TD. The Colts defense looked every bit as gassed as the Pats.

I don't think it would have been a terrible call to punt, but I think going for it was a slightly better idea.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Head coach of the Bills Dick Jauron was fired today. I really don't think we'll be any better or worse off though.

[Colonel Flagg]

And Mangina coaches onward and downward.... :tear

[Babs]

Browns have the best offense

[WhiteRat]

Proof that NFL fans should not vote for the Pro Bowl. The top vote getters at C and FB for the NFC are John Sullivan and Naufahu Tahi. Tahi has an amazing 2 carries for 3 yards and 7 receptions for 53 yards and no touchdowns (32 of those yards were from a dump off against St. Louis!) Now before you say, "Well he's a FB, i'm sure he's a great blocker for AP", hold that thought. The Vikings don't even use a blocking FB that much at all and when they do I guarantee you'll never notice Tahi doing anything of note. Normally i'd be happy to have him on the pro bowl team but the guy SUCKS. Big time. In fact, a lot of Viking fans were upset when we re-signed him this past offseason.

And John Sullivan? He's played some decent ball but he his hardly pro bowl worthy, in fact, he's the weakest we have on the o-line right now.

End rant.

[Babs]

BENGALS LOSE

WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO

[Geggy]

I truly wish I had seen the game between cleveland and detroit.

[Pentegarn]

No you don't, unless you really like bad football riddled with mistakes on all sides of the football :P

[Babs]

talking about the bengals game right.......

[Geggy]

i've always been a sucker for slapstick humor so...

[Pentegarn]

talking about the bengals game right.......

No I was talking bout the Cleveland debacle. I mean honestly, PI in the endzone, when someone had already intercepted the ball? Why not just forfeit and save the fans the heartbreak?

i've always been a sucker for slapstick humor so...

The Three Stooges thought these guys were clumsy

[Geggy]

What did they think of the cowboys-redskins game? :lol

[Geggy]

thought this was funny and sad at the same time, but more funny

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/NFL-referee-didn-t-mean-to-high-five-Vince-Young?urn=nfl,204948

[Pentegarn]

That sounds like much ado about nothing. How do we know the high five in question was not a greeting/farewell between people who are friends outside the game?

I said it before, I will say it again, NFL = no fun league

[El Blanco]

That was supposed to be a Round-the World butt grab, but, we've all seen Vince Young's aim.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

[MattJack]

We made the Pats quit last night at with about 5 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter. :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

The Browns beat the Steelers on Thursday. I felt a great disturbance in the force.

Eagles are presently taking a crap over Giants Stadium, most assuredly flying to an ignominous defeat by "Turf-Toe" Manning. By all that is holy, why do I keep caring about pro football? :confused

[MattJack]

Because it's an awesome game. Most the fans just blow.

[Pentegarn]

The Browns beat the Steelers on Thursday. I felt a great disturbance in the force.

Eagles are presently taking a crap over Giants Stadium, most assuredly flying to an ignominous defeat by "Turf-Toe" Manning. By all that is holy, why do I keep caring about pro football? :confused

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20091213019&prov=ap

Bet you have never been so glad to be wrong about a premature called defeat. :lol

[Colonel Flagg]

I know, I'm a pessimist. When they went behind mid-3rd quarter, I thought they would fold. (I also had a baaaad feeling about that botched XP) Glad that neither defense decided to show up. :p

I guess DeShaun Jackson has fully recovered from his concussion?

[El Blanco]

The Giants' d-backs make everyone look good.

Can we get a new defensive play caller?

[Colonel Flagg]

Both defenses make the other offense look like they all should be going to the Pro Bowl. Speaking of which, I didn't think it was possible to gain over 500 yards total offense and still lose the game. Maybe possible, but certainly not probable. Nothing is in this season, apparently.

Is anyone insterested in tonights MNF snoozefest? Any Cardinal of Niner fans out there? :(

[Pentegarn]

Is anyone insterested in tonights MNF snoozefest? Any Cardinal of Niner fans out there? :(

I respect the Cardinals team currently. And Singletary is always cool.

But I bet it wasn't as boring as Cleveland/Baltimore MNF was :lol

[Pentegarn]

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE it if NO and Indianapolis both got to 18-0 and faced each other in the Super Bowl.

If there were any justice in the world (which it has been established there is not) there would be live 24 hour coverage of the 72 Dolphins getting more and more antsy as this gets closer to reality.

They could call it the 'Celebrate that you bitter old asses' show. :P

[Colonel Flagg]

As you have proven over and over, with your powers of prediction, this is now a virtual LOCK. :)

[Babs]

Guarantee the colts DO NOT make it to the Super Bowl. It's most definitely going to be the Bengals and Saints.

[Colonel Flagg]

:lol

MOST DEFINITELY!

[Pentegarn]

Oh man Babality, this sucks, I just found out Chris Henry died :(

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/12/17/henry.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

He was turning his life around too, which makes this worse.

[WhiteRat]

This sounds really bad but I wasn't all surprised when I heard the news. Henry was nothing but trouble since his days at West Virginia and damn near played his way out of the NFL. Supposedly he was turning things around, which was good.

Terrible accident.

[Babs]

It's horribly terrible to hear such news. It's horrible to hear about anyone passing away but to hear about an athlete with such a promising future for his own better sake is heart breaking. Not to say it's better to mourn those who have played a sport and have passed away, but it's sad to see someone who has worked their whole life to get into an amazing college with a proficient program and pass away at the young age of 26 is terribly heart breaking news. I can only hope that his team mates can persevere though all of this and gather the strength to gain what is there's and his.

[Colonel Flagg]

Terrible news. :(

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

I'm sorry to hear about his loss. I don't know him or anything about him but 26 is really young.

On slightly less terrible news : http://www.wgrz.com/sports/story.aspx?storyid=72892&catid=4
The RAMS dropped Incognito and the Bills signed him. :(

[WhiteRat]

I'm sorry to hear about his loss. I don't know him or anything about him but 26 is really young.

On slightly less terrible news : http://www.wgrz.com/sports/story.aspx?storyid=72892&catid=4
The RAMS dropped Incognito and the Bills signed him. :(

Good, now Setterstrom can show them how it's done.

[Pentegarn]

Fuckin Saints

[GrindhouseCinema]

Go Vikings!

[Babs]

Bengals are doing amazing right now minus now covering that 88 fellow on the Chargers offense. I mean come on, how hard is it to cover a guy with the speed of a tight end?

edit: The Bengals suck and are a disappointment.

ANOTHER EDIT: I'M NERVOUS NOW

[Pentegarn]

The Browns are on a 2 game winning streak....

Now there's a sentence I did not think I was going to say this season.

But, if they win out.....

We'll be stuck with Mangini :(

[Babs]

GOD DAMN THAT BENGALS GAME WAS SO GOOD BUT WHY!!!!

[Colonel Flagg]

Babs - you're right, that was disappointing, on many levels. :(

Pent - DUDE YOU'RE GETTIN' SOME WINS! :)

10K - Uh. How about "Yo! TO!"

At least Randy Moss had the last word on that game. Last week he had one catch for 16-yards in a 20-10 win over Carolina. In his words, at the post-game press-conference:

You all did your talking, now let me do mine. I've been in this league 12 years, and I've been through a lot. And these shoulders that I have on my body, you can put the earth on it. So just to let you know, I bounced back. I appreciate it.

He then left without taking questions.

What a dick.

[El Blanco]

So, ya, the Giants pounded the Washington Racists like the shower scene of a bad prison movie. But, I'm still not thrilled. I saw a lot of questionable play calling on defense. I'm not sure I like the idea of Umeni...Umeny...Umenu...Osi covering a wideout. I saw them do this against the Saints and it was disastrous every time. I think the idea is for him to hand the guy off to a DB thus negating a bump at the line, but it doesn't seem to work so smoothly.

So, the Giants need to win both their remaining games and have either Dallas or Green Bay drop one or win one game and have Dallas or GB drop both.

[Pentegarn]

So, ya, the Giants pounded the Washington Racists like the shower scene of a bad prison movie. But, I'm still not thrilled. I saw a lot of questionable play calling on defense. I'm not sure I like the idea of Umeni...Umeny...Umenu...Osi covering a wideout. I saw them do this against the Saints and it was disastrous every time. I think the idea is for him to hand the guy off to a DB thus negating a bump at the line, but it doesn't seem to work so smoothly.

So, the Giants need to win both their remaining games and have either Dallas or Green Bay drop one or win one game and have Dallas or GB drop both.

How can you talk about that game and not mention this moment?

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[El Blanco]

Because no one is shocked that the Redskins have bad coaching. Just like how I won't mention Campbell's lousy game, but I'll disect the hell out of Eli Manning's game.

[Pentegarn]

Yeah but that was bad even for bad. I played playground football almost every day from 4th grade till I was in my early 20s and that is the single stupidest play I have ever seen counting even all the drawn in the dirt crap we made up in playground football :D

[WhiteRat]

I just love how the media is desperately trying to blow the Favre-Childress issue out of proportion. Since he signed the media here has tried to dig up every little detail about Favre, the locker room, his teammates, and his coaches because in this state if it's Favre it SELLS.

[Babs]

Yeah, what the hell is up with the Favre and Childress thing?

[Pentegarn]

Not sure but I am suddenly hearing they bicker about Favre's freedom to call audibles

[Pentegarn]

By the way...

Fuckin Colts

[WhiteRat]

Childress has been known to be a micro-manager and we all know Favre has the "gunslinger" mentality. I'm sure they've had some disagreements this season (what players/coaches don't), but Favre has been close friends with Childress and OC Bevell so it's not like they are at each other's throats. This supposed riff is just another example of ESPN trying to turn it into a soap opera.

[Pentegarn]

Well, I admit I have trouble having faith in the same sports news organization that sucks the SEC's collective dicks.

[Babs]

I heard Brett Favre is old and not in his prime anymore.

[Pentegarn]

OK, my updated prediction for the Super Bowl

Philadelphia: 23
San Diego: 17

That's right, I have no faith in either of the 'front runners'. NO forgot they are NO, and Indianapolis seems to forget the only difference between rest and rust is a single letter. Both Philly and SD are playing like they want it. When teams do that at the end of the season, they win championships

[Colonel Flagg]

The last weekend of the regular season promises to be interesting, if you follow an AFC team. 6 teams still trying to vie for the final two playoff spots. I'd really like it if Pittsburgh gets shut out. :lol

[WhiteRat]

I'm still calling Vikes/Saints in the NFC Championship game.

[Pentegarn]

If the Vikings keep losing they won't be able to overcome a team that is hot like Green Bay or Philly

[WhiteRat]

Green Bay is of no concern. I hope we play them a third time so we can beat the shit out of Erin again. The Cardinals backed their asses into the playoffs and got hot at the right time. The vikes will be okay.

Bring on Green Bay and Philly.

[Colonel Flagg]

Agreed. Even though they've been in a funk lately, they still have the most potent running attack in the NFC. That, along with having Favre at the helm has a depressing (for me:() tendency to win games in January.

I'm really hoping for an Eagles win on Sunday, so they can claim the second seed, and an off week.

[Babs]

I think the Bengals really have the potential this year to win the AFC championship. The Bengals have a really solid defense that we're really going to see flourish in the play offs. Not only is their defense solid, but I would have to say their offense has became more aggressive. I think the only firm glimpse we got of their potential was in the Chicago game. You're going to start seeing a lot more of Caldwell along with Coles. Of course, Ochocinco is going to step it up become more open over the middle with a combination of screen passes. Look for the Bengals to be the top threat in the playoffs along with the Chargers.

[Colonel Flagg]

Yeah, Babs, I'm drinking the same Kool-Aid, but mine is green. :\

[Pentegarn]

Last week of the regular season.

Some big games too:

Giants vs. Vikings
Packers vs. Cardinals

Also, expect Carolina to beat New Orleans.

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

Just got back from the Bills game. Soo Cooold. By the end of the half there was half an inch of snow on top of my foot.

[Colonel Flagg]

Fuck the Eagles. Can't even score 3 lousy points against the Cowboys. Let's roll over and play dead. Dicks. :explode

[Zombie Loaf]

It's nice to see the Bills end on sort of a high note. It's been a tough year.

[WhiteRat]

Fuck the Eagles. Can't even score 3 lousy points against the Cowboys. Let's roll over and play dead. Dicks. :explode

Thanks for that second seed, bud!

[Pentegarn]

And that extinguishes Philly's fiery momentum. Looks like it will be all about Green Bay

[Kitsa]

I want another Fog Bowl.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_Bowl_%28American_football%29

[Colonel Flagg]

How about another Ice Bowl?

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/decades/1960s/ice_bowl.aspx

It would have to be Green Bay vs. Philly, though. :(

[Kitsa]

I'll see your ice bowl and raise you a body bag game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Body_Bag_Game

-lGnHqlXilg

[Colonel Flagg]

Buddy Ryan couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag, but he sure was entertaining.

[Pentegarn]

OK. Time for my predictions for the playoffs. (these may all be wrong, I'm no expert after all)

Pats vs. Ravens: Pats
Jets vs. Bengals: Jets
Packers vs. Cardinals: Packers
Eagles vs. Cowboys: Cowboys

Pats vs. Colts: Colts
Jets vs. Chargers: Chargers
Packers vs. Saints: Packers
Cowboys vs. Vikings: Cowboys

Colts vs. Chargers: Chargers
Packers vs. Cowboys: Packers

Chargers vs. Packers: Chargers

[10,000 Volt Ghost]

The Bills are going to be playing in the DUST BOWL because they just dusted their entire management team.

[Pentegarn]

Yeah, I thought about you when I heard that. I thought, '10k should be happy'

[Colonel Flagg]

OK. Time for my predictions for the playoffs. (these may all be wrong, I'm no expert after all)

Pats vs. Ravens: Pats
Jets vs. Bengals: Jets
Packers vs. Cardinals: Packers
Eagles vs. Cowboys: Cowboys

Pats vs. Colts: Colts
Jets vs. Chargers: Chargers
Packers vs. Saints: Packers
Cowboys vs. Vikings: Cowboys

Colts vs. Chargers: Chargers
Packers vs. Cowboys: Packers

Chargers vs. Packers: Chargers

Pack wins 3 on the road? With Aaron Rodgers? Not bloody likely.

My random pick generator:

Pats vs. Ravens: Pats
Jets vs. Bengals: Bengals
Packers vs. Cardinals: Cards
Eagles vs. Cowboys: Cowboys

Bengals vs. Colts: Colts
Pats vs. Chargers: Chargers
Cards vs. Saints: Saints
Cowboys vs. Vikings: Vikes

Chargers vs. Colts: Chargers
Vikes vs. Saints: Vikes

Super Bowl - Chargers vs. Vikings: Minnesota finally wins the big one. :)

(of course I regularly drop a load in the NCAA pool, so don't get your hopes up WhiteRat.)

EDIT: and the Redskins are interviewing Mike Shanahan even as I write this.

[Pentegarn]

Pack wins 3 on the road? With Aaron Rodgers? Not bloody likely.

Except the Packers are on fire, Aaron Rodgers is pretty good with competent linemen in front of him (and for some reason the Pack O-line is good now), and it seems home team advantage is meaningless now (just ask the participants of last years Super Bowl)

[Kitsa]

I like Rodgers a hell of a lot better then Favre.

[WhiteRat]

Vikes vs. Saints: Vikes

Super Bowl - Chargers vs. Vikings: Minnesota finally wins the big one. :)

(of course I regularly drop a load in the NCAA pool, so don't get your hopes up WhiteRat.)

this.
:lol

The though of the Vikings in the Super Bowl is unfathomable. Not because I don't think they are good enough but there are have been so many heartbreaks in my lifetime that I'm resigned to them never getting there. They always find a way to choke it away.

[WhiteRat]

Except the Packers are on fire, Aaron Rodgers is pretty good with competent linemen in front of him (and for some reason the Pack O-line is good now), and it seems home team advantage is meaningless now (just ask the participants of last years Super Bowl)

I pray that the Packers face the Vikings again. Rodgers will once again be haunted by "Cash for Clunkers" as the Pack fans refer him as.

[Colonel Flagg]

Except the Packers are on fire, Aaron Rodgers is pretty good with competent linemen in front of him (and for some reason the Pack O-line is good now), and it seems home team advantage is meaningless now (just ask the participants of last years Super Bowl)

Not buying it. 3 road wins in the Playoffs is tough enough with a good team, but the Pack is currently doing it with smoke and mirrors. I firmly believe they'll choke on it big time. Plus the fact that I abso-effing-lutely HATE the Packers.

[Pentegarn]

I have no feelings one way or the other about the Packers. But I am noticing an odd pattern about how the various winning trends are happening. If I am right, (and by my experiments in predictions yesterday I have reason to believe I might be) then there's a fair chance it will rumble out just as I predicted.