Um... Blanco, buddy... "pro-life" and "pro-choice" are only terms used in the abortion ballpark. They don't extend to other issues.
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My point is nearly identical to Proto's. The age limit should be longer than 3 months, imho, since Ive heared of cases where women didnt know that they were pregnant up untill 5+ months. They even had a bloody... discharge... every month which was equivilant to a light period.
And on to the case of other contraceptives, they can fail. I know that you all have heared of cases where someone gets pregnant using the Pill and a condom (if I have, you most likely have, I rarely pay attention to current events). And if that happens, those involved would think that they are in the clear, and not take the Morning After Pill. Let alone, from what I hear, the side effects of the pills are quite unpleasant, so very few people would take them "just in case". As for adoption, pregnancy can alter ones life almost as much as actually having a kid, albeit only for a few months. Then theres the case of the kid becoming the equivalent of an orphan, due to nobody wanting to adopt, but rather having their own damn kids. Then theres the cases of people dumping their kids in the dumpster. And making those responsible take care of the kid, uh... no. Babies end your life as you know it. Period. How many people what their lives to change entirely because of an accident? Hmm..? Let abortion be up to the individual, not everyone has to do it. Morals are just a matter of opinion. Many people think its also morally wrong for a white girl to be dating a black man, for example. well, Ive written way to fucking much, and Ill be supprised if anyone reads this long winded rant. |
Exactly. To all those people who are strongly against abortion, here is my advice to you: DON'T FUCKING HAVE ONE.
Problem solved. It's just that simple. Now, on to the next issue. |
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So, if you don't want to bomb Iraq, DON'T JOIN THE ARMY.
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Riiiiiight. Cause that's a parallel that makes sense.
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I don't understand how abortion is a great debate for the majority anyway. Most of us are males from the ages of 14 to 30. How does this pertain to most of us anyway? Yeah Proto, you're the person that makes the most sense on these boards. If you dont want abortion, dont fuck around. This isn't much of a debate if you ask me. Abortion? What a lame-ass topic.
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do you want responsibility of my kid if I accidentaly knock my girlfriend up? Im serious.
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yes yes if you don't like abortion dont get one! i third that statement. may it forever be your choice!
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my taxes don't pay for abortions but my taxes DO pay for fucking BOMBS!! my taxes pay to subsidize oil, lockheed martin, and the thousands of subsidiaries that make money on militarily stealing oil rights from other countries! that's a pathetic comparison. >: |
So far, in my admittedly limited experience here, it seems ProtoClown's job here is to discourage discussion. All I'm hearing is "Stop Talking! Stop Talking!"
He seems to be akin to our Gator (which is a tremendous compliment, BTW) but just a little too worried about newbies. WE DON'T BITE! :D |
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Kevin, I pointed that out.
The reason for my Iraq statement was because those people dont' affect me, so what do I care? I am part of the first generation to be mowed down by Roe v Wade. Obviously, I have a little stake in its status. Quote:
And what does me being in my 20s and possesing a penis have to do with whether or not I can opine on abortion? Thats just retarded. I'm not black, does that mean I can't vote on a civil rights bill? Or that I can't have some insight on the matter? |
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Sorry, didn't mean to come off like a dick there.
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I screwed up so this is going to be out of order.
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But the end result will always come out to be human. No matter the manner of conditions you place it under. For the DNA is inherently human. Thus the being is inherently human. Is the cell "alive" or is it just a part of a living organism? Is the organ "alive" or merely functioning? I meant the same thing you did. But simple teaching them the use of contraceptives, and the consequences of sex isn't enough of a deterent. Or at the very least a complete deterent. For without being forced to view the risks it has outside of the realm of 4th or 5th person, teenagers will continue to foolishly believe it won't happen to them. Quote:
But to make abortion illegal doesn't remove that choice. It merely creates a deterent. As does making murder illegal. I can still choose to murder someone, but because of the law against it I have a reason to choose not too. Quote:
There are far more than two types of contraceptives in existance. I have a friend who uses double condom and spermacide. Unwanted children are a tragedy. And if I were running the adoption agency I wouldn't allow them to put the child up. But thankfully a large number of babies are adopted. They are picked up quickly, and willingly. Anyone dumping their child in a dumpster is committing a crime and should be treated as the criminal they are. And yes it is tragic that the irresponsible people had their lives alter. Sorry if this sounds condescending didn't really intend it to sound that way. I'm also not basing this on morals. I'm basing it off science, logic, and the rights of all human beings. |
alright, my bad.. we do subsidise planned parenthood
the arguement if you dont support bombing iraq don't join the service still doesnt make sense to me. our taxes are spent by our government.. we only have a tiny say about what they do with them. i guess i do support my taxes going to kill fetuses but that doesnt mean i should support my taxes going to kill iraqis, afghanis etc. fetuses dont retaliate >: fetuses arent a country, a people, or a religion. i wish we could choose what we want our taxes to pay for individually.. but damn the beurocracy that would create would be monstrous. :miffed |
Again, MORNING AFTER PILLS. Maybe this will shut you all up.
I've said this before, but we should first be more concerned with the people who are living NOW, rather than potential people who have no perception, much less self-understanding, that they exist at all. Only once we've solved these problems, should we then worry about the embryos. |
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It all boils down to wether or not the fetus is "alive" or not. I believe that it isnt. Even if it was, isnt it more "humane" to put something out of its misery, rather than let it have a prolong existance in misery? bah, whatever. This is a lot like arguing about drug laws. Illegal or not, people would still do them, so why punish em?
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