Strength training VS Cardio for fat loss
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Weightlifting is the most effective form of exercise for weight loss, but you should combine it with cardio if you intend to actually be 'fit' in any capacity. Diet is again the biggest part. Come to think of it, if you just want to lose fat and not gain any muscle whatsoever (in fact, you'll lose some), just diet hard on a protein-sparing modified fast like Lyle's program and don't do a fucking thing in terms of exercise. If you're also aiming to be a delicious trap, supplement that awful idea with Soy milk, because it's full of phyto-estrogen. |
weightlifting is not the most effective form of weight loss. it is, however, the most effective way to lose weight while simultaneously bulking up and strengthening muscle.
cardio is the most effective form of weight loss. it's also the easiest and fastest and in my opinion the most fun, because you don't have to do the same shit over and over again like you do with pushups/pullups/weight lifting/etc. it'll also help you tone the muscles, instead of building on them. |
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2. Cardio is not BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION the fastest way to exercise. What is this I don't even. Perhaps you're thinking of high-intensity interval training? 3. Cardio is not the most effective form of weight loss, either, no. You will burn more calories with cardio while you're exercising than you would with weights, but the body's repairing process will burn more calories overall with weightlifting. Further, the longer you do cardio, the more your body will retain fat to sustain itself during extended cardio sessions. 4. "You don't have to do the same shit over and over [with cardio]" - wtf? That is like, the DEFINITION of cardio. Repetitive motions for extended periods of time. With weightlifting you're doing something different every 10-20 minutes, and should have different routines on different days of the week. Toning, shaping, spot reduction, etc. are all broscience and don't exist. You're perpetuating myths in your ignorance. That post was so patently incorrect that I'm gonna try to troll /fit/ with it. http://zip.4chan.org/fit/res/1811468.html |
I AM SORRY IF I WAS TOO HARSH but your post made me rage ;<
it was like the advice some female personal trainer in her 50s would give you, moments before she goes off to do some curls with 5 lb. weights. |
:lol TROLLED
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OK, apparently, we have very ideas of what "cardio" is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise i was not referring to like 80s jazzercise. cardio is the best, it's the fast-paced stuff that gets you moving. boxing, dancing, skating, swimming, running, whatever. you can do hardcore or light, you will get results either way. it's not rocket science, anyone can understand why cardio is a more reasonable choice for someone just looking to slim down. strengthening will totally change your physique, it'll take the fat and make it work in a different way for you -- whereas cardio will just take your shape and make it smaller, it'll eliminate the fat and then after a while, begin to tighten your body. (tighten=tone to me) and yeah cardio is way more fun imo, i'm pretty sure anyone could find some form of cardio that they would love doing, and if not, they can switch it up any which way they like. no matter what you choose though the idea is the same, the goal is to burn more than you eat. also i'm not clicking on that 4chan link and i think it was really silly that you just apologized to me for nothing but thanks i guess:( |
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fyi i play videogames while i use my recumbent bike on my cardio days so it's not really that bad, but point is - cardio is inferior to lifting weights unless you're an olympic swimmer (and therefore need your bodyweight to be retarded low). chicks all seem to have this retarded phobia of becoming the next chyna if they touch a barbell, when their bodies are physically not able to do that without going nuts with injections like they're playing Bioshock. |
first off, you're a jerk, i don't want to be kidnapped, if i wanted my words on 4chan i'd post them there myself:(
and i'll try to meet you in the middle here, cardio is better for slimming down, it is faster and more efficient. strength training is better for overall fitness in the long run. this is proven, this is known, it's not even a debate. it's the way it is. i was trying to avoid the semantics and make this as simple as possible to understand, but if you still don't, i'd be more than happy to get technical. ALSO, i'm not afraid of strength training, i've done it plenty, i have no issues with it, i actually had to take a workshop on it when getting my assistant coach badge. i wasn't going to say anything at all but i found it incredibly annoying that you were actually discouraging people from doing what they were doing and wanted to do just because you read about fitness on 4chan and it worked for you, which is great and awesome and dandy but not everyone wants to do 200 squats and pullups a day:( nothing wrong with cardio |
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You have it backwards. People who lift weights become cosmetically better, but often are lacking in terms of actual fitness. THAT is what cardio is for. Feel free to educate yourself! http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html And because I know you won't read it, here's the part of it that directly relates to this discussion: Quote:
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no you
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http://www.naturalnews.com/011285_bo...scle_mass.html "Strength Training for Weight Loss: Weight Lifting Is Better Than Cardio Exercise or Dieting" http://weight-loss-methods.suite101....or_weight_loss "The typical consensus is that cardiovascular activity and a stringent diet are the only ways to achieve weight loss. On the contrary, utilizing a weightlifting routine will boost your metabolism and help you shed unwanted weight." http://www.ehow.com/way_5410921_stre...ight-loss.html Quote:
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i am supposed to be studying, i am not going to have this conversation with you if you're just going to link articles to make your point, i can do that too.
http://www.lifemojo.com/lifestyle/ca...aining-4713708 http://hubpages.com/hub/CardiovsStre...chburnsmorefat http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042001772.html |
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Link 2: Presupposes that strength training is lauded for fat loss due to muscle burning more calories than fat while existing. The increase in calorie burn by just having muscle is minimal, but that's not why strength training is better for fat loss - fat loss is promoted by the body repairing microtears in muscle tissue, which OVERALL burns more calories than cardio does. The article then goes on to ignore all of the actual benefits of strength training. Link 3: Also is only counting the calories burned while actually exercising. Again, most of the calories burned by lifting are burned while you rest. I lol'd though at them saying YEAH WELL YOU CAN ONLY LIFT A FEW TIMES A WEEK -- THAT IS BECAUSE ON THE OFF DAYS YOUR BODY IS BURNING CALORIES TO REPAIR ITSELF, FUCKWITS, A PROCESS WHICH WOULD BE SLOWED BY PUTTING STRAIN ON THE MUSCLES BY DOING CARDIO Quote:
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btw elx i am very appreciative that there is at least one other person on this board who actually gives a shit about fitness and will argue with me
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strength training is not superior to cardio. in cardio, you will lose weight faster because you are burning more calories in less amount of time than you would in strength training alone. you are also less restricted, you are able to exercise for longer unintermittedly. as it turns out though, the end results are equally sucky on their own, the most effective form of weight loss is neither, it would be a combination of the two, so we were both wrong.
here are two quick studies I found that support my conclusion- this one for healthy older adults: http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Ab...aining.21.aspx this one for slightly obese younger adults: http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/66/3/557 if you had to choose between the two, I would still say that you should opt for cardio. you just have more flexibility in your work out than you would in strength conditioning alone, because of this you can do it much more casually and get the exact same results you would have if you were doing squats, situps, pullups, weight lifting, etc. |
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1 hour of exercise: cardio > lifting 1 week of exercise: lifting (3 days, 4 days rest) > cardio (7 days) 1 week of max fat loss: lifting (3 days), cardio (4 days) Quote:
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Also I don't really have a dog in this fight since I do both (3 days strength, 4 days cardio), but I feel that strength training is often overlooked because people think it's too hard or inefficient due to misinformation. Add to this that it's far easier to do cardio CORRECTLY since it's nigh impossible to fuck up, unlike weights, which have smith and nautilus machines that produce shitty results.
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i don't give a crud about fitness, i never work out because i don't have to. :3
but yes, cardio is generally better for most people aswell as easier, i'm glad we agree. now what is this thread for? |
Cardio is only better if you're a pussy with a lot of free time on your hands
a.k.a. everyone on the internet |
why even bother working out so much?
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i'd show you some before and after pics, but the "before" ones induce vomiting and i'm still not quite where i'd like to be with my weight
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if you keep at it you'll look gross :(
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yeah that's disgusting, someone should tell that dude he's missing his pants:(
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