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The One and Only... Jan 3rd, 2004 06:54 PM

A few syllogisms on the existence of the supernatural
 
All existing things were caused.
Reality is an existing thing.
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Therefore, reality was caused.


All existing things were caused.
The concept of the supernatural is an existing thing.
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Therefore, the concept of the supernatural was caused.

Now, it is important to recognize how these proofs could be used in favor of the supernatural. First of all, it is an absurdity to say that something in the natural world could create the natural world, since that would mean it would have to exist before it began to exist; thus, something outside of the natural world - the supernatural would have to have created it.

The second syllogism is a much subtler proof. It requires a question - what would cause the concept of the supernatural if not some evidence for it? Thus, it does not actually prove the existence of the supernatural - it simply widens the discussion and leaves a very deep wound in empirical atheists.

Now then...

I know what the flaws of my syllogisms are already, and they are the flaws of every syllogism known to man - they rely on axioms. There is no proof that everything is caused; this Hume pointed out to me. In addition, there is no proof that reality even exists; this I pointed out to myself. However, axioms have always been required for man to think properly, and the ones I have assumed here are fairly common.

Later, I will post a thread about epistomology and my view on axioms, but this is not the appropriate discussion.

Another thing you may have noticed is that the first proof contradicts the view that time is infinite, at least within the natural world, but I don't want to get into that issue at the current time (no pun intended).

AChimp Jan 3rd, 2004 07:06 PM



:dunce

The One and Only... Jan 3rd, 2004 07:12 PM

The equation is flawed.

Girls = Time + Money, not Time x Money. "And" implies addition.

Anonymous Jan 3rd, 2004 07:40 PM

And yet without that equation, this thread would be pointless.

sspadowsky Jan 3rd, 2004 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One and Only...
The equation is flawed.

Girls = Time + Money, not Time x Money. "And" implies addition.

Get back to me when you've dated a girl. Trust me, Girls= Time x Money.

The One and Only... Jan 3rd, 2004 10:18 PM

No one has commented on my logic yet. I DEMAND COMMENTS.

Cosmo Electrolux Jan 3rd, 2004 10:20 PM

I've been married 18 years and have a daughter. Women are indeed evil.

and, you're annoying.

thank you.

Drew Katsikas Jan 3rd, 2004 10:21 PM

Sorry to break it to you, but real life isn't a math problem.

Anonymous Jan 3rd, 2004 10:33 PM

Yeah, it's a big problem! :lol

The One and Only... Jan 3rd, 2004 10:37 PM

Life is a math problem - it's just that it's composed of so many variables that trying to form the equation is like trying to find a needle in the universe.

Anonymous Jan 3rd, 2004 10:39 PM

Face it, One, we're still going to keep on talking about chimp's post, no matter what.

The One and Only... Jan 3rd, 2004 10:45 PM

That is because YOU CANNOT DEFEAT MY LOGIC!!!

Anonymous Jan 3rd, 2004 10:53 PM

Maybe. I don't know. I skipped your initial post.

Drew Katsikas Jan 3rd, 2004 10:54 PM

Mathematical logic in non-mathematical situations is a fallicy. Example: My friend Ballady is gay. He is a math lover. My friend Justin is a math lover. Therefore, Justin is gay. Wrong. >:

ziggytrix Jan 3rd, 2004 11:27 PM

WRONG AGAIN, KATSIKAS!

Drew Katsikas Jan 3rd, 2004 11:31 PM

When was the other time? :posh

ziggytrix Jan 3rd, 2004 11:37 PM

don't mind me, it's just the fever typing :)

Drew Katsikas Jan 3rd, 2004 11:42 PM

good one!

AChimp Jan 3rd, 2004 11:44 PM

I caused this thread to be saved, therefore I am. :posh

Drew Katsikas Jan 3rd, 2004 11:48 PM

Hey man, this is I-Mockery! We can all be :posh, as long as OAO doesn't have a say in it.

Anonymous Jan 4th, 2004 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AChimp
I caused this thread to be saved, therefore I am. :posh

He's right.

YOU CANNOT DEFEAT MY LOGIC!!!

sspadowsky Jan 4th, 2004 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The One and Only...
No one has commented on my logic yet. I DEMAND COMMENTS.

I did comment on your logic. Get back to me when you've dated a girl. You'll change your mind about the equation.

Brandon Jan 4th, 2004 07:56 AM

Is OAO the new Vince yet?

Vibecrewangel Jan 7th, 2004 08:56 PM

LOL
 
Since my perception creates my reality does that make me supernatural?

Drew Katsikas Jan 7th, 2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtificialBrandon
Is OAO the new Vince yet?

Are you the new Max-worshipping, unfunny, generic poster yet?


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