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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Harlem
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Jan 3rd, 2004, 06:54 PM
A few syllogisms on the existence of the supernatural
All existing things were caused.
Reality is an existing thing.
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Therefore, reality was caused.
All existing things were caused.
The concept of the supernatural is an existing thing.
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Therefore, the concept of the supernatural was caused.
Now, it is important to recognize how these proofs could be used in favor of the supernatural. First of all, it is an absurdity to say that something in the natural world could create the natural world, since that would mean it would have to exist before it began to exist; thus, something outside of the natural world - the supernatural would have to have created it.
The second syllogism is a much subtler proof. It requires a question - what would cause the concept of the supernatural if not some evidence for it? Thus, it does not actually prove the existence of the supernatural - it simply widens the discussion and leaves a very deep wound in empirical atheists.
Now then...
I know what the flaws of my syllogisms are already, and they are the flaws of every syllogism known to man - they rely on axioms. There is no proof that everything is caused; this Hume pointed out to me. In addition, there is no proof that reality even exists; this I pointed out to myself. However, axioms have always been required for man to think properly, and the ones I have assumed here are fairly common.
Later, I will post a thread about epistomology and my view on axioms, but this is not the appropriate discussion.
Another thing you may have noticed is that the first proof contradicts the view that time is infinite, at least within the natural world, but I don't want to get into that issue at the current time (no pun intended).
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