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Oct 7th, 2003 05:43 PM
kahljorn This is kind of like making a Comment against Affirmative action...

My dad listened to Rush Limbaugh all the time, I always considered him more of a comedian than a political authority... in fact that's what i thought he was :/
Oct 7th, 2003 02:27 PM
ranxer http://web1.ami-admin.com/perl/track...%2F46007%2Ejpg



the whole thing about rush involved with black market drugs is so funny because of the statements he's made about locking up and throwing away the key for anyone caught in the same such situation.

i'm not saying i believe the national enquirer on this but its funny that he's facing this situation.. i hope he continues to be quoted to himself.. i don't listen to his show, i can only wonder.

hey vince.. most kids i know are happy to know a dad that's in touch with thier kids instead of taking them to a game where they ignore thier kids for the rooting cheering and jeering of sports insanity.

Rez ""
i can only wonder what you think was funny ..
one book i can point you to is amusing ourselves to death by neil postman.. theres others but this sums up my thoughts on tv
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...76065?v=glance

for the record.. i have cable and 3 tv's and 4 vcr's in my house.. i'm not unfamiliar with the vapidscape that is network broadcasting.
as a matter of fact i think i need tvo for what i want to watch.
Oct 7th, 2003 02:10 PM
mburbank On the George thing; I strongly suspect George was taunting Vinth. If he really meant what he said, then of course I have a HUGE bone to pick with him.

It is possible he meant it, he can be quite unpredicatable. Think though, the lack of response is most people being pretty sure he was baiting Vinth. I speak as one who has taken Georges bait on at least one occasion. It was nowhere near as sexy as it sounds.
Oct 7th, 2003 01:45 PM
Big McLargehuge
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Originally Posted by soundtest
What I think is funny is how people are frothing at the mouth over something Vince said that could possibly imply racism, yet the disgusting comments george made are ignored.
Just thought you should all read this again.
Oct 7th, 2003 12:55 PM
incurable paranoiac If you're going to imply illiteracy, you should probably know how to structure your sentences correctly.

EDIT
I got your sarcasm, fuckwit; notice how I didn't continue to say that the masons were crappy writers?

Can I get you a copy of "Learn To Read, Jackass"? It comes with free copies of "You're a Pretentious Jackass," and "Shut the Fuck Up, Jackass."


Now, then...what was your problem with the article, exactly? I'm confused. I initially thought you were offended by his sarcasm. It would appear, however, that you are offended by mine. I hadn't realized I was being particularly sarcastic. Either way, we're clear on one thing. I AM a pretentious jackass.
Oct 6th, 2003 09:38 PM
kahljorn I got your sarcasm, fuckwit, notice how I didn't continue to say that the masons were crappy writers?

Can I get you a copy of, "Learn to read jackass", it comes with a free copy of: "You're a Pretentious jackass" and, "Shut the fuck up jackass".
Oct 6th, 2003 09:34 PM
incurable paranoiac kahl- shall i send you a copy of "Sarcasm for Dummies"?
Oct 6th, 2003 08:12 PM
kahljorn There's one lesson to be learned here:

Drugs make you more interesting and get you better jobs.
Oct 6th, 2003 08:05 PM
El Blanco I'll just say this and I am done with this thread (ok not really):

ESPN is full of shit. Not just about the Limbaugh thing, but about the race issue in general. Think about it: Why is Michael Irving on that show? To be jive talking and bling-bling wearing. Why didn't they get Warren Moon, a guy who can express an intelligent opinion about football without making an ass of himself (not to mention the lack of cacaine addiction).

Why did Stuart Scott change? Why is he forcing out "booyah" every other line? Why is giving shout outs to Rey-Rey and Pookie and Laquita's baby-daddy (you have to watch it to know what I mean)? He didn't do this when he started. And it sounds pretty forced now when he does. It gives me the feeling that some ABC exec pulled him aside and told him to "urban" up his act a little.

ESPN isn't there yet, but they are looking down that road paved by MTV.
Oct 6th, 2003 04:41 PM
kahljorn I meant, was it written by a moron? An illiterate crack junkey? Some piece of shit journalist just out of College with no chance of making it?

That one statement was really sad.
Oct 6th, 2003 04:10 PM
incurable paranoiac well, since the article is credited to a man named "Tony Norman," i'm gonna play it safe and say it was probably written by the Masons.
Oct 6th, 2003 02:41 PM
Rez
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Originally Posted by ranxer
just for clarification.. any sentiments i have expressed defending rush limbaugh's statements have absolutely nothing to do with football.. football stats or sports in general.. corporate sports are a nearly complete waste of time.. its already been shown by several scientists that staring at a blank wall is better for your health than watching the blinking lights and flashing imagery that is called television and sports are actually worse than that..

i'd go so far as to assert or accuse corporate sports of encouraging the brainless idea that not rooting for your 'home team' is anti-patriotic.


http://www.theonion.com/onion3604/do...elevision.html
Oct 5th, 2003 11:56 PM
kahljorn "Speaking of black leaders, Rush once opined, "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" Hilarious stuff, but not necessarily evidence of racism if you're high."

Who the fuck wrote that artical?
Oct 5th, 2003 11:36 PM
incurable paranoiac mainly i just love the whole denny's parking lot hillbilly heroin angle. it makes me giggle.

haha. denny's.

Published on Friday, October 3, 2003 by the Pittsburgh Post Gazette
He Can Always Say 'It Was the Drugs ...'
by Tony Norman

Well, if it wasn't racism that drove Rush Limbaugh to spout one of the most bigoted comments of even his storied career last Sunday, then maybe it was the OxyContin.

By now, the allegation that Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat prescription drug junkie has supplanted the brouhaha surrounding his observations about black quarterbacks being "media darlings" as the hot topic around office water coolers.

Days earlier, "Ditto-heads" reflexively weighed in with condescending bravado that their hero, though often, um, impolitic about race, surely wasn't a bigot. Why? Because he said so, that's why.

After all the spinning they've had to do since Sunday rationalizing Rush's comments as mainstream white opinion taken out of context, true believers are now scrambling to defend him from charges that he's also a degenerate pill-popper partial to a drug known on the street as "hillbilly heroin."

What's a Ditto-head supposed to think when a salt-of-the-earth newspaper like the National Enquirer -- not some elitist rag like The New York Times -- breaks a story about clandestine drug buys in the parking lot of a Denny's in Palm Beach, Fla.?

According to a cover story in yesterday's New York Daily News, Rush forced his former maid to score copious quantities of OxyContin, hydrocodone and Lorcet from a black market drug ring in Palm Beach.

Because Wilma Cline, Limbaugh's former maid, kept a detailed ledger of the thousands of pills she allegedly bought for him over the years and was wearing a wire for two deliveries, there's bound to be a prosecutor or two, even in Florida, who'll take the allegations seriously.

Among the most explosive of Cline's charges is that she scored 4,350 pills for him in a 47-day period. If true, it would make Rush one of the great unregistered pharmacies of the Republican Party.

For a guy who attacks the "druggy" legacy of the '60s as much as Rush does on his syndicated radio show, the news that such a paragon of sobriety is a mere notch or two above a low-rent crack addict is, well, startling.

The Daily News confirmed that the Palm Beach County state attorney's office is investigating Cline's charges, including an allegation that she was paid $120,000 in "Rush hush" money.

Curse the sordidness and duplicity of the "liberal media" for pouncing on a story of such questionable provenance with such unabashed joy. Whatever happened to the idea that prominent men were considered innocent until proven guilty? What do you mean "Ask Bill Clinton?"

Oh, never mind. We all know it's impossible for a conservative white male Christian with the normal racial hang-ups of his class to get a fair hearing in America these days.

Still, the allegation that Rush has been "under the influence" would shine a light on some of his more bigoted comments over the years. Maybe he doesn't consider himself a bigot because it isn't really "him" doing the talking.

In the early '70s, Rush told a black caller to "take that bone out of your nose and call me back." Years later, he quipped, "The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies."

Speaking of black leaders, Rush once opined, "Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" Hilarious stuff, but not necessarily evidence of racism if you're high.

With his track record, who would've thunk that ESPN's Great Ratings Hope would say something offensive about black folks a mere month into his gig as a football commentator?

Honestly, given the volatile nexus of race and sports in America, everybody knew it was coming. Rush was hired by the Disney-owned channel to reel in a portion of his cantankerous radio audience. He's an affirmative action hire for yahoos. ESPN coveted his audience demographics. It would've been irrational for Rush not to throw some red meat their way from time to time.

The question isn't: Why did Rush say something so bigoted on ESPN?

The question is: What took him so long to get around to spouting the same bigoted tripe on ESPN that passes for wit on his radio show every day?
Oct 5th, 2003 11:30 PM
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Oct 5th, 2003 11:22 PM
incurable paranoiac eh. he's not my hero or anything, but he sure beats o'reilly.
Oct 5th, 2003 11:19 PM
Immortal Goat And that just sucks, because I think Bill Maher is very entertaining. We need more cynics in the media.
Oct 5th, 2003 11:14 PM
incurable paranoiac In the great words of Newsfilter:

"If you wear a shirt calling our President a terrorist, that is free speech. If you burn the flag, it's free speech. If you take a cross with Jesus hanging from it and submerge it in piss for the sake of "art", that is free speech.

But opposing affirmative action and using the NFL as an example constitutes your head on a platter as does saying the word God in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Welcome to America."



hi. anyone remember what happened to bill maher? isn't this kind of the same thing? free speech is just that- you're free to speak it. if, however, the american public is offended (and advertisers are hesitant to give money to the outlet through which they were offended), it becomes a liability. he's completely free to speak however he wants to speak, but now he's not going to be paid for his speaking.
Oct 5th, 2003 07:34 PM
soundtest What I think is funny is how people are frothing at the mouth over something Vince said that could possibly imply racism, yet the disgusting comments george made are ignored.
Oct 5th, 2003 06:08 PM
VinceZeb ranxer, I am suprised your children have not smothered you in your sleep with a pillow.
Oct 5th, 2003 10:59 AM
El Blanco
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corporate sports are a nearly complete waste of time
What the fuck is a corporate sport? All-Pro accounting? NCL-National Collating League?


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its already been shown by several scientists that staring at a blank wall is better for your health than watching the blinking lights and flashing imagery that is called television and sports are actually worse than that..
I love how you back that up. It certainly doesn't seem like this was just another pathetic cry for attention you are so well known for. Just how far up your ass did you have to reach to get that?

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i'd go so far as to assert or accuse corporate sports of encouraging the brainless idea that not rooting for your 'home team' is anti-patriotic.
You obviously don't know football, or pro sports for that matter.
Oct 4th, 2003 11:27 PM
Immortal Goat I wouldn't say Vince is being racist here, but he IS seeming a little ignorant. He can like whatever QB's he wants to, but to say that he is not that good, and some people say he is because he is black, is not a very good way to look at it.

If he had said "He is a mediocre quarterback that gets a lot of crap because of his race", he would have made a bit more sense. As it stands, most of you know more about football than me, but I know enough to say "LIKE WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT TO, BUT DON'T TRY TO TELL OTHERS THEY ARE STUPID FOR DISAGREEING!!"
Oct 4th, 2003 08:58 PM
imported_Hollycaust
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
hollycaust, what the fuck are you even blabbing about?
"too bad so sad tell your dad"
Oct 4th, 2003 05:18 PM
VinceZeb I like how Kelly can drag his knuckles up to the keyboard just enuff to call me a racist.

None of my favorite QBs are black. That is very true. McNair I respect but he is a Titan, so I don't like him. I think McNabb is overhyped and if Vick doesn't do something, he will be the most overhyped player in history sans Brian Bosworth. Kordell Stewart has always sucked. Jeff Blake has a great pass that goes about 40 yards down the field and 100 yards up in the air. Culpepper I like, but he isn't one of my faves. Peete is old.

Now all time, I liked Moon and loved Cunningham, especially with the Vikings.

Would you like to discuss football some more?
Oct 4th, 2003 03:49 PM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Rush is right about McNabb being overrated. He looks shakey in the pocket,
Subjective opinion.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
gets sacked a lot,
There are a number of reasons why a quarterback gets sacked, partcularly is they are a "pocket quarterback". Dan Marino got sacked quite often. So what? It could be the offensive line. It be inexperienced receivers. I've seen McNabb typically get rid of the ball in 2-3 steps, so it's not a release problem. If nothings downfield, then nothings downfield.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
and throws quite a bit of interceptions.
He threw an average of 12 interceptions per year. Certainly not the great but considering that I've seen quarterbacks throw 4-6 in one game, it isn't so bad.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
His Eagles offense is never in the top 5 in total offense.
Neither was the Tampa Bay Bucaneers nor the Baltimore Ravens. You CAN win on defense. That's not to say that McNabb's wins have been due to defense. Their offense leaves a lot to be desired. If anything, he's given them more wins than they would have had otherwise.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Hell, BRAD JOHNSON, a QB considered to be medicore at best, had a higher QB rating than McNabb.
So you're judging his whole career on a bad year? ... and Brad Johnson IS mediocre.

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
NcNabb is overrated.
Again subjective. What proof?

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Is it because he is black? With some people, yes.
Some people = Vinth

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Originally Posted by VinceZeb
Is it because he was hyped to hell? Definetly.
Good performance doesn't equal hype. Good performance gains you notoriety. Is that your definition of hype?
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