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Mar 11th, 2004 02:14 PM
Perndog Depleted uranium is not dangerously radioactive (it is dangerous because it is a heavy metal and if it gets in the air it causes uranium poisoning, same as lead poisoning), and if it is the only questionable material contained in those missiles this is an even dumber story than I thought.
Mar 11th, 2004 11:10 AM
Zhukov
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Originally Posted by Bobo Adobo
You can find russian made assault rifles in most drug dealers closets...

The AK47 is the most mass produced and distributed rifle ever.
Wha is this for? Who doesn't know? I will take it as a joke. I was insinuating things.

First of all of these air-air missiles (like AK's) are well known to be in the Iraqi arsenal, and in the arsenal of about 50 other countries around the world. Its not much of a find. It's like saying "American student finds Iraq on the map"... it's a big deal for desperate morons but not for anyone else.

Their warhead uses Depleted Uranium, as do warheads of several US air-air missiles. To use this as some sort of a WMD argument is absolutely nuts. Thats like saying M829A1 sabot rounds of US tanks are WMD becuase they are made of DU, or even better, saying a Boeing 747 is a WMD becasue it has DU ballast in its tail. EVERYONE knows Iraq had those missiles and they were perfectly legal to have.

Iraqi aircraft have fired AA-8 missiles against Iranian aircraft. I can give you pictures of them from the 70's if anybody doesn't believe me.

I'm sure saddam could have launched a massive attack on Isreal with outdated russian AA missiles. OR EVEN THE US.

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U.S. bomb experts noted the R-60 warheads are similar in design and content to a so-called "dirty bomb" that could contaminate a small area with radioactive materials

And with a few tweeks, those same missiles could be used as close range dirty bomb nukes. Western Support Countrys around the area would feel the pain.
Jesus Christ! The whole place is already contaminated! The type of damage that these "dirty bombs" could do can already bee seen on the Iraqi population and the US soldiers. From US weapons of mass destruction to be precise.

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The government is already supplying us with baseball caps.
Fucking hilarious
Mar 11th, 2004 10:19 AM
Helm Yes. And go look at afghanistan. Or serbia. What have those attacks achieved in the long run?
Mar 11th, 2004 09:47 AM
mesobe yes. the war was very successful! Iraq now is full of chaos, a constant flow of suicide bombers and more us troops being killed even though the "war" has been over for quite some time. There is even a fucking wall around Israel.

there was no WMD and the people of Iraq are hardly liberated or safe if when everytime I turn on the TV another Iraqi police station or shrine was blown up.
Mar 11th, 2004 09:36 AM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun
Exactly, his findings led him to believe that war was justified.
No, his findings led him to believe that the Bush administration at best mislead the American people, to the point that he has encouraged the President to publicly come clean over it.

Personally, Kay seems pleased with the outcome of the war, which is certainly a very valid, liberal stance to hold. Bush on the other hand ran as a conservative, not a nation builder, and I hope his conservative base is smart enough to see that neo-cons like you Mr. Raygun are going to drive their party into the ground.
Mar 11th, 2004 08:53 AM
AChimp We Canadians are going to disguise ourselves as Americans and go south to vote for Kerry on Election Day. Just wait and see.

The government is already supplying us with baseball caps.
Mar 11th, 2004 04:22 AM
Dole I think the only reason you have posted all these Kerry threads lately is because you are seriously scared he would win.
Mar 10th, 2004 06:39 PM
Ronnie Raygun Exactly, his findings led him to believe that war was justified.

If you are going to use David Kay as a source, it's really not going to help your cause. You'll break even at best, and it will take more than "breaking even" to beat Bush.
Mar 10th, 2004 06:25 PM
mburbank You're quite right about that last bit. In fact, He's urged the Preident to admit, as he has, that he was wrong. He just thinks it was justified anyway. But see, he didn't take the country to war. 'Cause he's not the President. So his feeling that it doesn't matter that we were wrong is moot. His factual findings on the other hand (or lack there of) are not. Because he's a weapons inspector.

I will find and post the David Kay stuff on the Clinton Administrations strike on Iraq, but not tonight. I'm off to speak with the press.
Mar 10th, 2004 06:05 PM
Ronnie Raygun "Check David Kays report. The last time Clinton bombed Iraq destroyed the last remaining WMD program related activities." - Max

That's funny...I didn't see that......I remember Clinton himself saying that though. Why don't you post that for us?

"That's not me saying it, it's David Kay." - Max

Since you're such a fan of David Kay why don't you also mention the fact that he said he supported the war in Iraq and that he thinks it was the right thing to do despite no WMD have been found?
Mar 10th, 2004 04:06 PM
Bobo Adobo
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Originally Posted by Zhukov


Russian designed assault rifles foud in Iraq.

The discovery is not, however, considered the long-sought "smoking gun" of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
You can find russian made assault rifles in most drug dealers closets...

The AK47 is the most mass produced and distributed rifle ever.
Mar 10th, 2004 03:54 PM
mburbank Check David Kays report. The last time Clinton bombed Iraq destroyed the last remaining WMD program related activities.

That's not me saying it, it's David Kay. The most recent destruction of Iraqui weapons capabilities occured during the Clinton administration, and as far as Kay could determine, the last vestige of Iraqs weapons program was destroyed during that mission.
Mar 10th, 2004 03:40 PM
Ronnie Raygun "This definitely validates Dubya's assertions that there were MASSIVE stockpiles of chemical weapons in Iraq that could be used to strike at the heart of America at any second." - GAsux

WoW! Just just pretended like Clinton and the U.N. security counsel didn't say the same exact thing. Nice going.....
Mar 10th, 2004 03:36 PM
DamnthatDavid Redesigned to launch from the surface.

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U.S. bomb experts noted the R-60 warheads are similar in design and content to a so-called "dirty bomb" that could contaminate a small area with radioactive materials
And with a few tweeks, those same missiles could be used as close range dirty bomb nukes. Western Support Countrys around the area would feel the pain.

On a side note, I'm jealous. Everywhere in the world their is a free flow of AK-47s, but do I get one for the low low price of 10 bucks? Nope! Damn.
Mar 10th, 2004 03:16 PM
mesobe I heard on the news that these very same weapons had rocket fuel in them and that they *could* possibly work if they were fired.
Mar 10th, 2004 02:27 PM
AChimp The Iraqis would have to get some planes before they started worrying about how to fly them.
Mar 10th, 2004 01:13 PM
Perndog Air to air missiles and air to surface missiles. In order for those to be dangerous, the Iraqis would have to be able to get planes off the ground and fly them somewhere without setting off a dozen other countries' alarms, now wouldn't they?

Worthless. If this is true and gets real press, it might cause a stir but it doesn't have any significance outside the minds of the easily influenced.
Mar 10th, 2004 11:34 AM
Dole If they look hard enough, they would probably find UK/US made weapons components. The nations who make this shit dont give a fuck who buys it. My sis is involved in a court case where and indonesian national is suing the UK government for selling weapons to the indonesians to use against their own people.
Finding weapons built by any of the larger weapons producing nations is hardly a newsflash, is it?
Mar 10th, 2004 11:09 AM
mesobe man who cares. using uranium in anti-aircraft and and anti-vehicle weapons is common practice. There were stories in the news during and after the first war about americans becoming sick from their own uranium tipped weapons.

Next they are going to say that Iraq is more dangerous because the weapons they do find are made of metal... simular to like how WMD are made!
Mar 10th, 2004 10:34 AM
Anonymouse This is great news. I hope there is a world war and everyone dies.
Mar 10th, 2004 10:09 AM
mburbank We'll see if anyone else picks it up....

If they do and it turns out to be true, I think it's a significant find that will hurt democrats and help America and it's allies.


Huh. If they do, if it truns out to be true. You're right. Something to think about.

Kind of like the story that the US kidnapped Aristide.

Or the Weekly World News expose about the Sadam/Bin Laden gay marriage.

Or the Easter Bunny. Just think of the ramifications should major news outlets picked up the story and it turned out to be true.
Mar 10th, 2004 09:52 AM
AChimp THIS JUST IN!

MUSKETS AND BLACKPOWDER KEG FOUND IN IRAQI FARMER'S HOME!!!
Mar 9th, 2004 10:41 PM
Zhukov
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I'm not anti-Russian.
I didn't mean to imply that you were. Sorry.


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I think it's funny that they were against the war in Iraq and now we find this.
There was a poll around the end of 2003 that stated that alot of Russians wanted the war to go ahead. Although, yes, I do realise that their leaders didn't want it to happen. Strange stuff!


Russian designed assault rifles foud in Iraq.

The discovery is not, however, considered the long-sought "smoking gun" of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.
Mar 9th, 2004 10:35 PM
GAsux
Yes

Thank god! The boys are coming home! We found rockets! Hooray! This definitely validates Dubya's assertions that there were MASSIVE stockpiles of chemical weapons in Iraq that could be used to strike at the heart of America at any second. You know, the 15 year old plus bombs that had some radioactivity?

I shudder to think what might have happened had we waited another day to go to warm. God only knows how narrowly we escaped almost certain disaster.
Mar 9th, 2004 10:31 PM
Ronnie Raygun We'll see if anyone else picks it up....

If they do and it turns out to be true, I think it's a significant find that will hurt democrats and help America and it's allies.
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