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Apr 7th, 2004 02:48 AM
Supafly345 It's geared towards flakey, desperate women.
Apr 7th, 2004 12:06 AM
Brandon
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Originally Posted by Perndog
It didn't say that, but it sure implied it; think of the average, impressionable reader swallowing two paragraphs about how being in a relationship is better than being single, without hearing the other side of the story at all.
Ok, fair enough.

The article did appear in Psychology Today, though, so I doubt it was geared toward the average, impressionable reader.
Apr 6th, 2004 11:58 PM
Perndog It didn't say that, but it sure implied it; think of the average, impressionable reader swallowing two paragraphs about how being in a relationship is better than being single, without hearing the other side of the story at all.
Apr 6th, 2004 11:45 PM
Brandon
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Originally Posted by Perndog
It's promoting codependence by saying that most people need a committed partner to live happily or be fulfilled ("Committed partners have it all over singles"), meaning any single and lonely person who takes this advice to heart will never be satisfied without such a relationship.
I didn't think it went as far as saying that satisfaction is impossible without a relationship.
Apr 6th, 2004 11:15 PM
Anonymous Stop it
Apr 6th, 2004 11:09 PM
Emu seriously
Apr 6th, 2004 11:08 PM
Anonymous Stop staring at me.
Apr 6th, 2004 11:06 PM
Emu Computers make better girlfriends than women. And sex is a lot tinglier.








fuck
Apr 6th, 2004 11:05 PM
Perndog It's promoting codependence by saying that most people need a committed partner to live happily or be fulfilled ("Committed partners have it all over singles"), meaning any single and lonely person who takes this advice to heart will never be satisfied without such a relationship.
Apr 6th, 2004 10:53 PM
Anonymous AW SHIT GUYS HERE IT COMES
Apr 6th, 2004 10:51 PM
Gurlugon
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Originally Posted by ArrowX
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Originally Posted by Protoclown
I didn't really see the point of the article to be promoting co-dependancy at all, rather what I got out of it was that nobody should expect a perfect relationship to fall into their lap. We are unhappy because of what we expect.
Agreed.

I think that bit about "connecting to the human condition" pissed off the egoists, though.
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Apr 6th, 2004 10:49 PM
ArrowX
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Originally Posted by ArtificialBrandon
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Originally Posted by Protoclown
I didn't really see the point of the article to be promoting co-dependancy at all, rather what I got out of it was that nobody should expect a perfect relationship to fall into their lap. We are unhappy because of what we expect.
Agreed.

I think that bit about "connecting to the human condition" pissed off the egoists, though.
As Do I
Apr 6th, 2004 10:39 PM
executioneer "being in a relationship" apparently means "being codependent" :/

-willie
Apr 6th, 2004 01:47 PM
Brandon How the hell is that "promoting co-dependence?" The article just gave the positive aspects of being in a committed relationship. It didn't say that spouses have to drop all autonomy just because they need to make compromises.
Apr 6th, 2004 01:03 PM
Perndog
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Yet commitment and marriage offer real physical and financial rewards. Touting the benefits of marriage may sound like conservative policy rhetoric, but nonpartisan sociological research backs it up: Committed partners have it all over singles, at least on average. Married people are more financially stable, according to Linda Waite, a sociologist at the University of Chicago and a coauthor of The Case for Marriage: Why Married People are Happier, Healthier and Better Off. Both married men and married women have more assets on average than singles; for women, the differential is huge.

The benefits go beyond the piggy bank. Married people, particularly men, tend to live longer than people who aren’t married. Couples also live better: When people expect to stay together, says Waite, they pool their resources, increasing their individual standard of living. They also pool their expertise—in cooking, say, or financial management. In general, women improve men’s health by putting a stop to stupid bachelor tricks and bugging their husbands to exercise and eat their vegetables. Plus, people who aren’t comparing their partners to someone else in bed have less trouble performing and are more emotionally satisfied with sex. The relationship doesn’t have to be wonderful for life to get better, says Waite: The statistics hold true for mediocre marriages as well as for passionate ones.

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A committed relationship allows you to drop pretenses and seductions, expose your weaknesses, be yourself—and know that you will be loved, warts and all.
Promoting co-dependence.
Apr 5th, 2004 11:16 PM
CLAspinster On a loosely related note, has anyone read "Urban Tribes"?
Apr 5th, 2004 07:49 PM
Brandon
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Originally Posted by Protoclown
I didn't really see the point of the article to be promoting co-dependancy at all, rather what I got out of it was that nobody should expect a perfect relationship to fall into their lap. We are unhappy because of what we expect.
Agreed.

I think that bit about "connecting to the human condition" pissed off the egoists, though.
Apr 5th, 2004 06:53 PM
Protoclown I didn't really see the point of the article to be promoting co-dependancy at all, rather what I got out of it was that nobody should expect a perfect relationship to fall into their lap. We are unhappy because of what we expect.
Apr 5th, 2004 04:30 PM
kellychaos Well, that would do it. :/
Apr 5th, 2004 03:25 PM
ziggytrix I was married once. It was OK til she had an affair, then shit got weird.
Apr 5th, 2004 01:20 AM
sadie tl,dr
Apr 4th, 2004 08:54 PM
The One and Only... The Fountainhead will work, too. All of Rand's novels involve the "Randian hero" - the individualist genius who is shunned by society.
Apr 4th, 2004 07:33 PM
Perndog Someday I'll read Atlas Shrugged and I'll understand that.

I read The Fountainhead, though. Be a little more versatile, use more references from that.

Oh, and this is obligatory: You're a nerd.
Apr 4th, 2004 01:19 PM
The One and Only... If ever there were a perfect moment for a :johngalt, it would be now.
Apr 4th, 2004 12:18 PM
Perndog This article advocates co-dependence, as if no one can live a happy life as a bachelor or a spinster. So what if statistics show that married people live longer. Doesn't mean their lives were any better, and I'd rather have a great seventy years than a mediocre eighty. Not to mention their statistics were probably 55%/45% in favor of married people or something. Fuck'em.

Finally, BULLSHIT if you think this society is hell-bent on individual achievement and autonomy. Everyone wants you to join a club, support the community, etc. etc. etc. Autonomy gets you weird looks.
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