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Sep 13th, 2003 10:23 PM
Zhukov
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2) start your own. I'm sure our military will be more than happy to eliminate you if you decide to number 2.
I'm trying. Thanks for your concern.
Sep 13th, 2003 02:47 PM
VinceZeb Zhukov, you can read. *Suprise Suprise*

Like I stated before: If you believe that communism is so great, either 1) move to a communist state or 2) start your own. I'm sure our military will be more than happy to eliminate you if you decide to number 2.
Sep 13th, 2003 12:38 PM
Zhukov FS, have you noticed that communism is run by stupid-ass asian-'froed murderers and the legions of dumbasses that would turn them in for a 6 pack of Mallomars?
Sep 12th, 2003 02:32 PM
FS And Zhukov, have you noticed, as I have told Vince time and time again, that Communism is not an immortal supervillain from the planet Prfgtlz that seeks to purge the earth for the coming of his genetically engineered master race?
Sep 12th, 2003 10:49 AM
Zhukov
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anyway: Zhukov, have you noticed how many people are piling on makeshift rafts, braving shark infested waters, starvation, disease, and tons of other things that could easily kill them? All this just so they can grab a hold of Miami Beach.

Do these sound like people living in a paradise?

No, it doesn't sound like paradise. Not to me, or any other straight thinking person. I wish Vince, and now you, would lay off on putting words into my mouth.

You know what, apart from that little kid who got seperated from his dad, I haven't noticed as many people 'escaping' as you are saying. I am not denying them, I just really haven't noticed them.

Anyway: El Blanco, have you noticed how large amounts of Cuban refugees used to be allowed legaly to enter the US? And have you noticed that the amount allowable is dropping vastly each year? Have you noticed how US sitcoms like "Friends" are beamed into Cuban television channels, (to show how every lucky US citizen lives their life) free of charge? Have you also noticed that the "US intrests building" in Cuba encourages people to flee 'by any means possible'? Have you noticed that the US pays Cubans to escape 'by any means possible', even after reducing the number allowed in legaly? Have you noticed that large amounts of Mexicans illegaly enter the US, despite the fact that their country is not a "Communist country"? Have you noticed that any other illegal immigrants from neighbouring US countries are treated like dirt, while illegal immigrants from Cuba are given houses and health care?

And FS, have you noticed that it was 100+ MILLION IN THE LAST DECADE!?
Sep 11th, 2003 01:59 PM
FS Dammit, I wanted to make a "FAGS, DON'T YOU REALIZE COMMUNISM KILLED 100+ MILLION PEOPLE" post in Vince's absence, but apparently he's not absent.
Sep 11th, 2003 01:16 PM
KevinTheOmnivore
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Istead, it was made a lousy booze.

anyway: Zhukov, have you noticed how many people are piling on makeshift rafts, braving shark infested waters, starvation, disease, and tons of other things that could easily kill them? All this just so they can grab a hold of Miami Beach.

Do these sound like people living in a paradise?
And again, this should be observed for what it is. It's a desire to live in a free society, one with a presumably unlimited potential for upward mobility. It's literally a desire to live in the land of milk and honey....

This however doesn't change the fact that people in Cuba are not impoverished, they are not starving, and they are not poorly educated (at least not any more or less in relation to those problems here in America). People aren't wealthy in Cuba, that's for certain. But there's virtually no homelessness, and many basic needs are covered.

This, IMO, is as ideal as a Communist type of system can be. Is it preferable to ours? Not in my opinion....
Sep 11th, 2003 12:35 PM
El Blanco Istead, it was made a lousy booze.

anyway: Zhukov, have you noticed how many people are piling on makeshift rafts, braving shark infested waters, starvation, disease, and tons of other things that could easily kill them? All this just so they can grab a hold of Miami Beach.

Do these sound like people living in a paradise?
Sep 11th, 2003 11:30 AM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by Jeanette X
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Or perhaps a country with a bald eagle as its national symbol, when in fact, they have next to none left.
The status of the Bald Eagle has improved considerably. In 1995 it was removed from the endangered species list and reclassified into the less dire catagory of "threatened" in most areas.

And as for turkeys, the bird was named after the country, not the other way around.
Ironic that these two comments coincided. Before making the bald eagle our national symbol, Ben Franklin was on a campaign to make the wild turkey our national bird. No lie. Look it up!
Sep 11th, 2003 11:18 AM
mburbank Hey, Vinth, will you drool if I ring a bell?
Sep 11th, 2003 09:29 AM
Zhukov I would, but the party has 'phone cable rationing', only those with influences have acces to the internet - so I wouldn't be able to read your pearls of wisdom.
Sep 11th, 2003 07:37 AM
VinceZeb zhukov, cuba is a fine place. Why don't you go take residence up there since you suck the dick of every communist warlord that comes up the pike.
Sep 11th, 2003 01:22 AM
Zhukov I thought it was an emu :/


I would have thought it silly to say that an embargo has kept McDonalds from setting up shop in Cuba, I didn't think they would have wanted to go there in the first place. :/


Vast amounts of starving Cubans? Oh, OK, whatever Vince.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:45 AM
KevinTheOmnivore And if he isn't, you could always just GE a smile onto his face for him.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:38 AM
Big Papa Goat I forgive you. Did you know the osterich in my avatar is genetically engineered? And he looks pretty happy to me.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:35 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Sorry.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:32 AM
Big Papa Goat I liked everything you said before except the GE mutant food bit.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:30 AM
KevinTheOmnivore Shut up.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:28 AM
imported_Hollycaust Oh my bad, Steve Irwin.

Made me laugh.

Just two more months.

Now doesn't this just make you damn proud.

But I do admit that whole 9/11 incident was completely embarassing.
Sep 11th, 2003 12:11 AM
KevinTheOmnivore The vast amounts of starving people in Cuba is an interesting argument, because while I sincerely know that I'd rather live in a free society, it seems silly to argue that Castro is starving everyone to death. Fact is, Cubans are right there with us in statistics such as IMR, health, age expectations, etc. If Cubans are starving to death, what's happening here...? In many ways, the embargo has helped Cuba, because it has kept American GE mutant products and fast food chains out of the country. It has enabled them to boost their agricultural sector.

Now, again, I'd rather live in a society with more potential of upward mobility, as well as one where I have at least the option to eat that nasty McDonald's food, but you get the point.
Sep 10th, 2003 11:34 PM
El Blanco I never liked the sanctions against Cube. While I do think Castro is bleeding that country dry, we are the only country that won't trade with him. Now, he just lets cameras look at the peope he is starving and saying "Look at what America does to us". Even if everyother country is doing billions of dollars in trading, it is still bad PR for us.

At least now we can talk to him about human rights.
Sep 10th, 2003 11:29 PM
Jeanette X
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Or perhaps a country with a bald eagle as its national symbol, when in fact, they have next to none left.
The status of the Bald Eagle has improved considerably. In 1995 it was removed from the endangered species list and reclassified into the less dire catagory of "threatened" in most areas.

And as for turkeys, the bird was named after the country, not the other way around.
Sep 10th, 2003 11:11 PM
AChimp Or perhaps a country with a bald eagle as its national symbol, when in fact, they have next to none left.
Sep 10th, 2003 10:26 PM
imported_Hollycaust Ok, that makes it up a wee bit. The only thing sadder than the leaf is a country being named after a bird that folks eat up on Nov. 27.
Sep 10th, 2003 10:22 PM
Big Papa Goat We also have the beaver!
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