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Feb 27th, 2004 11:31 PM
phnompehn
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Actually, I have cable TV as well as cable internet access. ITs only recently that I've had it. I still know lots of people who don't have it and I don't think I know anyone with satelite radio.

Its not because I've lived in a large metro area most of my life that makes me think everyone outside of here doesn't have it, just that I know many people in many regions who don't spend their money on something thats not that nessacery.

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P.S.- Over 180 million Americans have internet access, by the way, so yeah, it is "all that common" here.
People or households? And what exactly defines their internet access?
Look, all I was saying was that I feel that one day, probably within the next 20 years, satellite radio (And other such premium services) will do for radio what cable (Again, including other comparable services) did for TV. You obviously have no idea what cable did for TV (I'll give you a hint: it has to do with the FCC and a thing called "Standards and Practices").

I know that the vast majority of Americans have both cable and a form of internet access, be it in their home or through a library (Eitherway, it's still access).

I know some people don't have cable. I have a friend who doesn't have it. It's cool.

Now, to clearify my point: The near-monopoly of CC, and the tighter restrictions of the FCC will encourage the growth of premium subscriptions to XM or Sirius.
Feb 27th, 2004 04:30 PM
kellychaos I'm torn. On the one hand I'm upset about the censorship measures that the FCC is taking and, on the other hand, I'm annoyed that my local Inifinity affiliate is NOT under Clear Channel so Howard Stern's cancellation would open up another time slot for someone to which I DO enjoy listening. :/
Feb 27th, 2004 02:41 PM
El Blanco Actually, I have cable TV as well as cable internet access. ITs only recently that I've had it. I still know lots of people who don't have it and I don't think I know anyone with satelite radio.

Its not because I've lived in a large metro area most of my life that makes me think everyone outside of here doesn't have it, just that I know many people in many regions who don't spend their money on something thats not that nessacery.

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P.S.- Over 180 million Americans have internet access, by the way, so yeah, it is "all that common" here.
People or households? And what exactly defines their internet access?
Feb 27th, 2004 12:05 PM
punkgrrrlie10 I never liked Stern. I always thought his humor was stupid and monotonous so by about the 3rd time I heard one of his shows I just stopped listening.

Unfortunately, he wasn't banned here in LA b/c I can hear my uncle listening to him in the other room.

I guess the FCC doesn't care about our morals.
Feb 27th, 2004 11:04 AM
mburbank I'm not sure I even see this as a free speech issue.

CC is a private corporation, they can do what they want with their content.

They only owned six stations that ran stern so the impact is smll in any case.

HERE's the problem. The FCC under Michael Powell accepts huge amounts of free booty from big corps like CC. They are working hard to ease regulation so that huge Corps like CC can eat up more of the market and preesumably give Powell more lifestyle assistance. Huge Corps like CC and Powell become beholden to each other, mutual parasites. Powell can tell them what to do if they want to see him keep prssuring for deregulation.

Suppose CC owned say 4/5 of the radio stations. That's around what they own of major pwerformance venues right now, so it's a good figure. Then the government and not the market would be able to determine your access to Howard Stern. Or anyone else. And if you think that's limmited to poo-poo Kaa Kaa, I think you're wrong.
Feb 27th, 2004 10:25 AM
Perndog Yeah, really. Just about everyone in the US has cable or satellite TV and the five people who don't have Internet access in their homes yet (plus all the people who don't even have homes) log on from Internet cafes. In the area where I grew up northern Minnesota, 20 miles from the nearest town with a population of 400, everyone was online and they installed DSL equipment out in the sticks last year.

Blanco, have you lived in the middle of the city all your life and just assume that people who don't live in metropolitan centers don't live modern lives? Or what?
Feb 27th, 2004 09:45 AM
AChimp
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Originally Posted by Bobo Adobo
No, Everything thats bad that has ever happened is always blamed on Chimps.
SEE? The movie has turned you anti-chimp.
Feb 27th, 2004 07:49 AM
phnompehn
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
Are you going to answer the question? Because what you just did was pretty fucking useless.

Just because you and your neighbors have it doesn't mean everyone else does.

Its like internet access, just because everyone on the board has it, doesn't mean its all that common in the US.
Dude, how isolated are you from society? 60-70% of Americans have cable and/or other premium television services (I.E. Direct TV, etc.). I've lived in three completely different parts of the country (Rhode Island, Florida, and California), and everywhere I go, I see a majority of people with cable. From ghettos to developments, they've all had cable. I think it's better to say that just because you don't have cable (Which I'm assuming about you because you're being such a dick about it), doesn't mean that neither does everyone else.

P.S.- Over 180 million Americans have internet access, by the way, so yeah, it is "all that common" here.
Feb 26th, 2004 10:31 PM
Perndog Oh yeah, I forgot racial slurs.
Feb 26th, 2004 08:21 PM
Ant10708 They are blaming the suspension because some caller said ******. Stern is being censored somewhat but its not censoring freedom of speech. He still can go on cable TV, satellite radio, publish a book, make a CD. Clear channle has the right to not allow him on but its bullshit that all fo sudden they act now. Fucking janet jackson had to get all the grannies angry during the super bowl.

I hate the FCC. I loved Opie and Anthony.

I don't know how many people have cable TV but I do know broadband isn't in a majority of homes so I assume its the same with cable TV well actually alot more people proably have cable TV since its been around longer.
I live in a wealthy section of Long Island and I know people who don't have cable so I don't know.
Feb 26th, 2004 08:19 PM
thebiggameover from what i understand, cc droped him because they are under fire from the fcc. stern didn't even do anything diffrent than he does most days. cc got rid of him to get the fcc of there back. he is still on all [bad spelling(maybe)]infinity[bad spelling(maybe)] outlets its just those 6 cc ones hes off of...
Feb 26th, 2004 08:07 PM
El Blanco Anything that describes sexual acts or extrement functions in detail is what I think are the technical no-nos.
Feb 26th, 2004 07:55 PM
Perndog
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Originally Posted by Mighty Max
Does clear channel broadcast politucal and religous shows? 'Cause I've found some of those to be frequently blatantly offensive. Do they broadcast Limbaugh, Davage, Dr. Laura, Pat Robertson?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but this is my take: offensive, as far as the FCC is concerned (at least from what I've notice), equals foul or overly sexual language, anti-American ideas, and anti-Christian ideas. Everything else is acceptable.
Feb 26th, 2004 07:24 PM
El Blanco Are you going to answer the question? Because what you just did was pretty fucking useless.

Just because you and your neighbors have it doesn't mean everyone else does.

Its like internet access, just because everyone on the board has it, doesn't mean its all that common in the US.
Feb 26th, 2004 06:33 PM
phnompehn
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
How many people in this country have cable?
A better question is how many people in this country don't have cable?
Feb 26th, 2004 06:26 PM
El Blanco I just remembered some of the blatant hypocracy Stern shows.

A few weeks ago, he apparently threatened to sue someone who made snide remarks about him and his girlfriend.

Then there was how he got Mel Karmicak to put pressure on Opie and Anthony to stop taking shots at him on their show, even they he didn't let up on his. Never mind the fact that there was a clause in O&A's contract that was supposed to prevent that sort of thing.

So, why is he bitching about freedom of speech?
Feb 26th, 2004 05:47 PM
Drew Katsikas
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Originally Posted by mburbank
Howard stern is very smart, very powerful ,very cagey, he has a huge audience and he makes giant profits for those who hire him. I think Clear Channel may have made a serious mistake.
There goes Max, again. Always supporting his people.

But seriously, what was the offense in question?
Feb 26th, 2004 05:42 PM
El Blanco
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This whole thing is just another reason that satelite radio will become more popular. It'll do for radio what cable did for TV. No FCC, just sponsers who decide what the content should be.
How many people in this country have cable?
Feb 26th, 2004 02:41 PM
phnompehn I listened to the broadcast on tuesday. A caller said "******" and they disconnected him. The FCC claims that they should have bleeped it out though. They were just looking for a reason to get at Stern. A few years ago, he was sued for 1.7 mil by the FCC.

This whole thing is just another reason that satelite radio will become more popular. It'll do for radio what cable did for TV. No FCC, just sponsers who decide what the content should be.

EDIT:
I'm in an wealthy, elderly, ultra-conservative, bible-thumping part of Florida (I'm a victim of circumstance and cheap college tuition). I'll have to check if he's cancelled in my area (Naples) tomorrow morning.
Feb 26th, 2004 01:48 PM
Bobo Adobo No, Everything thats bad that has ever happened is always blamed on Chimps.
Feb 26th, 2004 01:41 PM
AChimp They're trying to cater to the little old lady market. Personally, I think that everything bad that happens can now be blamed on The Passion of Christ.
Feb 26th, 2004 12:57 PM
Brandon I'm stunned. How the hell can you cancel Howard Stern?

Does CC think this bold little move is going to win a lot of public support?
Feb 26th, 2004 12:46 PM
ranxer clear channel stifles political dissent everywhere it can then hosts rush limbaugh and others of the fundamentalist slant.

i heard political activist/musician Billy Bragg talking about clear channel he was saying 'thank goodness we don't have them over here in the UK', then he called his agent to tell him to stay away from clear channel stations.. oops says his agent .. um, 'our agency was just bought out by clear channel!' the bastards are already in europe
Feb 26th, 2004 12:17 PM
Bobo Adobo FCC and Clear Channel need to be stopped. Not only is Clear Channel knocking us back into the 50s with censorship crap, but there clogging up our radio with their syndicated corperate MTV stations, and they own most of the major venues for concerts. Making performers exclusivly play Clear Channel venues, and regulatiing ticket prices. Just another corperation thats ruining Music and entertainment today.(Viacom, Ticket Bastard, Etc.)

I don't even think I should have to get into the FCC, concidering any organization thats going to spend tax dollars on a boob investigation is a shlock no matter how you look at it.
Feb 26th, 2004 12:14 PM
mesobe the radio fucking sucks anyways. Its offensive to me when they play the same music over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and again.
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