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Mar 13th, 2004 01:04 PM
mesobe blah blah blah blah
Mar 13th, 2004 12:53 PM
Helm no, shut the fuck up. Do you understand? Shut, the fuck, up.
Mar 13th, 2004 12:40 PM
mesobe or bitch about how every thread sucks.
Mar 13th, 2004 12:38 PM
Helm You're supposed to shut the fuck up, mesobe.

Thank you.
Mar 13th, 2004 12:10 PM
mesobe why talk about anything?

its a fucking forum. what the hell else are we suppose to do?
Mar 13th, 2004 12:02 PM
Rongi I'm with Mr.Adventure. This thread sucks.

It's not like any of you have any kids of your own. So if none of this shit effects you, why even talk about it?
Mar 13th, 2004 11:42 AM
mesobe yeah no shit... your taste in music, TV and games doesnt create your behavior... its the other way around.

"man, I really want to kill a cop and rape someone.... if I could *just* find the right music and video game to get me in the mood!"
Mar 13th, 2004 11:28 AM
AChimp My psych professor in the summer talked about this and laughed at all the fringe lunatics that claim without a doubt that violence on TV and in games causes violence in people.

See, there's two kinds of relationships between two variables: causal and correlational. With causal, you can definitively say that A caused a change in B. With correlational, you can only say that when you change A, there appears to be an effect on B, but there are extraneous variables so you can't make any conclusion without being laughed at by everyone else. You actually get mad props in the scientific community for admitting that you couldn't come up with anything.

Maybe violent kids are attracted to violent video games and play them more than other people? HAHA THE TABLES HAVE TURNED.
Mar 13th, 2004 10:58 AM
mesobe "video" and "game".

a "video" is a series of moving pictures to give the illusion of animation and "game" is a pretend fun thing.

I was under the assumption that humans were the smartest animal on the planet...
Mar 13th, 2004 08:42 AM
davinxtk
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Originally Posted by ArrowX
repeated Exposure DESENSITISES us. It doesn't make us walk into the street steal a sportscar then pick up some hookers and kill police! all it does is makes us not guve a damn thats all.
I didn't give a damn in the first place.
In fact, after reading your post, I care even less. If that was possible.

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Originally Posted by Chojin
How come you never see anything like, "The President of Rockstar Games, when asked for comment, forcefully gripped his abdomen and cackled until a co-worker calmed him with a few pats on the back and a glass of water."
Because for some reason video game companies pretend to give a shit about public opinion. I'd be all over the cackling scene.
Mar 13th, 2004 04:02 AM
Anonymous How come you never see anything like, "The President of Rockstar Games, when asked for comment, forcefully gripped his abdomen and cackled until a co-worker calmed him with a few pats on the back and a glass of water."
Mar 13th, 2004 01:30 AM
ArrowX repeated Exposure DESENSITISES us. It doesn't make us walk into the street steal a sportscar then pick up some hookers and kill police! all it does is makes us not guve a damn thats all.
Mar 12th, 2004 06:45 PM
davinxtk They apologized for it because they're already in enough hot water over the violent content of the videogame, they didn't need someone calling them racists.

I didn't read your article, but whatever group of Hatians complained about it needs to realize that by associating themselves with, quite literally, the street gang in the video game they discredit their argument entirely
Mar 12th, 2004 02:45 PM
phnompehn Well, I knew how much your existence has in common with wastes of time, so I thought you'd love it.
Mar 12th, 2004 01:54 PM
Supafly345 What a waste of time this thread is.
Mar 12th, 2004 10:39 AM
MrAdventure borka borka borka rehashing shit bork bork americans have tried to get abork away with abork bork saying for bork bork ages now
Mar 12th, 2004 08:17 AM
phnompehn Here it is. Didn't realize it was so old.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/fun.gam....ap/index.html
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Suit seeks to ban sales of popular video game
Thursday, January 1, 2004 Posted: 10:44 PM EST (0344 GMT)
Haitian community representatives say "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" incites hate crimes.


WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (AP) -- A lawsuit by Haitian groups that asks for the top-selling video game "Grand Theft Auto: Vice City" to be removed from store shelves will be decided in federal court.

Haitian civil rights groups filed the lawsuit because the game instructs players to "kill the Haitians" and awards points for each kill.

The suit was filed December 23 in state circuit court in Palm Beach County. Attorneys for Rockstar Games Inc. opted to move the case to federal court, and that motion was granted Tuesday. No hearing dates were immediately set.

New York-based Rockstar Games has agreed to remove the offensive line from future versions of the award-winning video game that has sold 11 million copies.

But the Haitian organizations, led by the Haitian-American Coalition of Palm Beach County, have also asked for more than $15,000 in damages.

The lawsuit takes on heavyweights in the video game industry, including Rockstar Games, its parent company Take-Two Interactive Software Inc., Sony Computer Entertainment, the Microsoft Corp., and retailers Target, Wal-Mart and Best Buy.

The manufacturer of the game, in which an ex-convict is hired to recover stolen drug money in the streets of Miami, has been harshly criticized for its portrayal of Haitians.

Earlier this month, about 100 Haitian-Americans demonstrated outside a Wal-Mart Supercenter in nearby Boynton Beach chanting, "Stop Vice City."

Attorneys for the Haitian organizations and the video game manufacturer did not return phone calls late Wednesday.
Mar 12th, 2004 08:11 AM
phnompehn
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Originally Posted by davinxtk
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Originally Posted by phnompehn
The only useful information I've ever learned from a video game, was from America's Army (developed and produced by the U.S. Army, funded by tax-payers). Really a pretty graphic and violent game, but no one blames them, right?
Graphic my ass. There's a puff of blood when you shoot someone. Nothing more.
And, finally my tax money went to something I enjoyed.
Ok, ok, it's really not all that violent. My point is that so many right-wing christians complain about violent video games, when their very own military is producing them with tax dollars.

And what's up with those Haitians over in Miami complaining about the "Kill all the Haitians" line in GTA? I can't believe Rockstar actually apologized for it.
Mar 12th, 2004 07:43 AM
davinxtk
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Originally Posted by phnompehn
The only useful information I've ever learned from a video game, was from America's Army (developed and produced by the U.S. Army, funded by tax-payers). Really a pretty graphic and violent game, but no one blames them, right?
Graphic my ass. There's a puff of blood when you shoot someone. Nothing more.
And, finally my tax money went to something I enjoyed.

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Originally Posted by Bobo Adobo
I would blame Marilyn Manson...think they identify with that attention whore.
*cough*
I wouldn't call him an attention whore. More of a calculated and written character marketed to rejects.
The man himself is actually a fairly conservative republican
Mar 10th, 2004 01:08 AM
Bobo Adobo
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Originally Posted by Emu
It's no wonder we're paranoid, with all the Communists breathing down our necks.
I watched the "Atomic Cafe", and theres this part where I think its Nixon and Kruschev talking...

and Kruschev said to Nixon "Only think Americans know about communism is to fear it." And than Nixon just stood there with a puzzled look on his face. I just thought that was funny...
Mar 10th, 2004 01:04 AM
DamnthatDavid Like phnompehn mentioned.
This is starting to sound a hellva lot like BFC, and I agree with many points in that movie.

The U.S. needs scapegoats, needs, drama, and needs fear.

We have had major problems as a country. Editing History to fit our views, ingnoring the problems. Turning the blind eye, and taking the easy way out.
This build up until something snaps.
We caused the problems in Afghanastan, and to lesser extent, Iraq.
Warlords, and Saddam's regieme used this to gain power. To focus general hate against one target. To lessar extent it is happening all over the world. And even we, as a country do it to ourselves.
We blame the biggest target, the Media industry, just like all those other counties blame us.
Mar 9th, 2004 11:27 PM
Emu It's no wonder we're paranoid, with all the Communists breathing down our necks.
Mar 9th, 2004 10:36 PM
El Blanco People act like these school shootings happen every other day. They aren't. The fact that we are so shocked and react so overdramatically shows that these are rare occurances.

Spousal abuse is far more common, but no one wants to ban Monday Night Football (not that I think its related, I'm just using an easy stereotype to make my point).
Mar 9th, 2004 09:11 PM
phnompehn Reading this thread is like watching BFC all over again! Maybe next, we'll go to Canada and check to see if people lock their doors.

Americans are nervous, scared, violent crazies. We shoot each other and then sit back and wonder "Why? Why did this have to happen, and why isn't anyone thinking of the children?!"


Then we move on and develop a suburb or maybe build a mall.
Mar 9th, 2004 08:54 PM
Bobo Adobo
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Originally Posted by mesobe
whoever blames video games and marilyn manson for their childrens problems (or potential problems) are irresponsible and worthless as parents.
I would blame Marilyn Manson. Whenever I listen to him I want to kill him and every american goth kid who listens to that crappola. But nobody really listens to him, they just think they identify with that attention whore.

Japan has the most morbid, violent and desturbing media that exists. Yet the amount of violence in their society is almost non-existant... makes ya think doesn't it?
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