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Sep 5th, 2004 11:52 PM

ScruU2wice

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Originally Posted by The One and Only...

You miss the point.

The importance is not the class I'm taking, but the classes I was required to take before that.

I had to take up to Precalculus, and was planning on taking Calculus afterwards, but it was suggested that I take Stat first so that more information from Calc could be retained.

The average highschool (I'm not in college, but highschool) kid is still taking Geometry - that means that I'm not one, not two, but three years ahead of him. As it currently stands, I'm going to either have to skip my senior year or take an independent studies math class.

In short, fuck you.

You have to be fucking kiddin me.

I took calc last year and my friend who is taking stats with me took algebra 2 last year. The class is not discriminant to what math class you take or have taken.

If you wanna convince anyone you're smart you should really stop the "neener neener neener I'm in AP statistics because I am so smart."

Sep 5th, 2004 11:21 PM

AChimp

He's showing us how smart he is, and therefore, qualified to post here.

Sep 5th, 2004 11:16 PM

Ninjavenom

What does your math level have to do with this, you self-absorbed jerkoff?

Sep 5th, 2004 09:40 PM

AChimp

Induction is a load of shit. Trig was covered in Grade 9. Complex numbers aren't used until second-year calculus, so there's no point in knowing it until then. Vectors was a 2 day lesson because chances are you'll have already done it in physics, and it's basically just trig all over again

You're right, though, I forgot about the trig identities... here's all it takes to learn them:

1. Look at identity.
2. Memorize identity.
3. When in doubt, convert to sine and cosine. Reduce.

Sep 5th, 2004 09:19 PM

The One and Only...

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Originally Posted by AChimp

The average pre-calculus student only learns how to use radians over regular high school math students. That's seriously the only difference.

So... you guys never went over mathematical induction, trig functions, proving trig equations via the identities, vectors, complex numbers (DeMoivre's Theorem, etc...), and logarithms?

Sep 5th, 2004 09:15 PM

AChimp

I forgot about logarithms in pre-calc, but that's because it only takes a single class to memorize the rules, understand what they mean and make a few graphs.

Sep 5th, 2004 09:13 PM

AChimp

The average pre-calculus student only learns how to use radians over regular high school math students. That's seriously the only difference. I know because I took pre-calc math all through high school AND university level calculus in grade 12... none of that AP bullshit.

Statistics is the most ridiculously easy subject in the world. OMG! Calculate the standard deviation! Figure out the probability of that! What's the z value for this?

Quit trying to prove how smart you are by listing the courses you are taking.

Sep 5th, 2004 09:06 PM

MLE

*fap fap fap*

Sep 5th, 2004 09:04 PM

The One and Only...

Sep 5th, 2004 08:41 PM

Hobo Renee

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Originally Posted by The One and Only...

No, but at 162 lbs, I'm hardly fat, and a sophomore taking AP Statistics doesn't count as stupid.

yeah, when I took AP Statistics last year all the teacher did was talk about he ex-wife and chew tobacco while we played card games. That proves nothing.

Sep 5th, 2004 06:57 PM

EvilConserative#1

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Originally Posted by Jeanette X

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

I think that liberals should have to abide by the same laws the rest of Americans do and should not be treated as exceptions to the rule.

I support the police.

The Constitution IS THE LAW. It is the supreme law of the land, and the police have violated it. To be arrested is one thing, but to not be allowed to see a lawyer is another.
I wouldn't object to the arrests if the protesters were treated like any other criminal...that is, allowed to see lawyer, and kept in a dry cell rather than a fucking cage with chemicals everywhere. Not to mention being given food and water and allowed to use the toilet. But they weren't. They weren't treated the same as anyone else. They were mistreated because they were protestors.
It is unAmerican to ignore the Constitutional rights of the protesters, even if they did break the law.

Umm I'm sure they suffered horrably . But atleast it looks like we are taking a step up above the abu-crav lessons . Give me a break, you have you 1st admin right , but you don't have the right to break the law committing your 1st admin rights.Liberals are losing b/c your not thinking . You guys really are making this one too easy .

Sep 5th, 2004 03:27 PM

ziggytrix

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

Jeanette, is there any evidence that supports their claim?

How about Judge John Cataldo who found the city of New York in contempt of court for holding protesters more than the 24 hours New York state law presumptively allows? I mean, we've even got beuracratic paper trails on that one.

State law was violated in order to keep protesters away from the convention. You can say we can't prove the motive, but you cannot argue that we can't prove the crime.

PS You're a prick.

Sep 5th, 2004 12:40 PM

ScruU2wice

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Originally Posted by The One and Only...

No, but at 162 lbs, I'm hardly fat, and a sophomore taking AP Statistics doesn't count as stupid.

I could've taken AP stats freshman year and wouldn't miss a step in that class, it's barely even a fucking math class. You wanna be considered smart? stop talking out of your ass.

Sep 5th, 2004 11:56 AM

Ronnie Raygun

Jeanette, is there any evidence that supports their claim?

Sep 5th, 2004 11:32 AM

The One and Only...

No, but at 162 lbs, I'm hardly fat, and a sophomore taking AP Statistics doesn't count as stupid.

Sep 5th, 2004 11:13 AM

Zhukov

Have you been at fat camp, you fat, stupid, goink?

Sep 5th, 2004 11:04 AM

The One and Only...

So, these stories were taken without any pictures? I'm not going to directly accuse them of lying, but when I hear about burns and rashes, I want to see some evidence.

Sep 5th, 2004 09:59 AM

Jeanette X

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

I think that liberals should have to abide by the same laws the rest of Americans do and should not be treated as exceptions to the rule.

I support the police.

Sep 5th, 2004 08:49 AM

Zhukov

I agree with Ronnie. Normal people don't get to walk the streets, why should Liberals get special treatment?

Put them all in gaol, I say.

Sep 5th, 2004 06:59 AM

Ronnie Raygun

I think that liberals should have to abide by the same laws the rest of Americans do and should not be treated as exceptions to the rule.

I support the police.

Sep 4th, 2004 07:48 PM

Jeanette X

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

I think they should throw the book at any protester who breaks the law.

Good job NYPD!!!

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There are signs everywhere saying we should be wearing masks and goggles; and I have this really bad rash on my hand that's getting worse and worse. It feels like I just stuck my hand in an oven, it burns so bad, and my arms are tingling and my other hand is getting it, too.

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Basically I was just – I was walking on the sidewalk. I didn't even know that there were police and the march was going on. And all of a sudden the street basically just gets cordoned off and we cannot move. So before I was arrested I was just standing still because that's all we could really do. And then they just started putting handcuffs on people. They didn't tell us, please leave otherwise we’ll arrest you. They gave us no warning. They gave us no chance to leave.

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We’ve been in jail for over 13 hours right now. In our first nine hours, the only food we received was an apple. In our first four hours here we weren't allowed to go to the bathroom or get water. So none of us were read our rights; we haven't been able to talk to any lawyers. A lot of people here that were arrested without even protesting, they were -- just happened to be on the sidewalk where everyone was on that block -- was arrested.

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Julia Gross, 20, of Philadelphia, who was held for nearly 30 hours, said the holding area floor was covered with chemicals that burned her skin. Worse, she said, her jailers played loud music by Irish singer Enya.

"They kept saying, 'Isn't this calming?' I never want to hear Enya again," she said.

Ronnie, you douche. Did you even read the article?

Or do you think that the Bill of Rights simply doesn't apply to liberals?

Sep 4th, 2004 07:36 PM

davinxtk

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Raygun

I think they should throw the book at any protester who breaks the law.

Good job NYPD!!!

Someone hasn't been paying attention.

But I wouldn't expect any less out of you, Ronnie.

Sep 4th, 2004 12:42 PM

conus

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If you think this is a fight now, wait until you see what it looks like if these bastards win.

Yeah, I've had this feeling for a while that it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. If it ever gets better. These neo-conservatives have done such a good job of harnessing populist feelings and class rage to cultural issues rather than economic, that a long, Belfast-like civil war isn't beyond the realm of possibility.

Sep 4th, 2004 12:01 PM

Ronnie Raygun

I think they should throw the book at any protester who breaks the law.

Good job NYPD!!!

Sep 3rd, 2004 07:06 PM

mburbank

Excuse me, ENYA?!? ENYA HERE?!? Have they at last no decency? NO DECENY AT ALL?!?

I agree with aspects of both sides of the argument. The arrests were over the top, indiscriminate, and the people were held way too long, almost certainly deliberately.

But up to a point you HOPE the cops treat you badly when you do civil disobedience. Your point tets a lot more widespread attention. Civil rights protestors went knowing they'd face water cannons , dogs and truncheons. Back in the heyday of the union movements Pinkertons would beat you senseless. You did it anyway, and you didn't fight back. That's nonviolence, and the woerse your opponent behaves the better it works.

Legally fighting every aspect of your detention? Good. Take pictures of your chemical burns if you got 'em. But don't be surprised. Things are getting ugly and protests aren't picnics. If you think this is a fight now, wait until you see what it looks like if these bastards win.

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