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Oct 18th, 2004 08:32 PM
Zebra 3
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Originally Posted by kahljorn
They never have... the law that allows you to self medicate explicitly states that you can only order a, "Three month self-medicating supply". Just like pharmacies only give you a one month(or so) supply at a time, eh?
:/ - Granted, but what makes the decision newsworthy is that Canadian provinces themselves buy prescription drugs in bulk.
Oct 18th, 2004 08:23 PM
AChimp I bet you got beat up at school again today, and that's why you're so confused.
Oct 18th, 2004 07:20 PM
The One and Only... If we aren't talking about wholesale exportation, then what exactly are we debating? You can't purchase knock-off perscription drugs in this country, at least not legally. Those are the drugs which cost the most, not Advil and cherry Pepto.

Many of Canada's drugs are made in America.

You're damn right we have a bone to pick with patents. If the chemical makeup is the same, well, it's the exact same thing. Do you really want to reduce the incentive to develop drugs back to zero?

I'm not saying that market competition is bad, but I am saying that reimportation is worthless. Quite frankly, that is the biggest issue here.
Oct 18th, 2004 07:06 PM
kahljorn Good-- but just watch it happen.
Oct 18th, 2004 03:06 PM
HNICPantitude That statement literally makes no sense to me.
Oct 18th, 2004 03:05 PM
kahljorn I don't think everyone will be taking generics... I'm sure the rich people will take the canadian ones and the poor people will stick with american ones. That makes sense, right?
Oct 18th, 2004 03:01 PM
HNICPantitude Canadian Pharmaceutical companies are incapable, in their current state, to handle the volume which they would be bombarded with by increasing their demand tenfold. This type of demand simply can not be met. Additionally, U.S. pharmaceutical companies spend a tremendous amount of money on both R&D and FDA Approvals to take their drugs to market. Then, and only then do a majority of "knock-offs" or generics come to be manufactured in other countries at a cheaper rate. This is simply due to the incredible cost of approval. Aside from cost, placing this type of financial pressure on U.S. pharmaceutical companies will slow down this research and lead to slower progress in medicine in general.
Oct 18th, 2004 02:45 PM
kahljorn They never have... the law that allows you to self medicate explicitly states that you can only order a, "Three month self-medicating supply". Just like pharmacies only give you a one month(or so) supply at a time, eh?
Oct 18th, 2004 11:34 AM
Zebra 3 It's being reported that the Canadian International Pharmacy Association (CIPA), which includes the largest Canadian Internet(s) pharmacies have decided that they will not accept bulk orders of prescription drugs from US states and municipalities.
Oct 18th, 2004 08:57 AM
AChimp OAO is on top of things! He's talking about wholesale export from Canada into the U.S., whereas the article (and generally everything else on the subject) is referring to old people buying their prescriptions over the Internet, meaning they can be living anywhere in the country, not just "near the border."

I have yet to hear of a Canadian pharmacy shipping entire truckloads of drugs to stores in the U.S. Everything is sent in little bottles to individuals who take those pills themselves.
Oct 18th, 2004 08:56 AM
FartinMowler
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Yes, well, america apparantly has a problem with "Patents" because all these other countries usually have their own pharmacutical industry.
I agree. Just like the fucking corrupt goverment bending over for companies like Ford, slowing down technological patent advances, so that you can fight over oil that we really don't need.
Oct 18th, 2004 03:10 AM
kahljorn Yes, well, america apparantly has a problem with "Patents" because all these other countries usually have their own pharmacutical industry.
Oct 18th, 2004 01:55 AM
Ant10708 But we do generate most of the profit used to research those drugs and new ones.
Oct 18th, 2004 12:59 AM
kahljorn You can legally have certain drugs imported from other countries, i have mine imported. It's legal, it's in the law. Go look around! there's smillions of pharmacies online. you could call them middlemen who sell for higher prices.

India produces alot of generic drugs that are cheaper. Nuzac instead of prozac.

"Achimp once again demonstrates his lack of understanding in political matters."

That's why a politician, an aspiring president said he'd make it llegal. I'm sure he'd make accompanying bills and laws. Politicians making political decisions? My lord!

Can we say, "Duh"?

When are you going to shut the fuck up, i hate you. I hate you more than i hate those fucking low carb hamburger raps from carls junior. WHAT THE FUCK ITS JUST LETTUCE AROUND MEAT.

And why do you keep saying "Reimported"? The drugs are actually made in canada, that's why they are cheaper. Contrary to popular belief, drugs are made in other countries, america is not the center of the world's pharmacuticals.
Oct 17th, 2004 07:31 PM
The One and Only...
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Originally Posted by AChimp
Yeah, because sneaky border guards will secretly charge Americans MORE money than they already paid a Canadian pharmacy for, just so that it makes no difference for individuals to import their prescriptions.

OAO once again demonstrates how awesome his high school intellect is.
Achimp once again demonstrates his lack of understanding in political matters.

Sure, you can go to Canada to buy drugs if you live near the border. That's not what I'm talking about, you tard. I'm talking about a general re-importation of drugs and a release of them on the U.S. market.

Those drugs aren't going to cost less just because they were re-imported from Canada. You're drug cost regulations will no longer apply, so there will be no force to prevent the costs from returning to normal U.S. prices.

The only way prices would drop would be if a middle man developed, who bought drugs at lowered prices then resold them at a slightly higher price in order to make a profit. However, I'm pretty sure that there are legal regulations against that from happening as a general market practice, and number two, even if there aren't, pharmaceutical companies would simply quit selling drugs to the middle men after they figured out what was going on. Then, they could strong-arm legal contracts preventing further abuses of the Canadian legal system.
Oct 17th, 2004 04:04 PM
FartinMowler
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You give shit to alot of the americans on this board, even though they can see the flaws of their country.
I feel there frustration :/
Oct 17th, 2004 10:37 AM
AChimp
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Originally Posted by The One and Only...
It just doesn't matter. Re-importing drugs is not going to lower costs. The drugs are only cheaper in Canada because of governmental regulations; as soon as they enter the US, they will return to US market prices.

The Kerry campaign is really starting to piss me off. And you guys say that Bush is misleading.
Yeah, because sneaky border guards will secretly charge Americans MORE money than they already paid a Canadian pharmacy for, just so that it makes no difference for individuals to import their prescriptions.

OAO once again demonstrates how awesome his high school intellect is.
Oct 17th, 2004 08:38 AM
Emu I live in Illinois and I still can't pronounce Blagojevich's name correctly.
Oct 17th, 2004 07:57 AM
Zhukov
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Originally Posted by *FARTINMOWLER*
OMG your an idiot
Yeah, seriously though. Get over your love affair with canada - it's really annoying. You give shit to alot of the americans on this board, even though they can see the flaws of their country.
Oct 17th, 2004 01:31 AM
Ant10708 Drive nails?
ouch :/
Oct 16th, 2004 07:48 PM
FartinMowler Why are you looking at penis stuff? I'm 38 and I could drive nails with mine?
Oct 16th, 2004 07:42 PM
Zebra 3 - Interesting penis info and stuff HERE.
Oct 16th, 2004 07:08 PM
The One and Only... It just doesn't matter. Re-importing drugs is not going to lower costs. The drugs are only cheaper in Canada because of governmental regulations; as soon as they enter the US, they will return to US market prices.

The Kerry campaign is really starting to piss me off. And you guys say that Bush is misleading.
Oct 16th, 2004 11:47 AM
FartinMowler OMG your an idiot
Oct 16th, 2004 11:07 AM
Zhukov Your shitty canadian government wishes everyday that it was more like the US.
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