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Nov 22nd, 2004 01:05 PM
glowbelly see, i was going to say just about the same thing helm did up there...but i so knew that he would say it better.

yeah, see what i mean?
Nov 22nd, 2004 12:30 PM
Helm It's great that you accuse me of being an elitist and then basically say that 'you don't know these bands I'm talking about so shut up' in the same breath.

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I really don't care about whether or not my abbreviations bother you.
Yeah, that's the spirit of i-mockery right there. You don't have to care what other people think. You're special. You're a star. You so don't care what other people think that you've got a blog in which you review bland albums in bland ways, and you spam internet message boards about it.

I didn't intend to come here to mock you, but you're just setting yourself up so much I can't help it. I mean, look at this here:

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my attempts to strike conversation, might bother you since the bands I am talking about you know nothing about.
If you were talking about somebody really really obscure like Medieval Death or Moahni Moahna I'd understand that you wouldn't expect people to know who they are, but it's pushing it to assume that people don't know who the fucking guitar player of Red Hot Chilli Peppers is, (not to mention a complete brain-fried junkie zombie that referred to the World Trade Centre terrorist attack as the 'Empire State tragedy') or a band that made a high-profile soundtrack to the Virgin Suicides. That's like feeling you're really hardcore because you found this great punk band you really like, called Dead Kennedys. Maybe in your social circle, listening to anything other than mtv top 10 music makes you really hardcore awesome, but that doesn't mean everybody else on the internet that calls you on it has to be as musically retarded as them, or a late-as-hell bloomer as you.

Rez didn't want to play this game with you, but I couldn't care less either way. I listen to tons of music, different genres spanning from Bela Bartok to Zeni Geva to King Crimson, and looking at your reviews and lists, I don't think you're at any place to tell people that they don't know what they're talking about. You have horrible taste. You have delusions of being important. You're a jerk. Goodbye.
Nov 22nd, 2004 11:42 AM
Rez
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Originally Posted by glowbelly
i like rez.

just sayin.
and i like you too

just that i seem to be someone who dont "know you" on your LJ friends list, huh? huh? yeah, i dont need no intro , though the pics were rad.
Nov 22nd, 2004 11:40 AM
Rez dude, the man was joking around :/
take some advanced literature classes so you can study subject matter and tone of writing to help you spot such flippantness in the future.

regardless though, dont be a jerk, especially when discussing who knows what in music. it's twice you've been wrong about that in this thread.
Nov 22nd, 2004 11:37 AM
glowbelly i like rez.

just sayin.
Nov 21st, 2004 09:32 PM
Daysthatareover I really don't care about whether or not my abbreviations bother you.

Honestly, i'm secure enough with myself that trivial bullshit like that just makes me realize how elite you feel by posting shit on the message board.

my attempts to strike conversation, might bother you since the bands I am talking about you know nothing about.

keane is another band I really hate. all in all though its hard to fault the shortlist in general. it is a cool idea and it gets a surprising amount of media coverage considering the type of bands that generally get voted for it.

unfortunately it likely won't be too many more years before that award is going to bands that never would have been considered for it previously.
Nov 21st, 2004 05:16 PM
Rez

the "talkie walkie" air album is sweet. it's always been chilled back and atmospheric, except when they went crazy and made "10,000 hz legend" which is wierd as fuck and probably their best stuff.

there were a handful of others that maybe deserved the shortlist prize, but mainly bands like fucking keane flooded the nominations.
Nov 21st, 2004 01:04 PM
Helm Your attempts to strike up conversation are ruined by your lack of understanding that around here, people that use internet abbreviations like 'r u' instead of 'are you' and keep a straight face are severily mocked. Especially people that have written four novels, was it?
Nov 21st, 2004 11:56 AM
Daysthatareover Not sure if it would be my kinda thing either.

R u into John Frusciante?
Nov 21st, 2004 06:06 AM
Helm Air is interesting low-key pop with a psychedelic twist. Mainly keyboard based. Not my kind of thing, really.
Nov 20th, 2004 11:46 PM
Daysthatareover
Cool

I should pick that up.

There was another nominee for the shortlist called Air I think?

I've never heard that cd. anyone know if they are any good?
Nov 20th, 2004 11:38 PM
Ninjavenom I agree with Helm. Numbers are arbitrary when reviewing music. The best i can do for someone is describe the album in the most imaginitive, yet accurate way possible to convey to them how the record may make them feel. Dropping names like a scenester also helps. I'm not going to look up a band unless someone tells me what they play, what it sounds like, and why i should care.
Nov 20th, 2004 09:42 PM
Rez it's mainly NME's fault. i hate the british press because its main over-inflated rag of a mag pumps up absolutely anyone with a glimmer of hope as the next big thing.

take an album i like. if they see a populist appeal to it, it gets a smattering of praise and vocabulary that tempts us to think it's the second coming. if not, then it invariably has some good qualities but for some ass-end reason "falls flat"

:/

the new tv on the radio disc is a three track should-be-a-friggin-promo-or-itunes-feature disc. there's "new health rock" and "modern romance" both great new tracks, and for some arbitrary reason a re-presentation of "the wrong way"
Nov 20th, 2004 09:13 PM
Daysthatareover its not only that.

i mean i first heard franz and i was impressed. but it just seems like it has appointed as the greatest album in years.

and nobody seems to question it.

really pisses me off. have u heard the new tv on the radio disc?

i think it only has 4 songs.

i haven't had a chance as of yet.
Nov 20th, 2004 09:06 PM
Rez good god, fuck franz ferdinand. an entire album of "take me out" that gets really tiresome 4 songs in. DULL.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:59 PM
Daysthatareover nice finally someone else who agrees with me on the tv on the radio shortlist prize.

i was positive franz was going to win.

but tv on the radio deserved it.

i wouldn't rush out to hear hot water music its not that good.

as if you dont like ted leo tho, the new album is awesome.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:57 PM
Rez not getting in a pissing contest with you, but

ted leo - i dont like the decemberists, and i dont like him

KoC - shelved them off as boring aster a couple astralwerks samplers, rather liked Oye's mix CD so i gave it another run. i was bored again

hot water music - havent heard of, sorry.

Datsuns - they're special in their genre of garabe-rock, which contain the loathsome vines and the tolerable Hives, but i could never dive into that stuff before.

coheed and cambria - haven't heard either, but i dont keep up with anything off of the Warped Tour, either.

TV on the Radio - goddamn fucking brilliant. completely deserved the shortlist prize, and "new health rock" is rather exciting as far as anticipating future releases.

i have a thread 1 or 2 pages back full of porly written blurbs of stuff i get excited about (or dont) if you're actually interested, i just hold you up to a higher stand because you plug yourself.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:49 PM
Daysthatareover you really dont have anything to say do u?

honestly.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:48 PM
Big Papa Goat
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Originally Posted by Daysthatareover
and since hardly anybody i know, knows of those bands.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:45 PM
Daysthatareover Contrary, i'd love to knwo what he thinks about them.

talking about music is one of my favorite things to do.

and since hardly anybody i know, knows of those bands.

i'd like to hear some input on them.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:43 PM
Big Papa Goat I don't think you really care what he thinks about them
Nov 20th, 2004 08:35 PM
Daysthatareover
Really?

What do you think of the new Ted Leo / Kings of Convenience / Hot Water Music / Datsuns / Coheed and Cambria/ Tv on The Radio?
Nov 20th, 2004 08:28 PM
Rez
Re: Sure you do:)

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Originally Posted by Daysthatareover
I disagree completely.

There is no cash benefit out of reviewing these cds, or anything like that. sure we get a deal on the cds we r reviewing..... but thats just cuz my friend has a record store.

anyhow.....

the point is how arbitrary is a 7.5? rather than a 7.44? its either way just a number.

you dont own all these albums, stop flattering yourself

i dont own all these albums.
i'm not interested in how or if you benefit from what you do, it's how completely ridiculous the post decimal point rating is. which then leads one to realize to how dumb giving numbers or (god forbid) letter grades are. music reviews like these make people realize that they are completely meaningless except to make us aware of new music or tell the unsure what to think of the new Streets album. if the reader knows the album which is being written about, its relevance to them is nearly zero.

and yes, i either own or have heard most of the albums you write about.
Nov 20th, 2004 08:15 PM
Daysthatareover
Sure you do:)

I disagree completely.

There is no cash benefit out of reviewing these cds, or anything like that. sure we get a deal on the cds we r reviewing..... but thats just cuz my friend has a record store.

anyhow.....

the point is how arbitrary is a 7.5? rather than a 7.44? its either way just a number.

you dont own all these albums, stop flattering yourself

i dont own all these albums.
Nov 20th, 2004 06:50 PM
Rez it's way fucking laughable that you think music appreciation includes the ability to give a work of music a percent rating. i'll start up a fine art site and give van gogh a 7.36 because i dont like his broad and untrained paintbrush.

often when music writers ask to relate to them when they write on an album is really just a veil for a poor grasp of the english language. a lot of so-called intangible benefits of good music is understood by most anyone who likes it, and people who go "yeah, i see what you're saying" are distracted from the writer not actually being able to write clearly and instead using some absurd technique of reader participation.

no one sees you as a math head, the issue is kinda the opposite: it's how retardedly arbitrary it all seems with how you take it way seriously.

and plus the music you review is boring. i have most of these records, next.
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