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Oct 26th, 2005 06:49 PM
Preechr It's funny to see them questioning each others' honesty and integrity.

As IF.
Oct 26th, 2005 02:36 PM
mburbank Yeah, unfortunately, people haven't minded outright lies from their politicians much since Nixon. I distinctly recall polls that found most people not beleiving the following things:

Reagan was telling the truth about Iran/Contra
Bush senior as VP was 'out of the loop' on Iran/contra
Clinton didn't have multiple dalliances with women outside his marriage
Hillary had no idea how travel records re-appeared

The thing that bothers me is not that we accept politicians lie whenever their mouths move, but that we seem to have lost perspective on what the consequences of those lies are.

W wants to say he hit his head when he choked on a pretzel while watching sports when the truth is he was masturbating watching porn, who cares? W lied to congress to get their approval to go to war and thousands of people die and the entire world is thrown into turmoil, that's a little more disturbing.

9 out of 10 people think the administration is lieing about Plame. Those are pretty heavy numbers, but the question is wrong. They should take those nine people and find out how many of them care that the administration is lieing about it.
Oct 26th, 2005 12:03 PM
Dr. Boogie I think "corruption in politics" is redundant. It'd be like saying "dough in baking," or "catcher's mitts in baseball."
Oct 26th, 2005 11:40 AM
ziggytrix I think corruption in politics simply means that you value ethics less than you value results.
Oct 26th, 2005 11:38 AM
Pub Lover In My Opinion, Max.

I don't believe people thinking they're corrupt would stop them being reelected if that was possible.
Oct 26th, 2005 11:35 AM
mburbank I think some of them are corrupt and most of them are morally bankrupt. Evil is in the yeye of the beholder I guess, but I think they're evil. I bet a lot of dead people would agree if they could.

I don't know what IMO means.


I never admitted that before.
Oct 26th, 2005 11:04 AM
KevinTheOmnivore I think they are "cabalish," closed off, and often incompetent.

Corrupt? Eh, you're half a step away from evil at that point, and that conversation goes nowhere, IMO.
Oct 26th, 2005 11:02 AM
Geggy Well do YOU think they're corrupted?

Whatever you do, don't shop at walmart, no matter how cheap their cereal are, take your money and spend it on cereal elsewhere. Boobeerry and frankenberry wouldn't like it if you bought their cereal for 2 bucks a box at a heavily republican funded retailer store. Fuck target, too. Booberry booberry boo ya boo berry
Oct 26th, 2005 10:55 AM
KevinTheOmnivore I'll bet a shiney nickel that the poll was conducted by Pew.

EDIT: DAMN! It was Gallup. Ok, Max, what's your address?
Oct 26th, 2005 09:23 AM
mburbank
Most think W Administration is corrupt.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Only one in 10 Americans said they believe Bush administration officials did nothing illegal or unethical in connection with the leaking of a CIA operative's identity, according to a national poll released Tuesday.

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