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Apr 3rd, 2006 12:34 AM

kahljorn

:LOL you guys seriously have to see this. It's footage of the "protesters" here in Bakersfield, and the anti protesters.

http://www.bakersfield.com/media/200...est.source.wmv

The funny part is where some stupid mexican student is talking about why she is against the law, and she says something like, "But what about the people who are here legally"? And then she goes on to say, "This is like what hitler did"!

Real winners. That's the kind of intelligence guiding these protests, and look at that 40 year old jackass who's trying to lead all of the highschoolers or something. What the fuck is he doing?

I guess there's people who are protesting the protesters with signs that say, "What part of illegal don't you understand"?

OH yea, www.bakersfield.com at the bottom there's some more media of the protests(also if the link didn't work)

Mar 31st, 2006 10:00 AM

mburbank

I can't believe Phagrow hasn't come over here to give his teabag opinion about Mexicans ruining our country. Someone should tell him Mexicans are the USA version of British Arabs except poorer.

Mar 31st, 2006 09:45 AM

KevinTheOmnivore

All of your posts are funny, Geggy. Don't sell yourself short.

Mar 31st, 2006 05:50 AM

Geggy

I'm glad you understood the joke I was making

Mar 30th, 2006 11:28 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

CLASSIFID, OGMG!

Mar 30th, 2006 10:57 PM

Geggy

I think this will solve the problems with illegal immigrants

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm

Mar 30th, 2006 02:48 PM

kahljorn

One of the places they are protesting is where i live(Bakersfield, ca), the school is actually right around the corner and you can see it from here. They were standing in front of my house for a few hours yesterday, and they are currently still wandering around aimlessly and screaming.

It doesn't seem like the students here have any destination or any type of vendetta, you'd think they'd go to city hall like the students in houston because it's a stones throw away. They are also obstructing traffic and acting like ruffians. Other than that it's nice to hear. It would just be nice if they had a little bit of organization and thought behind it rather than just acting like jackass children. Parading through residential areas and screaming for hours on in and obstructing traffic isn't going to win them any points. For that matter neither is acting like you're in a riot and throwing water bottles at police cars and oncoming traffic and trying to "Beat up" commercial business signs.

Mar 30th, 2006 11:10 AM

KevinTheOmnivore

That's a good plan.

Mar 30th, 2006 10:13 AM

mburbank

I think we need a solution that is the dictionary deffinition of Amnesty but we all agree to say it isn't amnesty, and if anyone uses the word amnesty in connection with it we all go "Shhhhhhh".

Mar 29th, 2006 07:16 PM

ScruU2wice

I don't think anyone actually believes that they will be able to deport illegal. Alot of talk no walk..

Mar 29th, 2006 03:31 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

I honestly haven't paid as much attention to this issue as I would like to admit.

I think the protests are awesome and inspiring. I think Senators Kyl and Cornyn are off track on thinking you can force all current illegals to come forward and register, or else be deported. Saying that the back of the line begins "in their country" seems to be the fingers in the ears "I can't hear you!" solution to things.

We need to find a resolution that allows for quasi-amnesty for folks that are already here, and one that also accounts for security considerations.

Mar 29th, 2006 12:38 PM

ziggytrix

Student Protests Across Country

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/29/immigration/

Quote:

Senate set to duel over immigration
Ahead of Mexico summit, Bush says system is 'inhumane'

Wednesday, March 29, 2006; Posted: 11:10 a.m. EST (16:10 GMT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Senate is set to begin debate Wednesday on legislation that could dramatically affect the 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States.

The movement to change federal and state immigration laws has spurred massive protests in several cities against proposed restrictions they view as fundamentally un-American.

Student walkouts, marches and rallies took place again Tuesday in California, Texas, Arizona, Nevada and other states. A group of high school students in Houston walked to City Hall in protest.

But whatever the politics and despite the odds against them, people from countries south of the U.S. border continue to try to cheat death for a chance at the American dream. (Watch desperate immigrants board 'train of death' -- 2:15)

The Senate debate centers on an election-year bill that passed the Judiciary Committee on Monday. It was unclear, however, if the panel's bill has enough support to survive intact. (Watch the last time Congress tried to fix illegal immigration -- 2:02)

Powerful Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, scheduled two weeks of debate on the issue and, having expressed frustration at the panel's pace, put forth his own proposal. (A look at the competing bills)

The committee's bill would create a guest-worker program and give illegal immigrants the chance to work toward legal status without first returning home.

Those provisions are not included in Frist's proposal, nor in an immigration bill approved by the House in December.

The Senate is expected to vote on whether to proceed with the committee bill or the Frist proposal.

The House bill would fence off 700 miles of the U.S.-Mexico border and make crossing illegally a felony. It has drawn fierce opposition from Latino groups.

An estimated half-million people turned out to protest Saturday in Los Angeles, and smaller demonstrations have continued since then. One Spanish-language disc jockey in that city said he and his counterparts could take credit for the demonstrations.

"I've always been involved with the community, protesting laws that are very anti-immigrant because I was an illegal immigrant at one point in my life," Renan Coello said. (Full story)
GOP divided

Highlighting the divisions within GOP ranks over immigration, six of the Senate Judiciary Committee's 10 Republicans voted against the bill, which passed 12-6 with support from the panel's eight Democrats.

Debate in the full Senate is set to begin as President Bush travels to Cancun, Mexico, for a summit with Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

A day before his departure, Bush told CNN en Espanol that the current immigration system "is inhumane, as far as I'm concerned, and it needs to be reformed."

He urged Congress to support a temporary guest-worker program.

"I have called upon both the House and the Senate to pass a comprehensive bill. And a comprehensive bill means to make sure you include a guest-worker program," he said.

He said his plan "includes not only border security, but also a temporary worker plan that recognizes there are hardworking people here doing jobs Americans won't do, and they ought to be here in such a way so they don't have to hide in the shadows of our society."

A guest-worker program has support in the business community, and Bush has successfully courted Latino backing during his presidential campaigns. But an outspoken segment of his conservative base demands restrictions on immigration.
Battle lines blurred

The biggest bone of contention in the bill passed by the Judiciary Committee is likely to be the legalization process for undocumented immigrants already in the country -- an idea denounced as "amnesty" by its critics and opposed by Bush.

"The bill that is coming out of the Judiciary Committee rewards illegal behavior, and I think if you reward illegal behavior, you'll get more illegal behavior," said Sen. George Allen, a Virginia Republican.

By a 12-5 margin, the committee accepted an amendment from Sen. Ted Kennedy, a Massachusetts Democrat, that would create the legalization process.

In order to gain permanent residency under the Senate committee's bill, illegal immigrants would have to wait six years, pay $2,000 in fines and any back taxes, undergo a background check and learn English.

Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, expressed support Tuesday for the bill passed by the Judiciary Committee.

"I hope we can move forward with it and then pass it through the Senate," he told reporters. "I'm very pleased that the president has been very supportive of a humane approach to the issue and a viable guest-worker program."

On Tuesday, Bush played host to a bipartisan group of lawmakers on education and other topics. Kennedy -- typically a fierce critic of the president -- offered praise for Bush after what he called a brief discussion on immigration.

"The president likes the idea of a comprehensive approach," Kennedy said. "Although we still have not worked out the details of any kind of a joint position with the administration, I'm very hopeful that before the end of this debate, that we can all come together."

Further blurring the battle lines on the issue, the guest-worker proposal drew criticism Tuesday from the AFL-CIO, which praised other aspects of the committee's bill.

"Guest-workers programs are a bad idea and harm all workers," said a written statement from the labor group's president, John Sweeney. "They cast workers into a perennial second-class status, and unfairly put their fates into their employers' hands, creating a situation ripe for exploitation."

A statement from the Service Employees International Union, by contrast, praised the panel's legislation, urging the full Senate to "follow its lead."

CNN's Dana Bash and Peter Viles contributed to this report.

Here in Terrell, TX we just had about 100 school aged Latino kids walk by our studio waving Mexican flags. We were coming back from watching the Elephants raise the tents for the circus which is in town tonight. What a surreal day.

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