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Apr 21st, 2006 12:52 PM
Drunkenbrigade
Re: I almost Died!?

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Originally Posted by StupidKraut
So apparently during Biology class today my body had some kind of negative reacton to the Ritalin Ive been taking since grade 3 and decided the most logical course of action was to make my heart pre-beat every 10 seconds and boogey on up from a 60-50 bpm (I admit I'm not in the best of shape) but all the way upo to the 90-120 range. So now I have to wear some goddamned heart monitor thing for the next 24 hours.
Now I know what your mass message (Heart explosion) on live meant.
Apr 21st, 2006 10:53 AM
Terra Well I wasn't "instulted" I actually thought it was funny.
I knew you were on something really ampy when you did that or at the very least, 12 years old.

Turns out you were both!
Apr 21st, 2006 01:41 AM
ArrowX It was actualy made to instult terra. Because at I never read the first post in that thread until actually posting tha timage.
Apr 21st, 2006 01:33 AM
Sethomas See, I'm not sure how I should go about posting in this thread. I like for death to be an artistic expression of humor, as those of you who were around in 2003 will remember my zany misadventures. There's a line between good-humored levity and blatant disrespect, and I wouldn't want to cross it. I think it's interesting to ponder what kind of effect the I-Mockery community is going to have on this young lad as he grows up, and it moistens my eyes to think that I was roughly his age when I joined. Whatever it is for which he was born, I'm sure it's out there, and I would not dare to wish that he expire prematurely.

But seriously. Regard the following:




Notice the file name, "takethatyoubitch.jpg". Imagine the creator of this gem suffering a Ritalin-related death. Tragedies aside, you have to concede that the divine creator has a delicious sense of irony.
Apr 21st, 2006 12:56 AM
ArrowX I don't need the ritalin anymore, Ive been taking in for the last 10 years and scoring shitty grades then I hit hishscool and started taking them only on days when I have exams and my marks are all in the 80% range, except bio, Fuck Bio and everythign that looks liek bio.
Apr 20th, 2006 09:12 PM
kahljorn Yea it makes alot of sense that the reason they have add is because they aren't stimulated so they need stimulants. MTV generation? I don't know, according to most of what I've read it's a more recent 'psychosis'(more like neurosis), but that could be due to changes in diet/enviroment, or simply social changes like you're suggesting.

Another reason why it might go away when you're an adult is because the brain is still developing up until then, that's why alot of schizophrenics go crazy in their teens to early 20's. There's also alot of hormonal changes at that time, and considering the fact that alot of this is related to important hormonal producing glands it makes it more plausible.

Also like I mentioned before this is an actual developmental problem and it's effects are often tied to nutrition and what type of drugs the mother injested while the child was in the womb. People smoking nicotine even increases the risk, and people with add are more likely to have add children, so I think it's possible that this is an actual problem with the brain being underdeveloped. However, both of the previous examples can both be coincidence without causation, as both of those factors could be passed on through social development.
I'm not so sure if it's the result of bad parenting in a social regard, even though the brain is sometimes considered to react physiologically to external stimuli. It really seems more likely that it's a developmental problem, which is also a result of bad parenting but not in the same way as previously mentioned.
Apr 20th, 2006 08:04 PM
Supafly345 Add is just when the person isn't being stimulated enough and needs to be doing something in order to concentrate, thus getting distracted finding the stimulation and entirely defeating the point of trying ot find stimulation in the first place.

You were completely right, getting the kids out to play would solve a lot, since kids are becoming less and less stimulated these days with computers and shit (arrowx) the population of ADD kids is increasing at an equal rate as activity declines. This also solves the problem as to why most adults "grow" out of it, because they are finally forced to go in every direction at once and get the stimulation they need. Adult ADD ties into this in ways, but I am too tired to explain it, although I am sure you can figure it out by what I have just posted.
Apr 20th, 2006 07:02 PM
kahljorn I don't know much about ritalin or ADD. I think most people on it are just hyper kids. IMAGINE THAT HYPER KIDS NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE YOU FUCKING JACKASSES MAKE THEM GO OUTSIDE AND PLAY PROBLEM SOLVED.

No but seriously I don't really know anything about it and I doubt anyone else does either since most psychiatric medicine is given on the premise that they don't know how or why it works but they know that it helps but aren't exactly sure what it helps but still it helps right?
However I can make a few assumptions here that will probably be dead on:

First off, more than likely the child, mother and possibly father all have horrible nutritional habits. Considering add is a developmental disorder stemming from either genetic influence or, more than likely, enviromental factors this seems incredibly sound. Also, the usage of alcohol, nicotine and other drugs is known to increase the chances of ADD being inherited. So again, more examples of bad parenting from even before birth began, represented by poor nutrition and poor choice of drug usage.
Also ADD is supposed to be a problem with the dopamine transporters of the brain working too hard so the body can't produce enough dopamine before it gets taken away. To me this is quite hilarious, and I wonder what the effect of THC on an ADD person would be since I've heard cannibus increases the amount of dopamine in the brain. Another interesting note is the fact that dopamine is often considered the "Brain chemical", or the "Spiritual chemical" that guides us to enlightenment and meditative states. Obviously people with ADD don't have souls. Dopamine is also associated with the Third eye, more than likely due to it's effects on the pineal and pituatary glands(which are responsible for management of the brain, production of various hormones including melatonin and are considered to be a part of the third eye- mostly because the pineal supposedly activates through the pituatary).

Dopamine is considered by some to be responsible for feelings of pleasure and happiness, along with regulating many functions of the brain. Basically what the drugs you're taking do is supposedly restrict the dopamine transporters so they don't take it all away before it's even had a chance to effect the body. I'm sure there's tons of drugs that can do that, especially since pretty much any stimulant will do it.

"wow i didnt knew you could die with ritalin"

That's because you're an idiot, you can die from anything. Didn't you take a health class? Salt is toxic at high levels, and every medicine known to man is toxic. You can die from literally every pill or medicine on the market, and an excess of too much nutrients causes all kinds of problems. Too much calcium? What is that, kidney stones? The body is like a machine, would you use piss instead of oil?

"he Doc told me to drink lots of water"

You should drink lots of water all the time even when you aren't sick.

"we had the doctor take him off it after his stomach started bothering him all the time. but he hasn't found anything else that could help him get through the school day easily."

Try some other stimulants, there's lots of readily-available stimulants, like caffeine, although I have no idea if caffeine would have any effects. Pot would probably work, and you could probably get him on oral THC. I'd stick to the stimulants though since it apparantly has a recorded usage of stopping dopamine transporters. Even cocaine and amphetemines have worked on it. There's a few herbal stimulants like Kava kava and ephedra you might consider trying, just be careful, just because they are herbs doesn't mean they are good for you.

I'd feel weird reccomending a diet since ADD seems to be backwards because of an imbalance, but I'll look it up.

A few questions for you guys with ADD/ADHD:

Do you eat alot of sugars and processed food? (including anything with food dyes in it?)
Are you fat or overly skinny? In between?
What type of ADD do you have? Angry and irritable, inattentive and hyperactive, or the "Sluggish" type of ADD?


Your guys best bet is to repair your brains. There's something called, "Attentional Priority Disorder" and the people who coined the phrase have been researching how to get your brain to heal itself through diet and shit like that(specifically for the purpose of healing developmental behavioral disorders, like ADD and schizophrenia).
Apr 20th, 2006 05:54 PM
GADZOOKS I wouldn't of made jokes at a time like that arrowx, that's how john ritter died.
Apr 20th, 2006 05:22 PM
ArrowX I'm not goona die, the Doc told me to drink lots of water, that way the body has to cycle through all the dissolved fluids in my heart (something along those lines)

Another interesting story fro the ER is about an hour befroe I left I was kicked out of my observaton room so they could take my gurney, put it beside another one so they could operate on some guy who got in a car crash. I told one of the scrubs that If her kicks to give me his heart. Damn those guys have no sense of huor.

And watch yourself Biggame over the second this ticker gets his shit togeather I will fight the shit out of you
Apr 20th, 2006 03:59 PM
Girl Drink Drunk Man, we need the original clown around. It wouldn't be the same withought him. Don't go dying around on us, man.
Apr 20th, 2006 03:30 PM
Guitar Woman I always thought our meanness toward him was some kind of twisted display of affection.
Apr 20th, 2006 02:39 PM
thebiggameover wait, so you all dont wnat arrow x to die? what the fuck is going on here????
Apr 20th, 2006 01:22 PM
AChimp If you beat your kids, they wouldn't need Ritalin.
Apr 20th, 2006 12:56 PM
sadie my oldest was on ritalin from the time he was four to about ten. we had the doctor take him off it after his stomach started bothering him all the time. but he hasn't found anything else that could help him get through the school day easily. he's just been suspended for the rest of the year pending a child study committee.
Apr 20th, 2006 10:44 AM
darkvare wow i didnt knew you could die with ritalin :/ anyway hope you get better.
Apr 20th, 2006 07:49 AM
WhiteRat Back in high school Adderol was a hot commodity. I remember one kid who would sell his monthly supply of 20mg pills for $2 a pop. That was a steal considering we'd pop two 20's and be high for the whole day. That kid got hosed so bad over a year period.
Apr 20th, 2006 05:31 AM
Supafly345 I took that stuff forever, and it really was like a brain steroid where you could get an A in any subject with it. But eventually I just stopped remembering to take it and my grades didn't suffer when I did so I just assumed I didn't need it any longer. That might be when I stopped enjoying life too but I don't know.
Apr 20th, 2006 05:20 AM
WhiteRat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emu
It IS speed. It's the same shit.
Government crank is a term that I often hear it referred as.
Apr 20th, 2006 04:23 AM
RaNkeri Holy fuck dude! For what i've experienced, it must've been scary as hell. (althoug diabetic reactions aren't lethal[atleast they are NOT very common])
Apr 20th, 2006 02:43 AM
executioneer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat
Wait a second, 50-60 bpm normally means your in pretty good shape doesn't it?
nah, but it's about average.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Papa Goat
The slower your heart beats normally the better shape you're in right?
yes.
Apr 20th, 2006 02:40 AM
Big Papa Goat Wait a second, 50-60 bpm normally means your in pretty good shape doesn't it? The slower your heart beats normally the better shape you're in right?
Apr 20th, 2006 02:16 AM
morarity I've been taking Strattera for a little over a month. It's a non-stimulant NRI for ADD/ADHD. I think the "non-stimulant" part is the main selling-point because I have my doubts about its efficacy. On the upside, it makes me wake up early.
Apr 20th, 2006 12:57 AM
Shifty THANKS FOR INFORMING ME ON YOUR ALMOST DEATH FAGGET.




ether way, get better. i need someone to learn the drums :D. get betta still need you around for gaming ^^
Apr 20th, 2006 12:10 AM
Terra Bubby, I've been pretty decent to you. Don't get on my shit list because it'll be "TO THE MOON ALICE!!!"

We had a love child between all the "I'm going to post my writings here" thread and the other bullshit. So don't get all uppity with me!! Because I'll have Staxeon get all front of the bus with you and you'll die from the comedy!!

Just you wait till HE gets back!
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