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| Aug 4th, 2006 10:54 AM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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| Aug 4th, 2006 10:50 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
Alright Preechr that's enough now. Put your sock puppet away. You're really starting to hurt my feelings now, man
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| Aug 4th, 2006 10:30 AM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore | I would add that you don't believe the story b/c you hate Bush, hate your country, and probably need medication. | |||
| Aug 4th, 2006 09:56 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
LOL You WILL accept the official story! And you WILL love Bush! SIT! STAY! ROLL OVER! |
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| Aug 4th, 2006 09:15 AM | ||||
| Preechr | It's actually quite simple. Politics is Advertising or Sales. The product is politicians. Purchasing is mandatory, and choice of product is pretty much up to everybody but you. Just like Coca Cola, the product itself rarely changes (like becoming more healthy for you,) but the advertising message is modified continually to keep you interested. | |||
| Aug 4th, 2006 01:54 AM | ||||
| Dr. Boogie | This whole "politics" thing is hard to follow. | |||
| Aug 3rd, 2006 10:40 PM | ||||
| Preechr |
No. That's me. Kevin's just my sock-puppet. |
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| Aug 3rd, 2006 09:36 PM | ||||
| Dr. Boogie | You're a mouthpiece for the Bush administration? | |||
| Aug 3rd, 2006 02:16 PM | ||||
| Geggy | The smile was from them, not me just to be clear | |||
| Aug 3rd, 2006 02:14 PM | ||||
| Geggy |
The bush administration says thank you for not paying attention 
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| Aug 3rd, 2006 12:37 PM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore | You're good fun, Geggy. I'm glad we offer you an outlet for your batshit craziness. | |||
| Aug 3rd, 2006 11:05 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
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| Aug 3rd, 2006 09:51 AM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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| Aug 3rd, 2006 09:34 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 02:11 PM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
Just enjoying myself. Your threads otherwise make me a sad panda. |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 02:10 PM | ||||
| Geggy |
OMG kevin's losing it
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 01:05 PM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
heh, I was thinking that could be the beginning to a neat blue grass song. One of the pilots of these F-15s, They had a shiny rifle and they kept it clean, And all the ladies at the county dance would scream, "There goes the pilot of that F-15!" Ya-ooooh!! Ya-oooh!!! Now YOU add to the song! clap clap clap clap |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 12:59 PM | ||||
| ItalianStereotype | One of the pilots of these F-15s | |||
| Aug 2nd, 2006 11:50 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
Oops here's the rest of my post One of the pilots of these F-15s |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 11:46 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
Anyways...! Now that it's been publicly established the fact NORAD lied about the time sheet and pentagon covered it up, which is a treasonous offense (like anyone will be held accountable haha  ) the timeline of communication between FAA and NEADS and the times of fighter jets scrambling in the kean report are total hogwash, those in the commission in the article above still fail to explain the wargames that were taken place on the morning of 9/11Like this one for instace which waas not addressed in the kean report A team in the 102nd Fighter Wing at Otis Air National Guard Base, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, finishes loading dummy missiles onto two fighters that are going to fly a training mission over the Atlantic. They take off sometime before the second WTC tower is hit. Shortly after that hit, the fighters on the training mission are recalled. The implication is that the fighters are then refitted with actual weapons instead of dummy ones. http://www.capecodonline.com/special...pecodders8.htm Otis is the base from which the two F-15s launch in response to the first hijacking (Flight 11) at roughly the same time. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5233007 One of the pilots of these F-15s |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 10:02 AM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore | This coming from the "levies gone wild!" clown. | |||
| Aug 2nd, 2006 10:01 AM | ||||
| Geggy | retard. | |||
| Aug 2nd, 2006 10:00 AM | ||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 09:55 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes How did the U.S. Air Force respond on 9/11? Could it have shot down United 93, as conspiracy theorists claim? Obtaining 30 hours of never-before-released tapes from the control room of NORAD's Northeast headquarters, the author reconstructs the chaotic military history of that day—and the Pentagon's apparent attempt to cover it up. VF.com exclusive: Hear excerpts from the September 11 NORAD tapes. Click PLAY after each transcript to listen http://www.vanityfair.com/features/general/060801fege01 |
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| Aug 2nd, 2006 09:54 AM | ||||
| Geggy |
Blame it all on NORAD, sure 9/11 Panel Suspected Deception by Pentagon Allegations Brought to Inspectors General By Dan Eggen Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 2, 2006; Page A03 Some staff members and commissioners of the Sept. 11 panel concluded that the Pentagon's initial story of how it reacted to the 2001 terrorist attacks may have been part of a deliberate effort to mislead the commission and the public rather than a reflection of the fog of events on that day, according to sources involved in the debate. Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources. Staff members and some commissioners thought that e-mails and other evidence provided enough probable cause to believe that military and aviation officials violated the law by making false statements to Congress and to the commission, hoping to hide the bungled response to the hijackings, these sources said. In the end, the panel agreed to a compromise, turning over the allegations to the inspectors general for the Defense and Transportation departments, who can make criminal referrals if they believe they are warranted, officials said. "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. "It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied." Although the commission's landmark report made it clear that the Defense Department's early versions of events on the day of the attacks were inaccurate, the revelation that it considered criminal referrals reveals how skeptically those reports were viewed by the panel and provides a glimpse of the tension between it and the Bush administration. A Pentagon spokesman said yesterday that the inspector general's office will soon release a report addressing whether testimony delivered to the commission was "knowingly false." A separate report, delivered secretly to Congress in May 2005, blamed inaccuracies in part on problems with the way the Defense Department kept its records, according to a summary released yesterday. A spokesman for the Transportation Department's inspector general's office said its investigation is complete and that a final report is being drafted. Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, said she could not comment on the inspector general's inquiry. In an article scheduled to be on newsstands today, Vanity Fair magazine reports aspects of the commission debate -- though it does not mention the possible criminal referrals -- and publishes lengthy excerpts from military audiotapes recorded on Sept. 11. ABC News aired excerpts last night. For more than two years after the attacks, officials with NORAD and the FAA provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that U.S. air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington. In fact, the commission reported a year later, audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft -- American Airlines Flight 11 -- long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center. Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not hijacked until 12 minutes later. The military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania. These and other discrepancies did not become clear until the commission, forced to use subpoenas, obtained audiotapes from the FAA and NORAD, officials said. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes -- along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence -- led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on Sept. 11. "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on Sept. 11, said in a recent interview. "The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years. . . . This is not spin. This is not true." Arnold, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, told the commission in 2004 that he did not have all the information unearthed by the panel when he testified earlier. Other military officials also denied any intent to mislead the panel. John F. Lehman, a Republican commission member and former Navy secretary, said in a recent interview that he believed the panel may have been lied to but that he did not believe the evidence was sufficient to support a criminal referral. "My view of that was that whether it was willful or just the fog of stupid bureaucracy, I don't know," Lehman said. "But in the order of magnitude of things, going after bureaucrats because they misled the commission didn't seem to make sense to me." |
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