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Oct 7th, 2006 02:32 AM
Geggy Have fun

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
No Geggy, you didn't apologize, plus you're STILL talking about Mossad tip offs. If this forum has taught you one thing, it should be that the Jewish community is the farthest thing from "tight". That you thought any of this was plausible is what's so telling.
I did apologized, you just never accepted it. Mossad and Israel have tipped off the bush administration of the impending attacks numerous times which proved foreknowledge. Don't worry, there's no conspiracy in mossad tipping off the israeli based company in the wtc. I used to entertain the idea with some compelling evidence backed up that mossad and israel were responsible for the wtc attack when the pentagon attack was planned by a seperate group and mossad/aipac spies knew about it. I know how these clever bastards operate. But there aren't as enough evidence to prove that assertion so I don't waste time on it anymore.
Oct 6th, 2006 03:28 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Yeah, and now I'll have to dig b/c Geggy either can't remember, or chooses not to.
Oct 6th, 2006 03:07 PM
kahljorn I explicitely remember you saying that nobody died in the airplanes, along with alot of other stuff.
Oct 6th, 2006 02:59 PM
Abcdxxxx
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Originally Posted by Geggy
Yeah I know. After that I admitted I made a mistake and apologized for it. I only thought it was true that 4000 jews didn't show up work that day because mossad agency warned the workers of the israeli based company, odigo, in the wtc two hours in advance that an attack was coming. I figured that the jewish community was "tight"
No Geggy, you didn't apologize, plus you're STILL talking about Mossad tip offs. If this forum has taught you one thing, it should be that the Jewish community is the farthest thing from "tight". That you thought any of this was plausible is what's so telling.
Oct 6th, 2006 12:21 PM
Geggy The guy paid the fines three weeks before the suicide mission. That s what I was laughing about.
Oct 6th, 2006 12:02 PM
El Blanco Dude, last summer I was pulled over by a NJ State Trooper and I had a suspened liscence. He didn't even mention it to me.

I only found out I had an outstanding fine for a bad taillight when I went to get my DL renewed at the DMV a few months ago.

The officer usually just runs a scan to see if there are any outstanding warrants in the name on the liscence. If you are in another state and don't have any outstanding felonies, prelimary checks won't bring anything up.

I'm also curious why you are laughing. Are you big enough scumbag to get off on this?
Oct 6th, 2006 08:36 AM
Geggy
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THE WASHINGTON POST--One of the hijackers aboard the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was stopped for speeding within a few miles of the military headquarters six weeks before the attack, police confirmed Tuesday.

Hani Hanjour, who is believed to have piloted the hijacked plane into the Pentagon, was ticketed Aug. 1 for driving 55 mph in a 30 mph zone in the 1800 block of South George Mason Drive, Arlington, Va., police said.

The revelation came on the same day that Maryland State Police released a videotape of a trooper pulling over another of the hijackers, Ziad Samir Jarrah, in Maryland two days before the attacks.

Hanjour, Jarrah and five other hijackers fraudulently obtained Virginia identification cards, federal officials say.

Hanjour was driving a beige Chrysler van with New Jersey license plates when Arlington police pulled him over at 3:19 p.m. Hanjour presented a Florida driver's license that indicated that he lived in Miramar, Fla., though other records show he had a New York address.

"If (the officer) has a crystal ball and he could look forward into time, it would have been a good catch," said Detective Jim Page, an Arlington police spokesman.

Three weeks after the stop, Hanjour mailed in a money order to pay a $70 fine and $30 in court costs, Arlington General District Court Clerk Kimberly Reazey said Tuesday.
Oops!
Oct 6th, 2006 06:38 AM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
That's funny, cuz i recall a time when you questioned the very existence of the people on that plane. I had to show you the testimony of the workers from Walter Reed who had to gather their burned remains, remember?
I think you're confusing me for someone else. I don't recall ever talking about the passengers of AA77.

Even I have seen the evidence of dna testing conducted by a pathologist from the armed force insititute of pathology that proved passengers were on the planes.

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/images...foia-10001.jpg

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/images...foia-10002.jpg

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/images...foia-10003.jpg

Let me know when you find anything funny about the list the names.

Also in the 3 year span before these shots of hijackers entering dulles were released to the public, numerous reliable sources have confirmed some of the hijackers were still alive and they've claimed their identity were stolen. It was even stated in the 9/11 report that "A 'Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Student Identity Card' was found in the rubble at the Pentagon with Mosed's name on it. Forsenic examination indicated that it may have been fraudulent."
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Are you denying that those people in the photos are the hijackers? So you only trust photos released impetuously, rather than ones that are studied and verified? I think that says a lot about you.
The FBI had no problem releasing Atta's video few days after 9/11. I'm sorry I made a mistake. All of the shots of AA77 hijackers were released 3 years later and without time stamps! And alhazmi and almidar were able to buy plane tickets online using credit cards under their real names! Hanjour took up flight training in the US, especially in phoenix, al qaeda's hotbed, and he had his own car registered under his name, a resident address, and a phone number and the cia and the fbi never caught a wind of it! These arabs were able to bypass security at dulles while carrying knives and explosives! "Intelligence failure," my ass.

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We're not talking about Logan airport or Atta, we're talking about Flight 77. I'm trying to keep you focused here so that you can make a coherent argument. I'm pulling for ya, Gegster!
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Originally Posted by KevinTheOmnivore
Oh btw geggy, remember when you tried to argue that no Jews died on 9/11 and linked us to an Aryan website....?
Yeah I know. After that I admitted I made a mistake and apologized for it. I only thought it was true that 4000 jews didn't show up work that day because mossad agency warned the workers of the israeli based company, odigo, in the wtc two hours in advance that an attack was coming. I figured that the jewish community was "tight", the other jewish workers in wtc were warned of the attacks as well. But I found out the number came from the families of the 4000 jews who worked in the wtc called the police station and expressed concerns for their relatives. But a lot of muslims didn't show up for work that day as well so it was a mistake. Oopsies.
Oct 5th, 2006 11:54 PM
kahljorn I remember him not believing people died in 911 too. I have a really good memory. Geggy has been going back in forth as to what he believes occured on 9/11 since ive been reading his posts.
Oct 5th, 2006 10:53 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Oh btw geggy, remember when you tried to argue that no Jews died on 9/11 and linked us to an Aryan website....?

Good times.
Oct 5th, 2006 09:47 PM
KevinTheOmnivore That's funny, cuz i recall a time when you questioned the very existence of the people on that plane. I had to show you the testimony of the workers from Walter Reed who had to gather their burned remains, remember?

Are you denying that those people in the photos are the hijackers? So you only trust photos released impetuously, rather than ones that are studied and verified? I think that says a lot about you.

We're not talking about Logan airport or Atta, we're talking about Flight 77. I'm trying to keep you focused here so that you can make a coherent argument. I'm pulling for ya, Gegster!
Oct 5th, 2006 09:41 PM
Geggy Uh the passengers were in the plane that crashed the pentagon?

I don't buy the photos that was released 3 years later. Come on kevin you can do better than that. Show me the ones that were released not 3 years after 9/11 but just few days afterward like the photos that captured atta in portland, me and nawaf.

So Atta arrived logan by car or plane?
Oct 5th, 2006 09:04 PM
KevinTheOmnivore No....the passengers.

I'm glad you now accept that there is photo evidence of hijackers boarding though. I'll take credit for that. But as I pointed out to you in a thread a while back, there is photographic evidence of at least two flight 77 hijackers, possibly three. So please, stop being a filthy liar.

Khalid al-Mihdhar:



Nawaf al-Hazmi:



This is a picture of Majed Moqed with Hani Hanjour, believed to be the flight's pilot, just outside DC 9 days before 9/11:



There are, of course, a couple of photos that MAY be Hanjour:



So geggy-- You claim that only one photo was released, which clearly isn't the truth. Why would you lie? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO GAIN!??
Oct 5th, 2006 08:51 PM
Geggy If you mean by hijackers, I don't know. I'm haven't yet been convinced of that. If a security camera at dulles had captured one of the hijackers bypassing security, it surely would've captured the other hijackers bypassing security. Only one shot of that hijacker was released to the public, where are the rest?

There was one camera capturing a shot of Atta boarding a plane in portland, maine that's destinated to land at logan airport in boston. The 9/11 report claimed a rental car under the name of atta was parked at logan lol. So which is which? Did he arrive logan by plane or by car?
Oct 5th, 2006 08:35 PM
KevinTheOmnivore Hey Geggy, the folks that were listed on Flight 77, were they really on that plane? If not, where are they?

I envision this thread being like a Dear Abby, but rather than talking to "Abby", you direct your questions to an unstable quack.
Oct 5th, 2006 08:21 PM
Geggy Ugh your whole post made me cringe.

By the way when did I ever said al qaeda was fake? I said fake enemy. They exist, but they're not what they appear to be. I view them more of as drugs and arms dealing network under control of cia, isi and m16 than a terrorist network.
Oct 5th, 2006 07:54 PM
El Blanco
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Originally Posted by Geggy
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
I don't get it? You don't think those were planes that hit the Towers?
No, I'm trying to prove my point that it's in Fox News interest to focus on the most outrageous theories in order to ridicule and discredit the movement while ignoring the hard evidence pointing the US govt's guilt, like the phoenix memo, W-199I form, warnings, wargames, isi-cia connections, etc.
No evidence. In fact, this guy is one of those Scheister's for 9/11 that you quote.


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Sorry but I stopped arguing with you when you become intellectually dishonest.
You never argued. And the guy who doesn't read his own fucking posts is calling me intellectually dishonest? Thats a laugh.

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It's a huge turn off for me.
I'm sorry. I'll stop relying on physics, engineers, the full testimony of witnesses and all the other things that people with actual critical thinking skills do. Would that make you happy?

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When I told you mineta confirmed he had arrived the PEOC at 9:20 and cheney was already there. The 9/11 commission in fact omitted mineta's claim and changed cheney's time of arrival at PEOC to 9:58,
You didn't even read my response.

No one's testimony is in the actual report. I ponted that out to you.

The report says Cheney was indeed already in the Operations Center, he just didn't get to the main conference room until 9:58.

Did you read the report?

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like the shoot down order never happened,
You were using that bullshit to porve there was a STANDOWN order. Why are you trying to lie?

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you went off the track about it and started bullshitting.
By that you must mean "You went and pointed out what the report actually said".

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I'm not sure WHY you don't see it when it is, in fact, there.
Its as there as BigFoot.

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What I said about what went down on 9/11 is mostly speculative
by "mostly", you must mean "all"

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but still logical
By "logical", you must mean "retarded".

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and connected because it is based on what I have read and put together like puzzles,
No, what you cut-n-paste but never actually read. You take from other people's half assed work.

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that's why I usually change subjects because it's connected to one another.
No, its because its bullshit and you know it.

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But that was not what convinced me of the US govt's involvement in the attacks, it was their motives and reasons and the cover-ups.
And yet, OBL and al Queda don't show up on your list of "who benefits". Hell, you've implied occasionally that aq doesn't exist.

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The proof is there, you're just too in deep of a denial and scared shitless to be able to see it.
No, I'm too deep in reality.

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You cling onto the incompetence theory because it's more comforting for you.
Yaaaaaa. The fact that our trillion dollar government was asleep at the switch is real comforting. The fact that the world is mean, cold and chaotic is real comforting.


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The evidence is all there. Get a clue and do some research on your own.
You fucking hypocrite.

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You just have to see it. Think about the multiple warnings they've received and the FAA/military hijacking drills simulating planes crashing into buildings prior to 9/11, put the two together.
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When I came conclusion that the us government had a hand in the 9/11 attacks, I became committed in spreading the word about what I've discovered. It's harder than I thought it would be. Hitler or one of his nazi cronies said "the bigger the lie, the harder it is to see the truth."
I really wish you were committed.
Oct 5th, 2006 07:47 PM
Geggy Two planes hit the twin towers and 3 buildings collapsed. A plane hit the pentagon. Flight 93 crashed. Happy now?
Oct 5th, 2006 07:35 PM
Grislygus Once again, the real meat of the questions are ignored.

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Originally Posted by Geggy
you went off the track about it and started bullshitting
The irony in the air is forcing its way down my throat and beating the crap out of my lungs.
Oct 5th, 2006 07:11 PM
Geggy
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Originally Posted by El Blanco
I don't get it? You don't think those were planes that hit the Towers?
No, I'm trying to prove my point that it's in Fox News interest to focus on the most outrageous theories in order to ridicule and discredit the movement while ignoring the hard evidence pointing the US govt's guilt, like the phoenix memo, W-199I form, warnings, wargames, isi-cia connections, etc.
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Geggy, I think you know its bullshit. Each time you get confronted about it, you change your story.

You try and use grainy stills to show "squibs". then, you try and say there was a stand down order. When that gets shot to hell, you tell me I shouldn't worry about what actually happened, just look at who benefits.
Sorry but I stopped arguing with you when you become intellectually dishonest. It's a huge turn off for me. When I told you mineta confirmed he had arrived the PEOC at 9:20 and cheney was already there. The 9/11 commission in fact omitted mineta's claim and changed cheney's time of arrival at PEOC to 9:58, like the shoot down order never happened, you went off the track about it and started bullshitting. I'm not sure WHY you don't see it when it is, in fact, there.

What I said about what went down on 9/11 is mostly speculative but still logical and connected because it is based on what I have read and put together like puzzles, that's why I usually change subjects because it's connected to one another. But that was not what convinced me of the US govt's involvement in the attacks, it was their motives and reasons and the cover-ups. The proof is there, you're just too in deep of a denial and scared shitless to be able to see it. You cling onto the incompetence theory because it's more comforting for you.
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Hey, monkey boy, you can't go talking about motive when you can't prove a crime.
The evidence is all there. Get a clue and do some research on your own. You just have to see it. Think about the multiple warnings they've received and the FAA/military hijacking drills simulating planes crashing into buildings prior to 9/11, put the two together.

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Either answer those or just admit you are some lonely attention whore attaching himself to this bullshit in order to make himself feel special.
When I came conclusion that the us government had a hand in the 9/11 attacks, I became committed in spreading the word about what I've discovered. It's harder than I thought it would be. Hitler or one of his nazi cronies said "the bigger the lie, the harder it is to see the truth."
Oct 5th, 2006 05:51 PM
KevinTheOmnivore I love you, Geggy. And not in the Foley kinda way...
Oct 5th, 2006 05:15 PM
Geggy WHOA!!

Rice More Sordid Than Foley

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/1004-33.htm

by Robert Scheer

They are such liars. And no, I am not speaking only of the dissembling GOP House leaders led by Speaker Dennis Hastert who, out of naked political calculation, covered up for one of their own in the sordid teen stalking case of Rep. Mark Foley.

Call me old school, but I am still more concerned with the Republicans molesting Lady Liberty while pretending to be guarding the nation's security, an assignment which they have totally botched. The news about the Foley coverup, while important as yet another example of extreme hypocrisy on the part of the Republican virtues police, should not be allowed to obscure the latest evidence of administration deceit as to its egregious ineptness in protecting the nation.

On Monday, a State Department spokesman conceded that then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice had indeed been briefed in July 2001 by George Tenet, then-director of the CIA, about the alarming potential for an Al Qaeda attack, as Bob Woodward has reported in his aptly named new book, "State of Denial."

"I don't remember a so-called emergency meeting," Rice had said only hours earlier, apparently still suffering from some sort of post-9/11 amnesia that seemed to afflict her during her forced testimony to the 9/11 Commission. The omission of this meeting from the final commission report is another example of how the Bush administration undermined the bipartisan investigation that the president had tried to prevent. Surely lying under oath in what was arguably the most important official investigation in the nation's history should be treated more seriously than the evasiveness in the Paula Jones case that got President Bill Clinton impeached. Nor is it just Rice who should be challenged, for Tenet seems to have provided Woodward with details concerning the administration's indifference to the terrorist threat that he did not share with the 9/11 Commission.

In his book, Woodward described an encounter between Rice and Tenet, in a near panic about a rising flood of intelligence warnings just presented to him by top aide Cofer Black. Tenet forced an unscheduled meeting with Rice on July 10, 2001, because he wanted the Bush administration to take action immediately against Al Qaeda to disrupt a possible domestic attack.

"Tenet ... decided he and Black should go to the White House immediately. Tenet called Condoleezza Rice, then national security adviser, from the car and said he needed to see her right away," Woodward reports. "He and Black hoped to convey the depth of their anxiety and get Rice to kick-start the government into immediate action." A mountain of evidence proves that the Bush administration did nothing of the sort.

Now, if Rice truly does not remember that now-confirmed meeting-which was apparently first reported in the Aug. 4, 2002, Time magazine in an article titled "Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented?"-wouldn't that indicate she didn't take it that seriously? Not remembering confirms her inattention to terror reports at a time the Bush administration was already fixated on "regime change" in Iraq.

Rice is famously sharp and has an awesome memory. Considering the trauma of 9/11 and its effects, it is inconceivable that Rice would not recall such an ominous and prescient briefing by Tenet and Black, especially after the 9/11 Commission forced her to document and review her actions in those crucial months.

It is, however, as she stated Monday, "incomprehensible" that she, then the national security advisor to the president and the person most clearly charged with sounding the alarm, would have ignored the threat. But ignore it the administration did, and then later tried to lay the blame on the Clinton administration, which, Rice claimed at the 9/11 Commission hearings, lied when it said it had given the incoming White House team an action plan for fighting Al Qaeda.

"We were not presented with a plan," Rice infamously argued under questioning from then-Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.), but instead were given a memo with "a series of actionable items" describing how to tackle Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

Such weaseling would be funny if the topic were not so serious. But there is no way Rice can squirm out of this one, despite her impressive track record of calculated distortion on everything from Iraq's nonexistent WMDs to the trumped-up ties between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Can there be any better case for turning over control of at least one branch of Congress to the opposition party so that we might finally have hearings to learn the truth of this matter, which is far more important, and sordid, than the Foley affair?

Robert Scheer is the editor of truthdig.com and author of "Playing President." E-mail: rscheer@truthdig.com.

© 2006 TruthDig.com, LLC

OH SHIT!!

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Hastert Still Against Giving 9/11 Panel More Time

By Dan Eggen

Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 26, 2004; Page A04

House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) has hardened his opposition to extending the deadline for the independent commission studying the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, even as the panel's leaders pleaded yesterday for more time to complete their work.

Hastert told Republican lawmakers in a meeting yesterday that he will not bring up any legislation to grant the commission extra time, said spokesman John Feehery. Hastert rejected a personal plea from White House Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. on the extension Monday, Feehery said.

Rest of article here

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...&notFound=true
Oct 5th, 2006 09:37 AM
Grislygus I asked him a simple, unavoidable question regarding the subject of hijacker nationality. That didn't seem to make a dent.
Oct 5th, 2006 08:08 AM
El Blanco I don't get it? You don't think those were planes that hit the Towers?

Geggy, I think you know its bullshit. Each time you get confronted about it, you change your story.

You try and use grainy stills to show "squibs". then, you try and say there was a stand down order. When that gets shot to hell, you tell me I shouldn't worry about what actually happened, just look at who benefits.

Hey, monkey boy, you can't go talking about motive when you can't prove a crime.

Its retarded. You aren't adapting one story to fit around the evidence, you wrap the evidence to fit a story. Once the story is completly shredded, you jump to the next one that is completly different.

I'm going to make this as simple as possible. I want some direct answers. No cryptic responses, no cut-n-paste articles that have nothing to do with the topic, no vague references to "government insiders" that are actually newspaper reporters from Egypt.

Answer these simple questions:

1) What happened to WTC?

2) What happened to the Pentagon?

3) What happened in Shanksville?

Either answer those or just admit you are some lonely attention whore attaching himself to this bullshit in order to make himself feel special.
Oct 5th, 2006 06:52 AM
Geggy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQZT9Hzvt8&eurl=
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