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Mar 5th, 2004 03:43 PM
mburbank "Let me go on the record as saying that "polls" won't mean shit until October"

I agree. That's why I think it's stupid to post articles about polls. Especially when you say afterwards that's not why you posted them.
Mar 5th, 2004 03:24 PM
punkgrrrlie10
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Originally Posted by Baalzamon

Unless the bush administration screws up enough to really, really make people notice and get angry, they will win. Looking at what they are currently getting away with, I shudder to think of what the magnitude of such a screw up could be.
You think they are getting away with it? I think people are noticing quite a bit.
Mar 5th, 2004 02:53 PM
AChimp It is. You just have to water it down.
Mar 5th, 2004 02:11 PM
Royal Tenenbaum
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Originally Posted by AChimp
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Although I think they are ruining the country, I'm pretty sure the republican party is clever enough to dig up enough on this guy to ruin his image throughly before november. I predict a solid victory for bush this time, at least 5-10 percentage points.
Yeah, but you also predicted that the Iraqis would band together and massacre American soldiers in droves. :P
Yeah, but you predicted peanut butter would make a good lube for masturbation.
Mar 5th, 2004 08:54 AM
AChimp
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Although I think they are ruining the country, I'm pretty sure the republican party is clever enough to dig up enough on this guy to ruin his image throughly before november. I predict a solid victory for bush this time, at least 5-10 percentage points.
Yeah, but you also predicted that the Iraqis would band together and massacre American soldiers in droves. :P
Mar 5th, 2004 12:48 AM
Baalzamon Although I wouldnt vote for him, I think bush will win.

Kerry is too easy to pin as a "liberal", and there are too many issues hes flip-floped on. His voting record alone will leave him so busy defending himself that his current "momentum" will be all but spent come november.

Although I think they are ruining the country, I'm pretty sure the republican party is clever enough to dig up enough on this guy to ruin his image throughly before november. I predict a solid victory for bush this time, at least 5-10 percentage points.

There are also enough potential war on terror related factors that could pop up all of a sudden and give a boost in time for november. If the republican party is smart they are arranging the timing of key events in the war over the next few months to make themselves look good.

And as much as that may sound bad, its only sound political strategy. Why do something amazing right now when you can wait a few months and get the same result, but with better timing for yourself?

Unless the bush administration screws up enough to really, really make people notice and get angry, they will win. Looking at what they are currently getting away with, I shudder to think of what the magnitude of such a screw up could be.
Mar 4th, 2004 10:52 PM
KevinTheOmnivore And let me go on the record as saying that Ronnie only believes in polls when they are agreeable to him.
Mar 4th, 2004 09:22 PM
Ronnie Raygun Well, that's a "poll" for you....

You can't have it both ways.

Let me go on the record as saying that "polls" won't mean shit until October.

I didn't post this to start an argument or to say if the election were held today, Bush would win the election.

Just read the article, it's a good read.
Mar 4th, 2004 07:38 PM
Rez a poll with 771 registered voters... yeah, it should be pretty accurate.
Mar 4th, 2004 07:06 PM
Ronnie Raygun
Close....but Bush is ahead....and Nadar may be a factor.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040304/D813PD7G1.html

AP Poll Finds Bush, Kerry Tied in Race

Mar 4, 3:50 PM (ET)

By WILL LESTER

WASHINGTON (AP) - In the first poll since John Kerry locked up the Democratic nomination, Kerry and President Bush are tied while independent Ralph Nader has captured enough support to affect the outcome, validating Democrats' fears.

The Republican incumbent had the backing of 46 percent, Kerry 45 percent and Nader, the 2000 Green Party candidate who entered the race last month, was at 6 percent in the survey conducted for The Associated Press by Ipsos-Public Affairs.

Bush and the four-term Massachusetts senator, who emerged as the nominee Tuesday after a string of primary race wins over several rivals, have been running close or Kerry has been ahead in most recent polls that did not include Nader.

Since Nader entered the race Feb. 22, campaign strategists and political analysts have been trying to assess the impact of another presidential bid by the consumer activist whom Democrats blame for Al Gore's loss in 2000.

Four years ago, Nader appeared on the ballot in 43 states and Washington, D.C., garnering only 2.7 percent of the vote. But in Florida and New Hampshire, Bush won such narrow victories that had Gore received the bulk of Nader's votes in those states, he would have won the general election.

Exit polls from 2000 show that about half of Nader's voters would have backed Gore in a two-way race. Nader dismisses the spoiler label.

While Nader's support in the AP-Ipsos poll was 6 percent, his backing in polls in 2000 fluctuated in the single digits - often at about 4 percent, but sometimes higher. This year, Nader is unlikely to get the Green Party nod and faces a stiff challenge in getting his name on the ballot in 50 states.

Kenneth Freeman, an 86-year-old retiree from New Smyrna Beach, Fla., who leans Democratic, was clearly unhappy with Nader's presidential bid.

"Ralph Nader is fouling it all up," Freeman said. "He's taking votes away from the Democrats. I think he's on an ego trip."

Bush's job approval in the AP-Ipsos poll was 48 percent, with 49 percent disapproving, which is essentially the same as last month when 47 percent approved of the president's job performance.

His approval rating, which soared close to 90 percent after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and remained high for months, has dipped to the lowest levels of his presidency in recent weeks.

Six in 10 said the country is on the wrong track, up from last month, while slightly more than a third of those surveyed - 35 percent - said the country is headed in the right direction.

"We're 240-something days from Election Day. We've got a long way to go and expect it to be a close race throughout, no matter what the factors are," said Terry Holt, a spokesman for the Bush campaign.

The poll was conducted Monday through Wednesday as Kerry captured nine of 10 Super Tuesday elections and claimed the nomination. Nightly results suggested that Kerry did not get a bounce from winning the nomination.

"For all those who want to bring change to America, we need to remain united behind the Democratic nominee," said Kerry campaign spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter.

Kerry, who had solid backing from 28 percent of the voters, was running strong among minorities, people with low incomes, single people, older voters and Catholics.

Bush, who had solid backing from 37 percent, performed well among whites, men, Protestants, homeowners and suburban dwellers.

"I'm worried about the Democrats taking control," said Stephanie Rahaniotis, a Republican from Lynbrook, N.Y. She said after the Sept. 11 attacks, she feels safer with Bush in charge and thinks Democrats will "divert our attention from the military."

In the poll, Nader was most likely to get the backing of young adults, independents and maybe a GOP voter.

Republican Virgil Ahlberg of Apison, Tenn., said he is seriously considering a vote for Nader.

"Bush has come across as a little more aggressive and warlike than I like," he said. "I like Ralph Nader being in the race. I like his practicality and taking people to task for things they promise to do, things that aren't being addressed."

The AP-Ipsos poll of 771 registered voters was taken March 1-3 and had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

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