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| Jan 22nd, 2006 10:39 PM | ||
| Kulturkampf |
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| Jan 22nd, 2006 12:48 PM | ||
| ziggytrix |
Cuz even a poor man can make a bomb now with "kitchen timers, milk jugs and petrol" and, sadly, blowing things up sends a louder message than destruction of merchandise. 
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| Jan 22nd, 2006 12:43 PM | ||
| the_dudefather | why dont current day terrorists empty massive quantities of coca-cola into the sea to teach the US a lesson :P | |
| Jan 22nd, 2006 12:36 PM | ||
| ziggytrix |
Looking just at dictionary definitions, the only difference between a vandal and a non-lethal terrorist (I guess we need a new term here  ) is political intent.If you guys think a group calling themselves "The Sons of Liberty" didn't have politcal intent, then fine. |
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| Jan 22nd, 2006 10:21 AM | ||
| Geggy |
I agree with Blanco that Boston Tea Party wasn't an act of terrorism. I agree with ziggy that ALF's purposes are acts of terrorism in order to instill fear into business people that their businesses would plummet economically if any more bombings or arson should occur in the future. Funny thing, as I'm typing this, my girlfriend was telling me about an adult video store next town that had been vandalized by arsonists last night. That's the second adult video store in massachusetts in a week thats been torched. I hate these people. 
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| Jan 22nd, 2006 07:19 AM | ||
| Kulturkampf | It is not terrorism, but rather it is vandalism. But I am never going to pretend that they have a good point in their cause; rather, I will simply note that they really are not terrorists in the least and saying as much is ridiculous. | |
| Jan 21st, 2006 09:00 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
"It was meant to hurt them financially and to emphasize their grievances. " Kind of like attacking the Center of World Trade. |
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| Jan 21st, 2006 08:26 PM | ||
| ziggytrix |
My wacky definition came straight outta The American Heritage Dictionary. Was Ghandi into "unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons." I didn't think that was how he rolled, but you prolly know more about it than me. |
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| Jan 21st, 2006 08:12 PM | ||
| AChimp |
Ghandi was a terrorist. And I agree with Ziggy. |
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| Jan 21st, 2006 07:35 PM | ||
| El Blanco |
No, its when you are targeting them with violence in order to scare them. You know, to instill terror. By your whacky defenition, Ghandi was a terrorist. |
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| Jan 21st, 2006 07:23 PM | ||
| ziggytrix | Oh, terrorism is only when you threaten to kill people? So, these dipshits in the ALF aren't terrorists in your book? | |
| Jan 21st, 2006 06:29 PM | ||
| El Blanco |
No it wasn't. It was meant to hurt them financially and to emphasize their grievances. It was, "We don't want your overpriced tea" not "give us what we wwant or we start pblowing up civilians". |
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| Jan 21st, 2006 05:11 PM | ||
| ziggytrix | The East India Company and the Colonial government. | |
| Jan 21st, 2006 04:54 PM | ||
| El Blanco | Who was it meant to scare? | |
| Jan 21st, 2006 04:43 PM | ||
| ziggytrix | Just to be a snarky bitch, I should mention the Boston Tea Party was an act of terrorism. | |
| Jan 21st, 2006 03:48 PM | ||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
US 'eco-terrorists' face charges The only reason I'm posting this story is because of this photo:  Every terrorist should take a photo with a puppy. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4633646.stm US 'eco-terrorists' face charges Eleven people have been charged in the US for an alleged five-year arson spree that justice officials called a "vast eco-terrorist conspiracy". A total of 65 charges were laid for the attacks in five western states which the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front admitted carrying out. The 11 were known as The Family. Three are still at large. The damage to the targets, including forest ranger stations and meat processing plants, ran to $23m (£13m). Other targets included the Vail skiing area, a wild horse facility, a power line and timber companies. Milk jugs The attacks took place in the states of Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Wyoming and California from 1996 to 2001. The charges were announced by US Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and the FBI's director, Robert Mueller. Mr Gonzales said the indictment told a story "of arson, vandalism, violence and destruction" by "extremist movements known to support acts of domestic terrorism". It is alleged the five women and six men engaged in a conspiracy to firebomb businesses using devices made from kitchen timers, milk jugs and petrol. Mr Gonzales said the 11 used intimidation and coercion to try to influence the conduct of government and private businesses. Mr Mueller said terrorism was terrorism, no matter what the motive. The justice department said the conspirators took oaths to protect each other from the police and FBI - making it a long and difficult investigation. One of the defendants in custody is a fire-fighter, another works in a home for the disabled. The three at large - Joseph Dibee, Josephine Overaker and Rebecca Rubin - are believed to be living outside the US. Last May, senior FBI counter-terrorism expert John Lewis said so-called eco-warriors had committed 1,200 criminal acts between 1990 and 2004 in the US, causing millions of dollars of damage. |
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