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Jan 11th, 2004 10:59 PM | |||
El Blanco | The Pats would give it to him, but then they wouldn't have enough to buy off the refs. | ||
Jan 11th, 2004 07:45 AM | |||
theapportioner | I for one think Adam Vinatieri deserves $10 mil/year | ||
Jan 11th, 2004 05:57 AM | |||
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Jan 10th, 2004 10:34 PM | |||
El Blanco |
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By the way: What is the American Dream? |
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Jan 10th, 2004 02:50 PM | |||
Anonymous | I'd be lying if I said I respected either CEO's or pro athletes. | ||
Jan 10th, 2004 02:42 PM | |||
punkgrrrlie10 |
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Jan 10th, 2004 12:14 PM | |||
Protoclown | No no no, I'm talking about WATCHING movies and LISTENING to music, you fucking twat. | ||
Jan 10th, 2004 10:39 AM | |||
The One and Only... | Art is not immune to the market process. Those whose art creates more pleasure recieve more wealth. Artists are, in many ways, entrepeneurs themself. Or, at least, they would be in a market society. | ||
Jan 10th, 2004 10:35 AM | |||
Protoclown | Oh, for the love of god...just go hang out on the music or movies forum for a while. You might learn something important over there. Seriously. | ||
Jan 10th, 2004 10:20 AM | |||
The One and Only... | The entrepeneur should make the most money. He is, after all, the most valuable to society's material advancement. | ||
Jan 10th, 2004 12:13 AM | |||
Brandon |
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Jan 10th, 2004 12:03 AM | |||
AChimp | I think the distinction between the two comes from the fact that the "evil CEO" has a real job, whereas athletes get paid to run around and play catch. | ||
Jan 9th, 2004 10:35 PM | |||
Brandon |
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Jan 9th, 2004 07:52 PM | |||
FartinMowler | They (professional atheletes) perform magical feats for your entertainment and you pay a huge sum as a form of insurance that if injured they won't have to suffer. Ceo's? have nothing to do with the american dream. | ||
Jan 9th, 2004 06:53 PM | |||
Anonymous |
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Americans do not "forgive" corporate raiders more readily than pro athletes. Just because you (ArtificialBrandon) are hearing all about Kobe's rape trial instead of Martha Stewart's legal troubles does not mean that Americans have forgiven the aforementioned embezzlers. They also consider said rich white man to be greedy. |
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Jan 9th, 2004 06:08 PM | |||
Brandon |
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I FIGURED, for the purposes of an INFORMAL discussion, that I could get away with a broad term like "Americans" because not only does it imply "the majority of" or "in general," but most of us could probably name at least a handful of people in our own lives who grumble about pro athletes. BUT TELL YOU WHAT. Next time I even THINK of hitting the "Post New Topic" button, I'll present a years worth of research in specific language and excruciating detail, JUST SO I WON'T UPSET YOUR DELICATE SENSIBILITES, MMK? |
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Jan 9th, 2004 04:07 PM | |||
kellychaos |
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P.S. Unless they're a super-athlete at the top of the sport, no matter how much professional athletes make, their pay pales in comparison to what the team owners and executive of an organization make due to the athletes. Most athletes at the top of their game probably make more per year from product endorsementst than from their annual salary. |
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Jan 9th, 2004 04:01 PM | |||
punkgrrrlie10 | I don't think athletes are greedy. I think they get what they deserve. They are the ones killing themselves out on the field every week, and they are the ones drawing in the crowds. Better the entertainers themselves get it rather than the owners. If a person brings in a couple billion for another, I believe they deserve their share. They've earned it. And those guys aren't playing until they are 70 so they have to make enough to support their familes for the rest of their lives when they are done. So who are these "americans" you speak of that think they are greedy? Again a generalization probably on a sampling of people that you have been exposed to rather than a diverse sampling of people that represent the spectrum. | ||
Jan 9th, 2004 12:48 PM | |||
Protoclown | OMG OMG SPINSTER | ||
Jan 9th, 2004 08:39 AM | |||
theapportioner | That's because Americans are distracted by this weekend's NFL playoff games. | ||
Jan 9th, 2004 06:20 AM | |||
Brandon |
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Jan 9th, 2004 01:26 AM | |||
Anonymous |
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And who's this "we" that aren't calling corporate robber barons greedy? |
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Jan 8th, 2004 11:48 PM | |||
El Blanco |
This is a capitalist system. Atheletes make these huge salaries because people are willing to pay for it. People get upset because these salaries get flaunted in front of us. Of course, when some of these guys do stupid shit, it doesn't help. Same goes for CEOs and such. I know a lot of you hate to admit this, but they do earn their money. You have to bust your ass to get that far. Connections might get you in the door, but all the true power people. They get those huge salaries with off the wall bonuses because its what they are promised in their contracts. This is not to say that the bastards who screwed over the Enron investors and employees shouldn't be dragged through the streets and hanged by their toes. |
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Jan 8th, 2004 10:48 PM | |||
Suck 'n' Fuck |
Sspad, I agree. Justice (or lack thereof) should not be for sale. I think that professional athletes should be paid a pretty respectable amount, like no more than $100,000 a year. I also think that the wealthy should have a much higher rate of taxation in order to fund social programs and the like in order to redistribute the wealth. changing the regulations for businesses would be a good idea so they don't assfuck their customers, employees, and the economy, and a couple of other things I can't be bothered to think of. |
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Jan 8th, 2004 10:45 PM | |||
Brandon | Hijack? Nah. Anytime someone wants to bash corporate crooks it's ok by me. | ||
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