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| Sep 19th, 2003 01:42 PM | ||
| mburbank | All things to all people, baby. That's me. | |
| Sep 19th, 2003 12:56 PM | ||
| Cosmo Electrolux |
wow Max...I never thought I could love a man the way I love you...
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| Sep 19th, 2003 10:28 AM | ||
| mburbank |
I assume your speaking of Matthew 14, since I think tht's the only palce you'll find it. Allow me. 28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. 29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. One wonders why such a great story only shows up in one out of three texts. Only in 30 is the translation 'shore' less approrpiatte, and I suspect it's an embellishment. Certainly a single sentence written in a book doesn't constitute proof or truth. Not all writing is factual reporting, after all. But as usual, you miss the point, which is, why are you so hot and bothered about 'prooving' your religion and pointing out that others lack 'proof'. Leaving aside entirely that you have no idea what the word means or how to use it, why do you care so passionately. I can't see this as anything but evidence of a very weak and shallow faith. |
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| Sep 19th, 2003 09:49 AM | ||
| VinceZeb |
Sure max, whatever you say. I guess Jesus didn't walk on the water, he just walked on the shore. And when he asked a disciple to walk out on the water to meet him, he just meant up the creek a bit. And when that disciple lacked faith and fell into the water, I guess he tripped on a log and feel into the water. Whatever you say, Max. Keep believing your "translations" all you want. Continue to be wrong and misinformed. It suits you well. |
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| Sep 19th, 2003 09:31 AM | ||
| mburbank |
Now, Vinth, since you frequently bring up mistranslation in the English language bible, I'd have thought you were aware that the passge where Jesus walks on the water igores the more correct translation, 'by the water', as in 'on the shore'. The ressurection of Jesus is reported by a small handfull of people, far less than the number who being abducted by UFO's in any year. Your regrding it as fact, and therefore proof of the divinity of Jesus has to flaws. First, since the eyewitness reports are in no way provable, they do not constitue proof. Second, IF Jesus was raised from the dead, why should I believe Him any more divine than Lazarus, whom Jesus raised? Why is it not possible that God raised them both? I don't question your faith. Faith is good. Muddying up faith by childishly insisting it's provable is weak. Your pathalogical need for others to accept that your religion is a proven set of facts shows You have a chip on your shoulder. I suggest you remove it and the beam in your eye. |
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| Sep 19th, 2003 07:07 AM | ||
| VinceZeb |
You have not made one solid point besides standard anti-religious banter and yet you call me stupid. And try to pick up your clever sayings from somewhere other than a horror movie. I know you are a visitor to the main site of this message board which means that humor, and i use that term VERY loosely, is your only defense against debates which involve using words that are more than one syllable. |
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| Sep 18th, 2003 10:44 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
"Uhhhh.... Jesus never claimed he was divine?" That is what I read with my "Inept" reading skills. That is why I quoted it before I commented upon it. More importantly than that, shut up. This thread clearly stated buddhism, the spark of stupidity in your brain and the retarded three year old whispering REDRUM DAERHT doesnt give you permission to talk, unless you can actually muster up the brain stems to comment upon something other than your ignorance of the christian religion. |
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| Sep 18th, 2003 11:27 AM | ||
| Bennett |
mmmmmmmmm Jesus, you are sooo dee-vine. oooooooooooooweeeeeeeeeee! |
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| Sep 18th, 2003 11:13 AM | ||
| Perndog | Jesus, huh? What did he ever do to deserve capitalization of his pronouns? | |
| Sep 18th, 2003 09:58 AM | ||
| Zhukov |
Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up. But which is it, God or Jesus? |
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| Sep 18th, 2003 09:54 AM | ||
| VinceZeb | If you talk about Jesus Christ or God in any written text, it is capitalized to be He. | |
| Sep 18th, 2003 09:27 AM | ||
| Zhukov |
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Do you mean Jesus said he himself was devine, or are you saying "He" as a substitute for "God" ? |
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| Sep 18th, 2003 09:10 AM | ||
| VinceZeb | kaljorn, are you fucking stupid? Honestly, are you this inept at reading or writing? Throught the New Testament, Jesus Christ has said He was divine, that He was the Son of God, that He was one and the same as the Lord. His Ressurection just solidifed his claims. Now, Jesus was divine. His coming back from the dead proved He wasn't a hoaxer. Now, if you don't know why this conversation took place, I suggest you learn how to read. Once obtaining the skill of reading written English, if you do not understand why this point was brought up, then I suggest you go play with your tinkertoys in an atomic test field. | |
| Sep 18th, 2003 12:13 AM | ||
| kahljorn |
"Jesus never claimed he was divine?" "all they did was come to an agreement that he was divine" I want to know your definition of "Divine", because I can go through the bible and plenty of places where he said he was the son of God(Let me guess, being the son of God isn't divine?) or made Divine statements. Now you can try to respond with a cop out of your stupidity, but I will just laugh. Also, shut up. If you learned to read you would notice this thread talks about buddhism, of which you know nothing. Why do I know this? Because you are an adament Ultra Christian THumper and yet you don't know shit about Jesus or God. |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 11:03 PM | ||
| AChimp |
Maybe he was never dead to begin with! The plot thickens... |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 10:50 PM | ||
| VinceZeb |
Kelly, all they did was come to an agreement that he was divine. I think RISING FROM THE FUCKING DEAD AND WALKING ON WATER are divine acts. Dumbfuck. |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 09:02 PM | ||
| kahljorn | I still think it's sad that every thread turns into a christian discussion thread. Detaach from your Christian upbringings, chilledren. | |
| Sep 17th, 2003 01:44 PM | ||
| kellychaos |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 11:28 AM | ||
| Perndog | I define a religion as any philosophy that has specific teachings and makes metaphysical statements. This would include Buddhism and other organized groups with no gods, but would exclude deism, atheism, etc. I don't believe in any gods, but I still consider myself to belong to and practice a religion. | |
| Sep 17th, 2003 10:56 AM | ||
| Vibecrewangel |
Yeah I think a lot of the confusion comes from Western vs Eastern concepts. As well as language translation. But regardless....I believe it to be a philosophy. edit: confusion...::giggle::.....Eastern.....funny typo |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 08:47 AM | ||
| FS | Finding a suitable definition for religion that everyone can agree on might be tough, but I personally think Buddhism would not qualify as a religion since there's no worship involved. That is, if you're practicing Buddhism the way it was intended. | |
| Sep 17th, 2003 08:42 AM | ||
| VinceZeb |
Uhhhh.... Jesus never claimed he was divine? What the hell did this person read about Jesus Christ? |
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| Sep 17th, 2003 02:09 AM | ||
| kahljorn | Some people regard it as a religion, they have golden buddha statues and ask him for guidance. Others aren't idiots. | |
| Sep 16th, 2003 04:45 PM | ||
| Vibecrewangel |
LOL Actually MAx....that sort of sums it up in an odd way. The answer is both yes and no.....depending on how you look at it. |
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| Sep 16th, 2003 03:48 PM | ||
| mburbank |
My beliefs lead me to believe the belief that it's a philosiphy but if I are arguing at the proofs of it as regards the five major religions I have to say it is a religion becuase that's what other arguers are saying of it. Now; some religions can be proved out but some you would just laugh at the religioner which is the ones that aren't religions but philosiphies. Anyway that's what I belive my beliefs are and also If you don't believe in Jesus you go to hell. Simple, I know, but then most complicated things are. I'm kidding, of course. I'll read it. |
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