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| May 22nd, 2004 12:51 PM | ||
| kellychaos |
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| May 22nd, 2004 12:40 PM | ||
| Helm | Yes, thank you and fuck off. Back to your penile introspection or something. | |
| May 22nd, 2004 10:46 AM | ||
| The One and Only... | Eternity relates only to time, while infinity can relate to anything, such as space. | |
| May 22nd, 2004 12:22 AM | ||
| kahljorn |
You are speaking the language of modifiers, I am speaking the language of the crisp and pure, two different things. I suppose you shouldn't confuse your philosophy with mathematics, and should learn to think somehow greater than whatever crap you have read and decided to reliterate. Also, eternal is a theological term, philosophy and theology are different. |
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| May 22nd, 2004 12:19 AM | ||
| Perndog | Alright, works for me. | |
| May 21st, 2004 11:14 PM | ||
| Sethomas | Well, strictly speaking infinity is a mathematical term, whereas eternity is philosophical. The philosophical equivalent to infinity, as something that has beginning but no end, is immortal. In conventional theology, the soul is immortal but God is eternal, for example. | |
| May 21st, 2004 11:08 PM | ||
| Perndog | I was asking for a philosophical source which differentiates the two terms. Philosophy and mathematics don't speak the same language; as far as any philosophy I've read is concerned, infinity and eternity are perfect synonyms and are used interchangeably (except eternity is preferred when referring to time). | |
| May 21st, 2004 10:49 PM | ||
| Sethomas | The working definition that I use for "eternity" comes from De Consolatione Philosophia, De Civitate Dei, and Summa Theologica. For an understanding of infinity, I rest on my modest education in mathematics. | |
| May 21st, 2004 10:44 PM | ||
| Perndog | Seth, will you cite one source that differentiates "infinity" and "eternity" so we will know you're not making it up? | |
| May 21st, 2004 08:26 PM | ||
| Sethomas |
You're dumb. Infinity is not the same thing as eternity. And infinity has a definite beginning, which is 0. That's why in math we refer to "negative infinity" separately. But you're obviously above conventional notions like mathematical or philosophical reasoning, so I don't know why I bother. Oh yeah, because your pathetic attempts amuse me. |
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| May 21st, 2004 06:47 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
You can say something like, "Infinite Time" or "Boundless time" or "Limitless time". This means without a begining or end, this is the idea of word combinations, to change meanings. Also, infinite includes more than just being outside of time, it is an infinite term, now stop your weak arguments. "INFINITE"S NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR ME", you really are a little slow aren't you. The bible says many times that god has "Infinite Wisdom", and infinite can be applied to more than one scenario. What do you think infinite wisdom means. Do you think that means it ends somewhere, that if you ask him a co mplicated enough problem he won't know what it means. Think about it. Saying God is infinite is like saying god is infinite in his infinite aspects, infinitley. Infinite's better, now go bitch somewhere else. INFINITE CUBED INFINITLEY. The infinite faces of God. Yada yada. |
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| May 21st, 2004 06:42 PM | ||
| Sethomas | So... you still lack a point? | |
| May 21st, 2004 06:39 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
Want to know something neat. Infinite can be used as an adjective, this means you can attach words to it that give it different meanings, like infinte regression. Wow, nice job stupid fuck, "Can" have a lower limit. You are a philisophical genius! |
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| May 21st, 2004 06:23 PM | ||
| Sethomas |
Actually, calculus goes against you yet again. An infinite regression can in fact have a lower limit, so infinity does in fact have beginning. And you're wasting your time with dictionary entries, since they're not meant to be philosophically rigorous. I already supplied my definition from my sources. Not like that concerns you, anyways. |
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| May 21st, 2004 05:45 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
uhh, infinite has no begining, like when you make a line on a graph. Now that line may seem like it starts where you started it, but depending on the ratio it will go backwards and forwards, infinitley. What the fuck is this. If there was "Infinite Time" then it would have to go BOTH ways, INFINITLEY. "infi·nite·ly adv. infi·nite·ness n. Synonyms: infinite, boundless, eternal, illimitable, sempiternal These adjectives mean being without beginning or end: infinite wisdom; boundless ambition; eternal beauty; illimitable space; sempiternal truth. See also synonyms at incalculable The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved." |
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| May 21st, 2004 05:14 PM | ||
| Brandon |
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Infinity can have a beginning; eternity does not. |
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| May 21st, 2004 03:48 PM | ||
| kellychaos |
A dictionary! Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? 
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| May 21st, 2004 03:13 PM | ||
| kahljorn |
OKAY EVERYONE ETERNITY ISNT INFINITY, NOT THAT ANY OF US HAVE PERMISSION TO CHANGE THE TOPIC, WE DO NOT. ONLY SETH HAS THAT POWER. Eternity and infinity cannot be discussed in the same sentence, because seth gets confused. "Infinity n : time without end [syn: eternity, forever] Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University" "eternity \E*ter"ni*ty\, n.; pl. Eternities. [F. ['e]ternit['e], L. aeternitas, fr. aeternus. See Etern.] 1. Infinite duration, without beginning in the past or end in the future; also, duration without end in the future; endless time." wee |
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| May 21st, 2004 01:44 PM | ||
| Anonymouse | God loves you. | |
| May 21st, 2004 04:30 AM | ||
| Brandon | I'd like to take this moment to apologize for starting this thread. | |
| May 21st, 2004 02:39 AM | ||
| Sethomas |
ETERNITY ISN'T INFINITY. 
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| May 21st, 2004 01:45 AM | ||
| Anonymouse | Finite minds cannot comprehend the infinite. | |
| May 20th, 2004 05:31 PM | ||
| sspadowsky | I'll go you one better, Seth: This whole thread needs a :yawn emoticon. | |
| May 20th, 2004 05:18 PM | ||
| Sethomas | Maybe by your definition. Which SUCKS. | |
| May 20th, 2004 05:14 PM | ||
| kellychaos | If you can measure it, or have a knowledge of it by contemplating it, then it is not, by definition, eternal. You then would need to do more contemplating and so, ad infitum. I didn't say I didn't spend any time thinking about it. I just don't think about it all the time like some. :shrug | |
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