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Sep 22nd, 2006 04:36 PM
Fathom Zero Some stuff I keep, others I will buy because it's just so awesome and I'm a collector. The bad part is that I'm a collector and broke most of the time.

Oh, and I have stolen things before. Pah. I don't care for it much. I feel better behind my monitor and the false comfort of anonymity that it gives me.
Sep 22nd, 2006 04:33 PM
Zomboid And they both suck. Also, I'm pretty sure me downloading a video game isn't the same as a thug stealing an old lady's purse...and if it is, oh well. I don't feel any guilt over it :D
Sep 22nd, 2006 12:23 PM
Archduke Tips Whoops, double post.
Sep 22nd, 2006 12:11 PM
Archduke Tips How do you differentiate yourself from the rest of the scum in the cesspool that is humanity unless you hold some sort of morals and standards for behaviour?
Sep 22nd, 2006 10:53 AM
WhiteRat Fathom, stop trying to be such a model citizen. Just steal the shit for Zeus' sake.
Sep 22nd, 2006 07:04 AM
Fathom Zero I'm a "Try before you buy" kind of dude, and I DO buy... if it's worth my money.
Sep 22nd, 2006 06:43 AM
Archduke Tips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zomboid
When did you turn into such a little pussy?
I guess what happened is that I started making money, so I no longer felt the need to steal electronic media.
Sep 22nd, 2006 01:33 AM
kahljorn the word moral means custom usage or conduct while ethics means habit so you guys have bad habits of theft from stealing online so you're immoral it doesn't matter if someone sees you geez
Sep 21st, 2006 10:43 PM
Zomboid
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussoNWM
I see nothing wrong with recording songs from the radio. I still see file sharing as morally wrong.

One thing that really pisses me off about file sharing is when roommates take up all the internet bandwidth, so I can't even check my email or post on I-mockery because of them.
When did you turn into such a little pussy?
Sep 21st, 2006 09:30 PM
Juttin I'm a terrible criminal athiest, though
Sep 21st, 2006 09:09 PM
Grislygus How is file sharing different from taping it from the radio? Both are free, and in no way prevent other people from buying the song or cd.
Sep 21st, 2006 08:55 PM
Archduke Tips I see nothing wrong with recording songs from the radio. I still see file sharing as morally wrong.

One thing that really pisses me off about file sharing is when roommates take up all the internet bandwidth, so I can't even check my email or post on I-mockery because of them.
Sep 21st, 2006 08:19 PM
Grislygus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fathom Zero
So, it's only MORALLY wrong if someone sees you?
No, it's only morally wrong if you get caught. Then it's an outright sin.
Sep 21st, 2006 08:14 PM
Fathom Zero So, it's only MORALLY wrong if someone sees you?
Sep 21st, 2006 07:39 PM
Archduke Tips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fathom Zero
I use torrents so it doesn't suck the bandwidth from a site. It's a cheap way to get your crap out there and not have to put it on a server. I lurv it.

And by the way, Russo, what about music? You negelected to mention music.
I don't download music either. I record it when it plays on the radio. I guess that is slightly more moral.

Okay you got me there. But I do see a difference between that and file sharing. Nobody can track when I record a song from the radio.
Sep 21st, 2006 01:53 PM
executioneer i agree
Sep 21st, 2006 01:06 PM
Zomboid
Quote:
Originally Posted by RussoNWM
I don't file share. It is stealing, and it is wrong. If you want to play a game or watch a movie, then you should be willing to pay for the game or rent/buy/go to the movies.

It's not like you can't live without electronic media.

Sep 21st, 2006 09:29 AM
AChimp The only reason you're getting these letters is because you ended up downloading some small part of some file from one of the servers that the MPAA/RIAA sets up to share files. These servers act like any other torrent seed, but track all of the IPs that connect to it.

It has nothing to do with which BitTorrent client you're using (althought, theoretically, you could make a client that reports what files you download, but that wouldn't prove the actual contents of the file, only the filename). There's no such thing as an "official" BitTorrent client... BitTorrent is a protocol, not a specific program.

Use the thing that Chojin linked to, and this will stop you from connecting to the known spy servers.

If you start freaking out and delete all your stuff, that's what the MPAA/RIAA wants. They know they can't prosecute everyone, so they'll just trace your IP, tell your ISP to warn you with some legal cuntery and then forget about you. All of the students that got sued were dumb enough to be hosting 16,000 files off of the computer networks of public institutions where your IP can be traced down to the dormitory room you're in.
Sep 21st, 2006 07:11 AM
Fathom Zero I use torrents so it doesn't suck the bandwidth from a site. It's a cheap way to get your crap out there and not have to put it on a server. I lurv it.

And by the way, Russo, what about music? You negelected to mention music.
Sep 21st, 2006 06:43 AM
Archduke Tips I don't file share. It is stealing, and it is wrong. If you want to play a game or watch a movie, then you should be willing to pay for the game or rent/buy/go to the movies.

It's not like you can't live without electronic media.
Sep 21st, 2006 12:42 AM
kahljorn I don't use bit torrent that probably explains why still, that program sounds good.
Sep 21st, 2006 12:38 AM
Jeff The Ninja Thanks a Million Chojin. I never got an E-Mail like that before but Yeah, I download a lot of games (Current collection totals in at over 200 and counting!).

Just one question, for those who used Bittorrent and got that letter, are you using the actual bittorrent client or some secondary one like Bitcomet or Bittornado? It might have to do with Bittorrent teaming up with the MPAA.
Sep 21st, 2006 12:25 AM
kahljorn Wow. I've never gotten a message for anything like this before. I'll have to try that thing chojin reccomended.
Sep 21st, 2006 12:12 AM
Darryl My sister got one of those emails from Comcast and she freaked out. She was using Bit Torrent and downloaded some movie. This was a few weeks ago, and she's heard nothing since.....
Sep 20th, 2006 09:07 PM
Juttin Actually...Stratch that.

Very useful, Chojin.

Also, it doesn't even cut my connection rate.
525kbps on a 1 Gig. File
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