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| Apr 29th, 2004 09:28 AM | |||
| Emu |
Diametric means "opposite of." Liberal really only means a person who wants to change the status quo. Conservative means someone who doesn't. Simple as that. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 11:06 PM | |||
| ScruU2wice |
oh, maybe I didn't than. It really depends on the defenition of diametric 
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| Apr 28th, 2004 10:51 PM | |||
| Sethomas | In my history and social science classes, the definition of liberal is diametric to what it is today. I get confused. | ||
| Apr 28th, 2004 10:48 PM | |||
| ScruU2wice |
hey guys I just found out what Liberals and Conservatives are, in my social studies class
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| Apr 28th, 2004 08:37 PM | |||
| mburbank |
He didn't lie. The WMD were found. In fact, you can see the WMD right there as plain as the nose on your face in the sentence "We found the WMD!" The WMD are sitting there right after the word 'the'. Hidden in plain site. It's ironic. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 06:47 PM | |||
| sspadowsky |
Where's the picture? I looked at all three articles and didn't see any WMD pictures. I saw lots of "could have," "up to," and the like, but no photos of "all the WMDs" as you put it. We all know perfectly well that if the smoking gun had been found, it would be plastered all over the TV as we speak. Busting Al-Qaeda in other countries for attacks that had nothing to do with Iraq's supposed WMDs (which, by the way, is supposed to be why we invaded them) is nice and all.... but your reaction to this just goes to show that the administration can count on suckers like you to keep confusing two separate issues, and treating them as though they were the same thing. Good work, Raygun. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 06:38 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun |
Hey Stabby, you must have missed the picture of all the WMD that were recovered. ....thanks to the war. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 05:02 PM | |||
| Stabby |
Well, from that article it seems like all that was "found" was maybes and coulda-beens: Quote:
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Like what, any high school science classroom? An empty space where someone could do chemical tests is not the same as a weapon of mass destruction. Oh wait, it also mentions something about how they found 55 gallons of agricultural pesticide, which the author claims is the "grandfather of modern-day nerve agents." I have 8 fucking gallons of pestiticde in my garage. Don't tell anyone. And the fact that if the U.S. found any serious weapons that it wouldn't be reported on in the press. You're telling me if we find one warhead or anything Bush wouldnt give an immediate press conference with a 'told ya so' smirk on his face? Absurd. But this was written by Kenneth R. Timmerman a man whos books include, "Preachers of Hate" (a book about Islam), "The French Betrayal of America" and "Shakedown: Exposing the Real Jessie Jackson." Sounds like a sensible guy. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 10:09 AM | |||
| mburbank |
Okay, that has to be the weakest chain of causality I have ever seen. Why don't you do a six degrees of separation chart connecting Al Quaeda with that Japanese Sarin Gas episode. How about the Lincoln Assasination? Can we prove that Iraq did not supply Al Quaeda with time machine? As to the first article, one kind of has to think that if this were even just the tinyest bit arguable, the administration would hve said something about it. When you find a HUGE story that not even one major media outlet is covering, not even fair and balanced Fox? There's probably a reason. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 08:15 AM | |||
| Cosmo Electrolux |
Ronnie, It's about oil. There are no WMD. Wake the fuck up. Love, Cosmo. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 06:51 AM | |||
| the_dudefather |
because the media are taking the popular route in saying the war was unjustified. (bad news is good news, etc) people seem to want to hear that their goverment is incompatent. |
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| Apr 28th, 2004 12:05 AM | |||
| El Blanco | Now, I think the invasion is justified and that we will find the WMD, Ronnie, this is what is called an Iraqi Bigfoot. Why isn't even FOX News reporting this? | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 11:28 PM | |||
| punkgrrrlie10 | i heard they found lipsticks of mass destruction... | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 10:15 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore | zing! | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 09:46 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun | Well Kevin, I think we all do. | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 09:31 PM | |||
| DamnthatDavid | Well, Time for Operation Syria Ass-kicking. | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 09:30 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore | I think you live in your own little world sometimes. | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 09:17 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun | Maybe......but now they aren't in the hands of Saddam and are in the hands of allied forces. | ||
| Apr 27th, 2004 09:08 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
They have yet to be recorded, and regardless, we were promised "stockpiles" by this administration. I agree that we should certainly keep looking, however, the Iraqi border has only become more open and unstable since the fall of Saddam. Just about anybody could be running weapons between Syria, Iraq, Iran, and wherever. This doesn't mean of course that Saddam had those weapons, it may ironically mean that our invasion enabled these weapons to flow more easily in and out of Iraq. |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 09:02 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun |
Well, Jordan is saying that those WMD came from Syria and many believe that Saddam either buried his WMD or gave them to Syria. It's already been proven that Saddam had the means and could have produced WMD from that "perfume factory" he had set up. I don't know. I don't think we should stop looking. I do think that if we wouldn't have invaded Iraq these WMD would have never been recovered. |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 08:38 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
Right, the Jordanian attack that was prevented would've been horrible. And about Iraq's WMD.....? |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 08:37 PM | |||
| AChimp |
Hi Ronnie, What do those last two have to do with the first? Thanks - Common Sense |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 08:24 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun |
AND MORE!!!!! http://washingtontimes.com/upi-break...0641-9259r.htm Jordan exposes chemical attack plans Amman, , Apr. 27 (UPI) -- Jordanian intelligence officials have released a videotaped confession of a planned chemical bomb attack by an al-Qaida suspect. The tape was aired on national television, featuring a man identified as Azmi al-Jayusi. He claimed he worked for Abu Misaab al-Zarqawi, who the United States says is a senior al-Qaida operative in Iraq. He said his group in Amman had planned a chemical bomb attack on Jordanian intelligence headquarters, as well as the U.S. embassy and the prime minister's office. The type of gas was not disclosed. The state broadcast said Jordanian authorities had uncovered the plot and raided a house on April 20 from which the alleged al-Qaida cell was operating. Police killed four people and arrested six others, including Jayusi. Reports quoting security officials said the planned attacks could have left as many as 80,000 people dead, the BBC reported. |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 08:20 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun |
HERE IS MORE! http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.a...55E954,00.html Jordan plot 'aimed to kill 80,000' Jamal Halaby in Amman 28apr04 THE Al-Qaeda terror network plotted bomb and poison gas attacks against the US embassy and other targets in Jordan, suspects confessed in a videotape broadcast on Jordanian state television yesterday. A commentator said the plotters hoped to kill 80,000 people. One of the alleged conspirators, Azmi al-Jayousi, said he was acting on the orders of Abu-Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jordanian wanted by the US for allegedly organising terrorists to fight US troops in Iraq on behalf of Al-Qaeda. US officials have offered a $US10 million ($13.6 million) reward for his capture. Al-Jayousi, identified as the head of a Jordanian terror cell, said he met al-Zarqawi in neighbouring Iraq to plan the attacks. The 20-minute taped program, aired yesterday, contained what were described as confessions by the suspects, who were arrested a month ago. Officials said four terror suspects believed linked to the conspiracy died in a shootout with police in Amman last week. On the tape a commentator, who was not identified, said the plotters targeted Jordan's secret service, its prime minister's office and the US embassy. "At least 80,000 people would have been killed," the commentator said. He said al-Zarqawi "is the terrorist who plotted this operation". Another Jordanian suspect, car mechanic Hussein Sharif Hussein, was shown saying al-Jayousi asked him to buy vehicles and modify them so that they could crash through gates and walls. Hussein said al-Jayousi told him the aim was "carrying out the first suicide attack to be launched by Al-Qaeda using chemicals . . . striking at Jordan, its Hashemite (royal family) and launching war on the Crusaders and non-believers". "I have pledged loyalty to Abu-Musab to fully be obedient and listen to him without discussion," al-Jayousi said in the Jordanian television segment. He said he first met al-Zarqawi in Afghanistan, where al-Jayousi said he studied explosives, "before Afghanistan fell". Al-Jayousi said he later met al-Zarqawi in Iraq, but was not specific about when. The videotape also showed still photographs of al-Jayousi and nine other suspects. The commentator said four had been killed in clashes with security forces. Three of the slain men were identified as Syrians. But Syria has denied Jordanian claims that militants involved in the plot entered Jordan from Syria. Al-Jayousi said he received about $US170,000 from al-Zarqawi to finance the plot and used part of it to buy 20 tonnes of chemicals. He did not identify the chemicals, but said they "were enough for all the operations in the Jordanian arena". Images of what the commentator said were vans filled with blue jugs of chemical explosives were included in the broadcast. Hussein, the car mechanic, said he met al-Jayousi in 1999 but did not clearly say when the terror plans were laid out. Al-Jayousi said he and Hussein bought five vehicles, including a truck which was to be filled with explosives and used to attack the intelligence department. At least two vehicles had forged licence plates and car registrations. Citing unidentified technical experts, the commentator said al-Jayousi had made enough explosives to cause "two explosions – conventional and chemical – which were to have directly affected an area within a 2km radius". Al-Jayousi said he began making the explosives in a secret lab. Another detained terror suspect, Ahmad Samir, said he had worked in one of the labs for two months. Airing suspects' confessions before their trial is unusual in Jordan. The move may be an attempt to answer critics who claim the Government has exaggerated the terror danger to justify tightening security. Officials in Jordan say the kingdom has been repeatedly targeted by Al-Qaeda and other militant groups. Associated Press |
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| Apr 27th, 2004 08:19 PM | |||
| Pub Lover |
ROTFL  ... 
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