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| Mar 29th, 2004 11:13 AM | ||
| Anonymous |
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We basically have no income right now, but we don't qualify for unemployment. We have no health insurance either and haven't had any in a damn long time. Hopefully something will come through soon, but things are bad right now. There's jack shit out there for jobs |
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| Mar 27th, 2004 05:27 PM | ||
| mburbank |
Yeah, there Vinthy poo pie. Do you expect me to fucking listen to you when we don't know what you do, who your work for or how you got the job? Concidering how many folks out there have the same 'skill set' as you, I kind of have to wonder what you're doing and who you knew or blew to get the job. "Oh! OH! I don't have to prove anything to you! Why should I tell you anything when you won't have had a belief of it even if I had had done it! Why don't you ask me to post up a copy of my job employment certifcate of working for a job! Oh, right I forgot, you are too cowardly becuase you know when I say a thing I can always have backed up to it but I'm not going to! It's a great job and I got it becuae I am the best there is at what I do just like Wolverine and I work my ass off just like that guy who doesn't have a ass! I sent our six recipes and I got back thirty fucking replies becuase if you don't have the skills for jobs which haven't had a opening on you then get some other skills like mine which I can prove out any time but won't like my Jenny Craig lecture series!" Vinth "Getting paid for a medication study for pathological liars" Clambake. |
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| Mar 27th, 2004 03:29 PM | ||
| AChimp | I would love to hear about Vinth's job that must be related to his degree in Electronic and Software Engineering. | |
| Mar 27th, 2004 03:26 PM | ||
| punkgrrrlie10 | I can't even get the part time gig at starbucks b/c now I'm "overqualified" | |
| Mar 27th, 2004 11:02 AM | ||
| Protoclown | Hi Vince. Are you still fat? | |
| Mar 27th, 2004 02:51 AM | ||
| Anonymous |
Not even to mention that it's hard as asscats to even qualify for unemployment in the first place. I couldn't get it and have been unemployed for over a year now. Recently, my father's agreed to put me through an audio engineering course. At the moment my only available job option is part-time at Starbucks. Which I might take if the other thing my friend found doesn't work out. Also, a phone survey wouldn't include people who don't have phones, or even a house. Or people who are living with other people. Or people who don't take phone surveys. Or people who have devices that block mass-phoning systems. All of whom are far more likely to be unemployed than your 'average' person. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 07:29 PM | ||
| glowbelly |
oh trust me, bri would be more than happy to get another job, but you know what? i won't let him. you know why? because i care about his well being. there's no reason for him to work 60+ hours a week. we get by ok. i'm just saying that he busts his ass right now for a very small paycheck and can't seem to find anything better. it's not like he's sitting in an office for 8 hours a day. the guy is outside, working HARD. he comes home exhausted and sometimes drives over 200 miles a day. i don't want him working an extra 20 hours on his days off. it would kill his will to live. it would kill anyones, but you know what? if we needed it, he would. you think that everyone who is complaining about the job market is a lazy ass who is incapable of working hard for their money. you couldn't be more wrong. brian could have taken the unemployment route but he didn't. he CHOSE to work. so nyah. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 07:21 PM | ||
| Miss Modular |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 07:10 PM | ||
| VinceZeb |
Fucking please. You expect me to sit here and listen to this crap? There are jobs out there. They all aren't 100 grand a year and include nice cars. If you have to work two jobs to support yourself, then WORK TWO FUCKING JOBS. It's not the employers duty to make sure you are "well-off" in life. People have jobs out there. You can choose to take them or not. If you think that your skills are to great for the jobs out there, then maybe you chose the wrong skill sets. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 01:59 PM | ||
| Brandon |
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My uncle, a well-educated man with a long career as an engineer, was unemployed for at least a year after the transportation company he worked for got in financial trouble. He searched the entire time for a job and just recently found one. It's a republican/libertarian fantasy that people would prefer to live off of meager welfare or unemployment rather than holding a well-paying job. Welfare isn't enough to cover basic expenses, and most people find it degrading. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 01:47 PM | ||
| glowbelly |
i'm one of the lost statistics. i was laid off in april, went on unemployment and decided to go back to school instead of going back to work. i could have filed for an extension on my bennies, but i decided against it. i'm 28. there are 4 people in my one photography class that are doing the same thing. i COULD go back to work right now, but i'm choosing not to. this doesn't mean that i should not be included as an unemployed person. i am. during the 6 months that i was on unemployment, i applied for jobs. i had to. i'm gonna go ahead and say that i'm pretty well qualified for the work that i have experience in...guess what? not a one called me back for an interview, let alone hired me. so there ya go. if you want we can discuss my boyfriend's situation...which is worse than mine, because he works his ass off at a job that pays absolute crap. he's applied all over the place for something better and is getting no response. this is not because he isn't qualified or skilled. it is because there are a very small amount of jobs available in his skill set, and the competition is insane. plus he has standards and refuses to work at what he does and knows best for pennies. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 01:44 PM | ||
| davinxtk | Don't forget dicoveries, Mr. Burbank. | |
| Mar 26th, 2004 01:24 PM | ||
| mburbank |
"What are "interesting nd useful dicoveries", Max? " Ugh! ya got me, pard! No, wait, maybe I'll spend a few posts arguing that 'nd' is a word and that I used it correctly, and then when it's obvious I was wrong insist that 100 out of 100 people would have no problem with my use of 'nd'. But 'nd' is just a lowly typo, and my mistake. It's the right word spelled wrong, but I know what word it is and I used it correctly. I did totally spell it wrong though. Touche. See? Admitting I'm wrong is just one of the things I do that makes me more of a man than you, Vinthy. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:26 PM | ||
| davinxtk |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:24 PM | ||
| VinceZeb |
What are "interesting nd useful dicoveries", Max? I'm glad to see you admit you are wrong. You should do it more often.... well, I take that back. If you were to admit every time you were wrong, you would wear those keys out on your keyboard. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:23 PM | ||
| davinxtk |
Psst, Vincent... You're not supposed to hand the enemy your gun, tell him how to load and fire it, and then turn your back. It's bad form. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:22 PM | ||
| Miss Modular |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:22 PM | ||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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Anyway, as far as the Department of Labor goes, they do in fact have a fucked up method for collecting data. I haven't heard anything about the "self-employment" boom that Vinth had mentioned, but they do stop tracking people once they go unemployed for over a certain period (I believe six months). This means they don't count, and don't get added into the unemployed. Also, many people have decided to take different routes and return to school. I know from talking to a handful of graduate programs that the average age of the graduate/Phd applicant has increased into the mid to late twenties. To my recollection, these people don't get counted as unemployed, either. All of these flawed methods will be good for President "jobless recovery" Bush. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:20 PM | ||
| mburbank |
Before commenting on the article, I just want to say, you hve to stop saying 'by proxy' until you find out what it means. It's another phrase you're using totally wrong and it makes you look like an idiot. Now, let me do something you are incapable of. I was wrong. There is a phone survey. It's used as part of the census. If you were to take the figures they got, extrapolate them to the entire population, and then compare them to the unemployment statistics used by the fed to determine the unemployment rate, I think you might make some interesting nd useful dicoveries. I'll do that whn I gt a chance, becuase my gut feeling is they'll support my argument and not yours. So thanks for the link. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:18 PM | ||
| davinxtk |
Vince, you have the most unlikely array of friends, relatives, and roommates of any human being I've ever encountered. Nobody ever called me while I was unemployed for nearly the entirety of 2003. Nor was I filed amongst the statistics of those who were allowed benefits. I'd bet your friend took up all of their time. Quote:
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:13 PM | ||
| VinceZeb |
Max Burbank: "I can't prove you are wrong, so I will say something stupid to make you look stupid by proxy." Try again, dumbass. http://stats.bls.gov/cps/cps_add.htm Quote:
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| Mar 26th, 2004 12:06 PM | ||
| mburbank |
" ...There are numerous ways that employment stats are tracked. There is a survey done phone-to-phone to see in households who are able to work, who are working, and who are unemployed." Huh. Seriously? A phone survey? And those statistics are done by whom? And can be found where? And are used by whom? I know, I know, you don't have to educate me or prove anything. Say, Vinth, did you know it's been proved that W. ate a baby at a fundraiser? He did! He said "I'll bet all you rich fuckers a million bucks a piece I'll eat baby!" And then he whipped out the baby and by God he ate it! It's on video, but most media isn't covering it. I don't know about you, but I think a guy who'd eat a baby for money shouldn't be president. Now, don't ask me to tell you where you can see this tape, or read about the baby eating incident. I don't have to prove anything to you. What am I, Lexis Nexis? Oh, the capper? half way into his after dinner remarks, W. dropped his pnts and took a dump right on stage. And the next day, Chenney is all over the news going "The President never took the dump. He stted the dump was imminent." |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 11:52 AM | ||
| VinceZeb |
You can't, in this economy, be unemployed for a fucking year. If you are, it is because you are either 1) lazy, 2) do not need to work or 3) disabled and unfortuantely cannot work. EDIT: To answer your dumbass comment about unemployment stats... ...There are numerous ways that employment stats are tracked. There is a survey done phone-to-phone to see in households who are able to work, who are working, and who are unemployed. Unemployment claims are another way another organization gathers unemployment stats. |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 11:47 AM | ||
| mburbank |
Oh, crap! I just argued the merits with Vinth. I guess that post doesn't exist, because everyone knows all I do is make fun of him for writing like a egotistical third grader. Hey, Vinth, you write really, really badly! I think you are a dumb dumb. Just pretedn I didn't say any of the other stuff bad writting dumb guy! |
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| Mar 26th, 2004 11:45 AM | ||
| mburbank |
Vinth. Unemployment statistics are not compiled by a 'survey dude' calling people up. They are compiled by people filing for unemployment insurance. That's how all the statistics you posted were compiled. Here's another group of people who aren't counted in unemployment numbers. People who's unemployment benefits have run out. It's a pretty dumb way to compile statistics, but I guess it's better than using a survey dude. You understand what this means, right? That the people in the worst trouble as far as jobs go, people who've been unemployed for over a year, are not counted as being unemployed. You knew that, right? And you also knew that the biggest job losses in the last several years are in manufacturing, and that most of them paid eleven dollars an hour or more? And I'm sure you know that the Bush administration is currently woking to change the deffinition of manufacturing jobs to include fast food workers, because people are making burgers and tacos on an assembly line, so it's kind of like making automobiles, and also coincidentally, it would make manufacturing job losses vanish? Because if you didn't know all of those things, the numbers you posted would be just... well, numbers. If you don't factor in people who's unemployment has run out and if you don't take a look at people who've replaced jobs with health insurance and good salaries with jobs with no insurance and minimum wage, then those numbers mean... nothing. So I'm sure you knew all that stuff. |
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