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| Jan 3rd, 2004 01:59 PM | |||
| The One and Only... | Actually, it has been suggested that one of the reasons we have such limited intelligence is due to a low number of spies. | ||
| Jan 3rd, 2004 12:48 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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Tell me, do we live in a happy, loving world where nobody spies on each other, or do we in reality live in a world where enemies and allies in fact do it to each other all of the time in their own best interests......? Come on, Mr. Conservative.... I was in no way criticizing President Bush, rather, I was raising a very high political reality. If they are a terror threat, if they are truly "evil," then I'd assume any nation that perceives them as an enemy would take the opportunities given to them, period. This doesn't mean we won't help them, we certainly shall and want to. This however doesn't mean the nation wouldn't use any opportunity given to her in order to defend the American people, right Ronnie....? |
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| Dec 30th, 2003 01:27 PM | |||
| Anonymous |
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| Dec 30th, 2003 12:45 PM | |||
| Protoclown |
This is some horrible, horrible shit. 
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| Dec 30th, 2003 11:07 AM | |||
| AChimp |
That's a lot of inheritance. 
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| Dec 30th, 2003 09:08 AM | |||
| Zhukov | A couple in Victoria lost 150 relatives. | ||
| Dec 29th, 2003 06:31 PM | |||
| ScruU2wice |
according to ABC news the travisties of irans quakes are "just coming to light..." 
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| Dec 29th, 2003 04:12 PM | |||
| Anonymous |
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| Dec 29th, 2003 03:54 PM | |||
| kellychaos |
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* The "eh" was put in on AChimp's behalf in an effort to make this forum more Canada-friendly. |
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| Dec 29th, 2003 12:55 PM | |||
| Ronnie Raygun |
"Below: So I hate to be cynical over what is clearly a very good gesture, but doesn't deploying these "searh-and-rescue" teams of about 200 seem like a great opportunity for the Bush administration to do some spying on 1/3 of the "evil axis"????" I think it's shitty to use the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent people as a political football to bash Bush. Kevin's possible response: "I think it's shitty for Bush to use 9/11 as a political football to attack Saddam and murder billions of innocent people." |
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| Dec 29th, 2003 12:18 PM | |||
| El Blanco |
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| Dec 29th, 2003 11:08 AM | |||
| Gurlugon | Too many cooks spoil the broth. | ||
| Dec 29th, 2003 02:11 AM | |||
| Emu |
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| Dec 29th, 2003 01:40 AM | |||
| MisSFiT |
I was watching the news this morning and they said it was 40,000 people. I'm not sure if that was true or not. |
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| Dec 28th, 2003 09:02 PM | |||
| El Blanco |
"Castles made of sand melt into the sea.....eventually." Jimi FUCKING Hendrix But, I digress, the reason the 20 kids got more attention is because it happened here. Not that American lives are more important, its just that they were closer. Human nature, not American arrogance. And, Kevin, you do realize that onm the ground intel has been the biggest weakness we have had for some time now, right? Why would it be wasted in a rescue effort? I'm sure those workers would be guided by the hand the whole time there, anyway. I'm actually kind of hoping Israel sends in those search and rescue dogs of theirs. Best in the world at it. Would save lives and be a great gesture towards a little more peace. |
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| Dec 28th, 2003 02:57 PM | |||
| Abcdxxxx | Bricks? They weren't even using bricks! It was like a giant sand castle village. | ||
| Dec 28th, 2003 10:51 AM | |||
| AChimp | California doesn't have that many cities built with mudbricks, either. | ||
| Dec 28th, 2003 12:17 AM | |||
| Abcdxxxx |
Mudslides happen in California ALL the time. That this was a lead story on National news is extremely odd. 20,000 deaths vs. 20 deaths/injuries. What the hell? Bam, Iran wasn't just ancient...it was built entirely out of mudd!! (a lot of mudd in the news huh?) ...check out how insane this place was....all built out of sand (and impossible to retrofit for earthquakes) Look..... http://www.sacredsites.com/december2001pages/bam.htm Our ability to generate spies fluent in Farsi isn't going to increase the second we land our planes on Iranian soil is it? The people of Iran aren't representative of the Ayatollah and they deserve the same support we offer to places like Mexico. Any criticism should saved for Iran's hesitance to allow the ONE nation in the nearby vacinity that is trained in earthquake aid to assist them. Sadly the people of Iran aren't going to get the same Israeli Dissaster Rescue Team that's gone and helped out in Argentinia, Turkey, Columbia, Greece..... etc. It's tragic, and I'm at least happy the Red Cross, and the US can get in there. |
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| Dec 27th, 2003 06:21 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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Also, according to numbers put out by the AP today, there have only been roughly a dozen earthquakes of greater magnitude since 1923. So, despite California's quake habit, this one was still a biggie. Below: So I hate to be cynical over what is clearly a very good gesture, but doesn't deploying these "searh-and-rescue" teams of about 200 seem like a great opportunity for the Bush administration to do some spying on 1/3 of the "evil axis"???? http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...556416,00.html U.S. Sending Medical Supplies to Iran Saturday December 27, 2003 10:46 PM By SCOTT LINDLAW Associated Press Writer CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - The Bush administration is sending 150,000 pounds of medical supplies in a military airlift to quake-ravaged Iran, White House officials said Saturday. The administration is also dispatching teams of about 200 search-and-rescue, disaster relief coordination and surgical experts from Fairfax County, Va., Los Angeles and Boston, said spokesman Scott McClellan. Disaster-response experts will also be drawn from three federal agencies. The aid shipments are the result of highly unusual direct communications between Iran and the United States, which maintain no formal diplomatic ties. But senior administration officials emphasized the assistance does not mark a change in U.S. policy toward Iran, which remains on the State Department's list of sponsors of terrorism. The government and civilian teams will work with the International Red Cross, the Iranian Red Crescent Society and the United Nations to determine needs and distribute the supplies. Among the medical supplies being shipped aboard six C-130 cargo planes are blood, food, blankets and plastic sheeting for temporary housing, officials said. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said late Saturday the planes were to leave the United States later in the evening, and arrive in Iran ``sometime within the next 24 hours.'' The civilian teams include 70 firefighters from California Task Force Two and the 73-member Virginia Task Force One, a team that includes doctors, paramedics, structural engineers, search and rescue specialists and several Fairfax County firefighters. The two groups are among only three urban search-and-rescue task forces in the United States that are trained and certified for overseas disaster deployment. The other is in Florida. The U.S. teams' equipment includes special cameras that can fit in tight crevices to search for survivors amid wreckage. ``The United States will continue to work with Iranian authorities and international relief organizations to help the people of Iran during this challenging time,'' McClellan said. A senior administration official said the aid shipments did not mark a shift in U.S. policy toward Iran. But the airlift could help thaw relations with Iran, which President Bush branded part of an ``axis of evil'' last year. The United States says Iran sponsors terrorism, is trying to acquire nuclear weapons and has a poor human rights record. U.S. sanctions prohibit most trade with Iran and most dealings between the countries are conducted through intermediaries. The American response to the quake Friday was much more aggressive than it was to a smaller quake last year, when it used the United Nations to channel $300,000 in humanitarian aid to Iran after a magnitude-6.1 quake killed 245 people in the northwestern part of the country. Two Americans were among the casualties in the devastating earthquake that rocked southeastern Iran Friday, a State Department official said. Spokesman Lou Fintor said one American was killed and another was injured in the powerful quake in the ancient city of Bam. The State Department did not release the names of the two Americans, who were visiting the city's 2,000-year-old citadel at the time. Fintor said the injured American has been hospitalized in Tehran and is receiving medical care. The injuries are serious but do not appear to be life-threatening, he said. Iran's Interior Ministry has estimated that about 20,000 people were killed in the earthquake, but rescue officials said the number could be twice as high. More than 30,000 people were injured. Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage called Iran's envoy to the United Nations, Javad Zarif, to convey condolences and offer relief supplies, administration officials said. The call was out of the ordinary: The United States normally communicates with Tehran through Swiss intermediaries. But State Department officials deemed the earthquake disaster urgent enough to merit personal communication, aides said. By landing military planes in Iran, the humanitarian mission was extraordinary in another respect. According to one senior White House official, few if any American soldiers have set foot in Iran since President Jimmy Carter ordered a mission in 1980 to rescue U.S. hostages. A U.S. helicopter crashed during the failed mission, killing eight U.S. servicemen. Fintor denied there was any ``political angle'' in the offer of assistance from Washington. ``Our only mission is to alleviate the human suffering associated with yesterday's earthquake. These efforts will not alter the tone or intensity of our dialogue with the Iranians on other matters of grave concern,'' he said. Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2003 |
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| Dec 27th, 2003 04:30 PM | |||
| ScruU2wice |
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| Dec 27th, 2003 04:14 PM | |||
| kellychaos |
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| Dec 27th, 2003 03:56 PM | |||
| Spectre X |
I bet they're gonna blame this on computer games too. But seriously, that's fucked up.
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| Dec 27th, 2003 12:00 PM | |||
| Ninjavenom | "Quake Frags 20,000 Children in Elbonia" | ||
| Dec 27th, 2003 11:45 AM | |||
| AChimp |
Who farted? Someone had to say it.
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| Dec 27th, 2003 11:06 AM | |||
| Emu | Well, here we have the "They're just stupid sand ******s, it's God shoving his proverbial God Rod up their asses, who cares, HOLY SHIT, WHITE CHILDREN HAVE DIED WHY GOD WHY" attitude. | ||
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