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| Jan 20th, 2006 03:46 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
I was against the invasion. But if I break a wine glass set in a store, I like to think I'd pay for it. There's no reason to be a downer, IMO, about the positive things coming out of Iraq. That would be counter-productive, however it doesn't necessarily justify the invasion. |
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| Jan 20th, 2006 03:42 PM | |||
| Preechr |
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| Jan 19th, 2006 03:50 AM | |||
| Kulturkampf |
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We even did a lot to help Korea after our war there. And still are doing a lot. [quote]If funding falls flat and Iraq never fully rebuilds, then we have failed on both fronts, IMO. The real blow to terrorism wasn't the invasion, but the promise of what Iraq could be, or the kind of example it could set in the middle east.[/quote True. |
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| Jan 19th, 2006 01:05 AM | |||
| kahljorn | Japan owes it's economy to america from everything I've ever understood about their history... history that i learned in an american history book. | ||
| Jan 18th, 2006 09:03 PM | |||
| Big Papa Goat | To be fair about Japan, you did turn the milataristic and imperial nation into one of the best liberal democraices in the region after you dropped the nukes on them. So, at least at that point the US and it's army must have been at least sort of suited to nation building in addition to nation destroying. | ||
| Jan 18th, 2006 05:47 PM | |||
| ziggytrix |
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We need a new kind of army or something. |
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| Jan 18th, 2006 05:24 PM | |||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
Couldn't this story (whether it's biased or not) be attributed to the anti-war sentiment in this country? There's nothing new here-- Americans love going to war, but hate cleaning it up. I think the Left is just as muchto blame here. If you try to build up the idea that Iraq was a waste, that men and women are needlessly dying, and that we should withdraw ASAP, then people just might start to agree with you! If funding falls flat and Iraq never fully rebuilds, then we have failed on both fronts, IMO. The real blow to terrorism wasn't the invasion, but the promise of what Iraq could be, or the kind of example it could set in the middle east. |
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| Jan 18th, 2006 04:46 AM | |||
| Kulturkampf |
I hope there is more funding in the future. Maybe I will donate... Nah. |
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| Jan 17th, 2006 04:34 PM | |||
| ziggytrix | I was smiling while I typed it. | ||
| Jan 17th, 2006 02:50 PM | |||
| Ant10708 |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 11:32 PM | |||
| Big Papa Goat |
once the 18.6 billion dollars are spent Iraq's government expenditures in 2004 were 28 billion, with about 5 billion on capital expenditures well, I dunno, maybe 18.6 billion isn't enough it does sound like a lot of money in any case, we really should just let the market sort itself out in this regard, that usually works. |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 03:28 PM | |||
| Preechr |
Bias in the story? Not a whole lot. Bias in the analysis? Sure. Expectations met. Of course Geggy will say this is just par for the course, verifying his long held beliefs that Team Bush only ever had the most evil of intentions for Iraq. Trouble is, the article doesn't really say anything like that. Basically, Iraq's economic future is subject to the same conditions as that of any other country save the US and possibly GB and Germany: Globalized Free Markets. Those that would suggest that Iraq could have any future at all without learning the bond market and doing it herself are quite simply clueless. That being said, I did notice the complete lack of any data within the story regarding whatever private investment may or may not already be present in Iraq. We are told about the government pledges, how far behind they are, and that they are not going to last forever... but of the actual future we are left to believe there is no plan other than "tough love," as if that was something Team Bush is just now making up for lack of something more substantial. Is that bias? Maybe just stupidity. Bad Journalism combined with a lack of economic knowledge? Probably more like it. I don't think the story was slanted to leave any particular impression other than the writers need to find jobs for which they're more qualified. |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 02:36 PM | |||
| ziggytrix |
Listening to pundits doesn't make you stupid. Believing them does. BTW Spectre, I think he answered my last question pretty clearly. 
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| Jan 16th, 2006 02:06 PM | |||
| Spectre X |
Stop beating about the bush and answer the man's question. Serious business. But seriously, answer him. I'm curious, too. |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 01:45 PM | |||
| ItalianStereotype |
oh, I dunno, are you going to pull another generic insult from your over-used repertoire? "YOU ARE STUPID AND LISTEN TO PUNDITS LOLOLOL" |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 01:35 PM | |||
| ziggytrix |
Did you read all three pages? I thought it was very balanced, and for the most part, quoted figures that would be easily verified or invalidated if you doubted their accuracy. If anything, I would say the above posters' interpretation of the article is skewed, not the article itself. Would you care to provide some examples to back your opinion that it was skewed and innaccurate? Or are you just gonna be a sarcastic, dismissive little bitch cuz it didn't come from your list of talking-point approved sources? |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 01:28 PM | |||
| ItalianStereotype |
that article isn't skewed at all and is also completely factual in its entirety. yes. yes it is. totally true. and not skewed either. |
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| Jan 16th, 2006 01:08 PM | |||
| sspadowsky | Boy, I sure didn't see this coming twenty miles away. | ||
| Jan 16th, 2006 12:13 PM | |||
| Dr. Boogie | ... if they had working toilets. | ||
| Jan 16th, 2006 02:42 AM | |||
| Immortal Goat | And so what little respect we have garnered over there will be flushed down the toilet... | ||
| Jan 16th, 2006 12:25 AM | |||
| Chojin |
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YOU'RE A MAN OF 25 I CAN'T BE AROUND TO HOLD YOUR HAND ALL THE TIME WHENEVER YOU GET INVADED. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE LIFE LESSONS AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT YOU LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. |
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| Jan 15th, 2006 11:22 PM | |||
| Geggy |
'No Pain No Gain' So much for winning their hearts and minds... http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines |
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