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| Apr 22nd, 2003 10:15 AM | ||||||||||
| mburbank |
Sea Monkey Regan Welcomes other opinions so that he can Tell them they're wrong Call them 'hippies' 'libs' and other words he uses to mean 'scary other' Tell them how right he is define them as being outside of groups he feels empowered to define; Christian, American, etc. Enjoy ugly characteristics such as gloating, name calling, spite all wgile pretending complete innocence of these things Call them liars whie reserving the right to lie about them Wallow in negative attention proclaim his righteousness Again and again I have offered Naldo the chnce to demonstrate some way in which he found either himself or one of his proxies (W, Rumsfeld, Limbaugh, etc.) was wrong. He is constitutionally unable to do so. |
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| Apr 21st, 2003 09:18 PM | ||||||||||
| The_Rorschach |
Christ Zeb, Kev said they were CONSERVATIVE, not REPUBLICAN. There is a difference between the two. Words have meaning. I know you pound out your messages in one minute, and probably read responces just as quickly, but I'll tell you what. Spend more time doing both, and you'll find you might be taken seriously. |
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| Apr 21st, 2003 08:48 PM | ||||||||||
| VinceZeb |
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| Apr 21st, 2003 03:47 PM | ||||||||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Apr 21st, 2003 11:07 AM | ||||||||||
| Vibecrewangel |
War Ror- Well then :P to you mister! |
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| Apr 21st, 2003 02:27 AM | ||||||||||
| The_Rorschach |
"This shit again? I thought my hazing was over." Doesn't make you immune to criticism, just unwaranted insults. Maybe I was unduely harsh, but Ronnie has enough trouble, Kev doesn't need any help with him. "Was the "Cold War" radically different?" Every President since Truman has waged it in one way or another, whether they used proxy soldiers or our own. Tell you what, as soon as I've finished my preliminary research on the matter, I'll post my opinions here and we can and a go at taking them apart. "Whose "unoriginal" concepts did he rip off, btw?" Carlos something. Gotta review my notes from the semester 'fore last now. I think he pre-dated the Marx-Engels worker conflict theory by a good fifty or so years. I'll have it by Wednesday. I have papers due Monday and Tuesday so I'll have to pull some free time out of my ass  By the way, thanks for the benefit of the doubt, I'd like to think you're right, it is the latter, but I have been second guessing myself lately. Might be the former afterall."Calling this war Operation Iraqi Freedom is a blantant attempt to suger coat the war." Sorry. I was actually agreeing with, just trying to toss a couple pennies your way. I know slapping it in with general criticisms colours the comments somewhat, but I meant well 
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| Apr 21st, 2003 12:15 AM | ||||||||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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O'Reilly and Boortz can call themselves whatever they like..... |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 09:40 PM | ||||||||||
| VinceZeb | Sorry Kevin, but O'Rilley is a self described independant and Boortz is the country's most famous libertarian. If you actually knew shit about what you talk about you would probably know that. | |||||||||
| Apr 20th, 2003 09:36 PM | ||||||||||
| Vibecrewangel |
Ror - Please look at the what I used it against. "This man needs to be taken out of power. He is a danger to his own people and the rest of the world." As opposed to "Operation Iraqi Freedom!" Calling this war Operation Iraqi Freedom is a blantant attempt to suger coat the war. Or look at it like this. How many average Americans have heard or read any of the non televised speeches? Like I said it was his approach. |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 09:24 PM | ||||||||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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Whose "unoriginal" concepts did he rip off, btw? All that aside, it really had little to do with my point anyway. Engels might've been a drunken, idiotic hypocrite. That wasn't the point. The point was that whether you agree with him or not, his literature is considered very important amongst much of the Left, primarily the socialist sects. You can appreciate the difference between dismissing someone out of ignorance, or dismissing a person based on your own reading and assesment, right? I feel you have chosen the latter, unlike Ronnie (perhaps I'm wrong). |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 12:42 PM | ||||||||||
| Zebra 3 |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 12:42 PM | ||||||||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 12:06 PM | ||||||||||
| The_Rorschach |
"Idiots like you were saying the same thing to critics of Cold War tactics. . .some said, supporting these dubious Latin dictators, or these questionable Arab extremists is a bad idea." I hope you're purposefully confusing those who viewed the Cold War as a necessity -which I do now, even if I didn't know of its existance back then (it ended when I was kid buddy, fuck you!)- with those who back our rather shortsighted Foreign policy. "People like you lack complete vision, Ronnie. You don't possess the mental capability to see beyond these borders. Hell, you can't even see beyond the next Presidential election. The world is 20 second images and good polling data to you." In that case, you can Clinton up there, because largely he ran an extrememly successful, and equally shortsighted, campaign based upon polling data. How many lasting foreign affairs measures that he implimented are still pervasive now? How many will remain ten years? He was fairly typical as a modern day politician. "How much Engels have you read?" Why would anyone want to read Engels? He largely reworded unoriginal concepts which were first concieved, more persuasively, by others. Hopefully, he will be best known for bankrolling Marx by future generations, or as a plagarizing(Sp?) hack. Vibe - "With a moron you never know what is gonna come next." He's really not you know. Even Kevin, if memory serves, agreed with me that his political appointments and strategems actually suggest he has an uncanny ability to guage his opposition and respond with surprising clairty. :/ Vibe "I would much rather hear the unglossed truth than have someone try to cram rose colored glasses over my eyes." I would suggest you stop watching whatever news channel you currently have set because otherwise you'd know that arguments such as: "This man needs to be taken out of power. He is a danger to his own people and the rest of the world." . . .were points made extremely clear in quite a few of his non-televised speeches. I don't support Bush, I don't even like him, but half truths wouldn't profit your arguments much at all. Jen - "Thats because you are too much of an ass to admit to yourself that you were wrong about something." Ronnie has been around for at least four years or so. You haven't even been here one. What the fuck do you know about it? Spectre -"you are a lot like me Ronnie, and I have scarred myself for life by saying this" No, despite his often fanatical support for Bush, Ronnie is educated and at least bothers to read the news -Even if many of the places he reads that news I find questionable. I realize its fun to pick on Ronnie, and I find myself doing it sometimes too, but you really are an idiot. I'd rather have a half dozen Ronnies posting in hte Poli Phil than one of you. Back to Blabber with you, and take Jen with you. Jen -"I find on forums from people who are convinced it is their mission in the world to bring everyone over to their point of view is amazing." The irony of this statement is mind boggling. |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 12:01 PM | ||||||||||
| Zebra 3 |
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- Maybe all he wants is order, and for the trains to run on time...
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| Apr 20th, 2003 11:35 AM | ||||||||||
| AChimp |
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No, of course not.  Ronnie, the America that you want is fascist where everyone acts the same and thinks the same. |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 11:19 AM | ||||||||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 10:24 AM | ||||||||||
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| Apr 20th, 2003 10:12 AM | ||||||||||
| Spectre X |
you are a lot like me Ronnie, and I have scarred myself for life by saying this. you MUST be right, you MUST win, you MUST prove your intelligence, you MUST absolutely demolish your opposition. the only thing you succed in, is not on that list. the thing you succed in, is making points for other people but yourself. furthermore, by saying you're not short-sighted, you prove just the opposite, being that you in fact, ARE, short sighted. if you cannot see this, you're an idiot, so, I guess you can't see it. now, I don't have much debate experience, but you, are the worst debatist I have ever seen. you don't even debatem you just say a couple of things you think are fatcs, and absolutely disregard any valid arguements against yours. please leave I-Mockery.com forever, and then, leave the realm of the living, for you are clearly not wanted in either. |
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| Apr 20th, 2003 09:30 AM | ||||||||||
| Ronnie Raygun |
Laugh it up. You are the only ones laughing. "Your lense of Americans, just like your perspective of those you disagree with, comes from the Gods you worship, Ronnie. The talk radio mouth pieces, the slanted yellow journalism of Newsmax and Fox News, and anybody else who reinforces your naive little understandings." The Gods I worship? You are so wrong it's funny. Example? I post on Planet Out......I would give you a few others but I don't want you following me around. I post here don't I? I welcome opposing views. I've said that countless times and I mean it. "Who are these Americans that you so easily cast into one giant lot in order to simplify and ostracize? Aren't you against divisive politics? Aren't we "all" Americans, Ronnie....?" By definition you are but some of you sure as hell don't act like it. "Hey Ronnie, you think the IR.S., the Federal Government, and anybody who isn't a Republican in Washington is out to get you and take your money, right? Why do you support gun rights? You're in a militia and may blow up an abortion clinic one day, right Ronnie?" Ummm......... Riiight.........Thank for proving my point. Yeah, everyones really out to get you Kevin. "This war alone has proved WITHOUT A DOUBT how much of a liar and a fool you are. If I'm bettin' on the ponies, I want to see who YOU pick first." Yeah! That makes sense. We've been in Iraq less than a month and haven't even officially looked for WMD yet on a grand scale. You better hope they don't find anything (which you know we will) because if we do, well, it's the end of you. |
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| Apr 19th, 2003 05:50 PM | ||||||||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Apr 19th, 2003 05:40 PM | ||||||||||
| VinceZeb | ranxer, you do realize that everything you have is more than likely a part of corporate America. The computer you use, the internet access you have, everything has a hand in a corporation, big or small. | |||||||||
| Apr 19th, 2003 05:11 PM | ||||||||||
| Abcdxxxx |
Not to distract anyone from their Ronnie bashing here but .... Ranxer, what exactly do you know about Saddam's education and health system? I asked you this before...and seriously, you sound stupid as fuck... being on the left or protesting this war doesn't mean you automatically support Saddam .... but dumb statements like yours sure make me wonder about a few of you fools. |
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| Apr 19th, 2003 03:25 PM | ||||||||||
| Vibecrewangel |
Like Me What about people like me Ronnie? THe ones who support the war but think that Bush is a dangerous, lying moron? Which by the way, frightens me more than Saddam who is a dangerous, lying, sneaky bastard. At least with the sneaky bastard you know where you stand. With a moron you never know what is gonna come next. You know, if Bush had moved into this war saying "We have no proof that Saddam has anything, but we susspect it and the odds are good that he does." Instead of stomping his foot and saying "But it's there gosh dang it." Or "The man is a lunatic who is either hiding something already or simply toying with the world while he is working on something." Instead of "It's there, we just can't find it." Or "Having a man like that control a resources as important to the world as oil could become a problem in the future." Instead of "This isn't about oil." Or "This man needs to be taken out of power. He is a danger to his own people and the rest of the world." As opposed to "Operation Iraqi Freedom!" See the problem is, insead of just being honest and saying things plainly he tried to make this so much prettier for the US. If he hadn't been so busy trying to lie to us and simply said "Right now this is a better alternative than continued waiting." I think that more people would have supported not only the war but the president himself. Then again, maybe I am a freak. I would much rather hear the unglossed truth than have someone try to cram rose colored glasses over my eyes. Honestly, must of us knew the war was inevitable. Now or in the near future it was going to happen. The problem lies in Bush and the way he presented it to the American public. Most of the people I know wouldn't have even minded the loss of ground within our foreign policy if his practice at home had been different. |
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| Apr 19th, 2003 02:49 PM | ||||||||||
| KevinTheOmnivore |
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This isn't what I said. I said "many" people, with more emphasis on the "people like you." Millions of Americans think millions of different things, and have varying opinions on all sorts of issues. Unlike yourself, who if he was told that toppling every government in the Middle East would prevent terrorism, you would step right in line with the President. You don't question. You don't think. You absorb what is dictated. Quote:
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Who the hell are you talking about? Me? A college professor in Stanford? A Zapatista guerilla in Mexico? A French guy you hate? Do we all hang out at the bar in the Marriot in downtown Atlanta? Who are these Americans that you so easily cast into one giant lot in order to simplify and ostracize? Aren't you against divisive politics? Aren't we "all" Americans, Ronnie....? Your lense of Americans, just like your perspective of those you disagree with, comes from the Gods you worship, Ronnie. The talk radio mouth pieces, the slanted yellow journalism of Newsmax and Fox News, and anybody else who reinforces your naive little understandings. How many opposing magazines do you read, Ronnie? How many "Liberal" or "Leftist" authors do you read? How much Engels have you read? Can your little skull even come close to challenging itself? I am only 23 years old. I have listened to conservative talk radio for over 10 years, long before I even fully understood what they were talking about. I enjoy confronting myself with opposition. I enjoy reading the columns of Cal Thomas, but especially George F. Will. I've read conservative economic books by guys such as Hernando DeSoto. My beliefs, my values, my politics, have ALL been shaped by the different knowledge I have absorbed. So before you ever DARE to call someone a coward for being unwilling to face up to their beliefs, you better start with your own insulated self. And on that note..... Quote:
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Like the pesticides we found? Like the uranium Iraq wasn't buying from Nigeria? Like the "BIG PROOF THEY HAVE WMD" that you got off of Rush Limbaugh's website, you know, the proof that (for some crazy reason) never seemed to catch on? What about the link between Saddam and Al Quada that never happened? How about the meting between a "top Al Quada" operative with an Iraqi commander in Turkey, ya know, the meeting that never really happened? This war alone has proved WITHOUT A DOUBT how much of a liar and a fool you are. If I'm bettin' on the ponies, I want to see who YOU pick first. Quote:
This war was wrong. It will remain wrong. We will see what happens in Iraq, not tomorrow, not from what some disc jockey says about it in a week, but YEARS from now. Can you think that far in advance without getting a cue from Drudge, Ronnie? |
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| Apr 19th, 2003 02:17 PM | ||||||||||
| mburbank |
Ronnie, seriously, you're kind of like a sea monkey. I don't mean like a brine shrimp, I mean like the 'fanciful depiction' on sea monkey packaging. You're trying so hard to be provocative so you can reclaim the crown of I-mockery's most disliked person from Vince, it's just sad. Oh, OH, what's bad for the country is good for libs. That's SO yesterday. Vince brings all that to the table, plus pitying your offspring and questioning your sexuality, calling you a pussy and actually lusting for blood. You just don't ahve it compared to that. Face that. |
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