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Jul 8th, 2004 02:50 PM
kellychaos Ah ... the swift wheels of justice. :/
Jul 7th, 2004 08:57 AM
mburbank L.F.E. has a Loooong way to go before I can even think about him being our village idiot.

He hasn't made any impression on me at all yet, I can't even say if he's real .
Jul 7th, 2004 12:11 AM
punkgrrrlie10
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Originally Posted by kellychaos
I know it's a double-edged sword but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Doing something other than trying them or deporting them makes it seem to the rest of the world that we're trying to hide something.
Well if you haven't noticed, our gov't really doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks of it and also that is why the Supreme court said they couldn't hold them indefinately and had to give them rights.
Here's a synopsis:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/06/28/sc...ses/index.html

And you don't need evidence strong enough for a trial to hold someone, just probable cause to believe that they committed the crime. Then you can arrest and hold them, they get a prelim to decide if there is enough evidence to proceed to trial, which does not mean there is enough evidence to find guilt or innocence, just enough evidence to keep holding them or set bail or what have you, and there is a judge ruling on that in order to satisfy speedy trial rights and due process and THEN they get a trial in which they can decide whether they want a jury or judge decide their guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.


And then they can appeal for the next 10 years since prosecutions usually result in 90% conviction.
Jul 6th, 2004 04:18 PM
Matt Harty HEY MAX I FOUND YOUR GUY!
Jul 6th, 2004 04:17 PM
Lord Fetus Eater George, you are a complete and total idiot. Afghanistans natural gas? OK. Maybe we need more Grade school teaching jobs because obviously, your teacher taught you shit. And Bush did not allow 9/11, it was Clinton who brushed it under the rug and left it for Bush to handle. You pussies make me sick. VOTE BUSH 2004![/quote]
Jul 1st, 2004 04:18 PM
ranxer
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you can't hold them indefinitely else we would be hypocritically guilty of the same human rights violations for which we hold other countries guilty.
yea! no doubt!

however, our biggest problem is that many of the detainees are completly innocent. its a public relations spoof on the blue pillers.. swallow this idea that we are on top of terrorism folks.. we have all these people incarcerated so you are safe!

i call bull! .. cause the bush admin knew and facilitated the 9/11 attacks..making homeland security, the patriot act, afghan war, and the war on Iraq all based on a farce to enrich the contributors of the bush admin and the military industrial / prison industrial / oilygarky.
Jul 1st, 2004 02:46 PM
kellychaos
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Originally Posted by punkgrrrlie10
1. They aren't being detained on american soil 2. deport them and they still do terroristy things against us, doesn't stop them from coming back and 3. any good lawyer will tell them to shut up and not say anything which kind of nullifies trying to question them.
I know I'm being a bit naive here, but if the evidence were strong enough for a trial, then they should be able to get a least something substancial enough to bring them to trial. While I agree these guys are probably hardened criminals and have probably seen more horrific things than our best interrogation techniques, you can't hold them indefinitely else we would be hypocritically guilty of the same human rights violations for which we hold other countries guilty. I know it's a double-edged sword but you can't have your cake and eat it too. Doing something other than trying them or deporting them makes it seem to the rest of the world that we're trying to hide something.
Jun 30th, 2004 09:10 PM
ScruU2wice
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Originally Posted by stong bah
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux
29) lowest IQ of any president in history.
el wrongo
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No,
this isn't a real news report, nor does it describe a real study. There isn't a "Lovenstein Institute" in Scranton, Pennsylvania (or anywhere else in the USA), nor do any of the people quoted in the story exist, because this is just another spoof that was taken too seriously.
:/

Edit: and any of what you said Kelly would make sense if the US wanted to release the people they have detained. They want to hold them either because they want stop them from rejoining terrorist networks or they just wanna say "hey, look at how many terrorists we caught after 9/11..."
Jun 30th, 2004 08:15 PM
ItalianStereotype 47. you fucking suck, Arrow.
Jun 30th, 2004 06:51 PM
ArrowX 42.) He can't read

43.) Cant Ride a bike

44.) He's fron Texas

45.) According to a news article I read, he lost the 2 thirty megaton nukes that he supposedly placed in Iraq to make his story legit.

46.) Still alive
Jun 30th, 2004 06:42 PM
Cosmo Electrolux
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Originally Posted by stong bah
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux
29) lowest IQ of any president in history.
el wrongo


42. A plan for gay people to be "civil partners" and have all the same rights as married couples only not be married.

okay..he's still a fucking idiot.
Jun 30th, 2004 04:48 PM
punkgrrrlie10
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Originally Posted by kellychaos
Why is due process an option when we have can just deport them? I mean, if they are considered serious combatants, then detain them and question them until you are satisfied they are not threats. If there is any serious evidence that they are threats, then a trial shouldn't seem so menacing to our government. If there is nothing substantial, then they shouldn't have been held in the first place and should be deported. Even the slightest evidence of possible terrorist activity, if it can be somewhat substantiated, is proof enough to me for there deportation. You don't need a trial for that as they are not citizens and it seems to me that this fall under the jurisdiction of the INS and not the court system. Is that so hard to grasp? Any detaining beyond that makes it seem as if the government is trying to hold a card to be played later.
1. They aren't being detained on american soil 2. deport them and they still do terroristy things against us, doesn't stop them from coming back and 3. any good lawyer will tell them to shut up and not say anything which kind of nullifies trying to question them.
Jun 30th, 2004 03:52 PM
Sethomas Yeah, I think Warren Harding might have had a low enough IQ to rival Bush's claim to the lowest.
Jun 30th, 2004 03:09 PM
stong bah
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Originally Posted by Cosmo Electrolux
29) lowest IQ of any president in history.
el wrongo


42. A plan for gay people to be "civil partners" and have all the same rights as married couples only not be married.
Jun 30th, 2004 02:56 PM
kellychaos Why is due process an option when we have can just deport them? I mean, if they are considered serious combatants, then detain them and question them until you are satisfied they are not threats. If there is any serious evidence that they are threats, then a trial shouldn't seem so menacing to our government. If there is nothing substantial, then they shouldn't have been held in the first place and should be deported. Even the slightest evidence of possible terrorist activity, if it can be somewhat substantiated, is proof enough to me for there deportation. You don't need a trial for that as they are not citizens and it seems to me that this fall under the jurisdiction of the INS and not the court system. Is that so hard to grasp? Any detaining beyond that makes it seem as if the government is trying to hold a card to be played later.
Jun 30th, 2004 08:06 AM
Zhukov
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33) wrecking the worlds opinion of America.
I hold a much higher opinion of America now that I see how many people hate him.
Jun 30th, 2004 01:55 AM
Bobo Adobo 41. He looks like a monkey...

and smells like one too.
Jun 29th, 2004 09:08 PM
GAsux
Simple
Because Will Ferrell is gone and the new guy sucks in Bush skits. Maybe they'll have someone funnier for Kerry.
Jun 29th, 2004 05:36 PM
punkgrrrlie10 or both.

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Originally Posted by ScruU2wice
27) trying to hold "Enemy combatants" without due process


Everyonce in a while the current justices get it right
Jun 29th, 2004 03:53 PM
Stabby 37) Stealing an election.

38) Record surplus reduced to record defecit.

39) Dividing the country to such an extreme.

40) Either a liar or incompetent.
Jun 29th, 2004 03:14 PM
kellychaos Maybe he just needs to be pruned a bit. :/
Jun 29th, 2004 03:00 PM
ranxer 30) providing new reasons for alqaeda's growth.

31) killing tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians

32) putting our citizens and military in harms way for corporate control of oil and other contracts.

33) wrecking the worlds opinion of America.

34) escallating violence worldwide

35) empowering creationists

36) increasing dependance on oil and nukes with a bait and switch 'hydrogen economy'
Jun 29th, 2004 02:45 PM
Cosmo Electrolux 29) lowest IQ of any president in history.
Jun 29th, 2004 02:31 PM
Spectre X 28) gereral asshattery and cunting about, regarding the truth about him having been in the army.
Jun 29th, 2004 01:59 PM
ScruU2wice 27) trying to hold "Enemy combatants" without due process
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