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Sep 13th, 2008 01:07 AM
Tadao What? About how hot hell is?
Sep 13th, 2008 12:50 AM
Dixie I wish Gabby GaGa was here to tell us what she thinks.
Sep 12th, 2008 08:21 PM
DuFresne Shit, maybe I should buy a crowbar
Sep 12th, 2008 07:43 PM
DevilWearsPrada He's what you call an interdimensional contracter
Sep 12th, 2008 07:16 PM
Guitar Woman


FUCK
Aug 31st, 2008 02:39 PM
Guitar Woman I hope he doesn't accept cheese on shopping carts from this man.
Aug 31st, 2008 02:33 PM
10,000 Volt Ghost To put it into lehman's terms, a rap about the LHC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
Aug 14th, 2008 07:20 PM
LordSappington Shutting down... attempting shutdown... it's not... it's not shutting down!
Aug 14th, 2008 06:02 PM
DevilWearsPrada
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Also, CERTAIN PEOPLE claim that this is a scientist working on the project currently.

I have a hard time believing this but what an uncanny resemblance!
Push the sample into the resonance core.
Aug 10th, 2008 12:32 PM
Colonel Flagg MM - Actually, he was interviewed about 10 years after Chernobyl, and was reminded about that very statement he made at the lecture. He responded that he was foolish and naive, and that if he knew then what he knows now he would not have given nuclear power justification. Apparently, he was not as impressed with the second generation design reactors.

And, by the way, he is a real scientist - a PhD in Nuclear Physics.

Medical doctors, Physicists, Chemists and Biologists are all scientists of one ilk or another, but many of them are regrettably lacking in the ability to correctly interpret statistics. It's a common problem in the sciences, and incidentally, one of my pet peeves.
Aug 10th, 2008 07:56 AM
MetalMilitia
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Of course, on his watch in the USSR, a little thing called Chernobyl happened.

The problem in making ridiculous estimates like "one in a billion trillion" is that no one thinks about what happens if that "one" actually hits - Poof. The gun goes off, and the cat is dead. Or in this case, the earth.
Its' not really the same thing though as Chernobyl was a poorly built first generation nuclear power plant maintained by Ukrainian farm workers with no training.
His predictions may wall have been based on second generation power plants which were being built at the time of the Chernobyl disaster. These reactors are unable to sustain a reaction if problems occur and as such do have an extremely low possibility of failure.
The predictions being made about the LHC are being made by real scientists about a specific installation, and there is every reason to believe they're right.
Aug 10th, 2008 07:05 AM
Colonel Flagg
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Admittedly HL2 EP2 and portal needed to be longer, but EP2 was easily my favorite. Except those damn hunters always made me their bitches. If you didn't kill them fast enough, about five MORE always showed up for me. :P
:gaming perhaps?
Aug 10th, 2008 01:21 AM
LordSappington Admittedly HL2 EP2 and portal needed to be longer, but EP2 was easily my favorite. Except those damn hunters always made me their bitches. If you didn't kill them fast enough, about five MORE always showed up for me. :P
Aug 9th, 2008 12:51 AM
Colonel Flagg
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[...] this puts the physics community in the awkward position of telling the world, "According to these equations, the odds of a black hole created in an accelerator destroying the Earth are on the scale of one in a billion trillion. Right now we're fairly sure that these equations are accurate."
In my junior year of college, I attended a lecture given by Velojia Tokarevsky (sp?), who later went on to become the head of Nuclear Power Oversight in the (then) Soviet Union. This lecture, incidentally, occurred about 6 months after the accident at Three Mile Island. In it, he presented some factual data and some questionable assumptions (estimating the chance of a catastrophic nuclear accident to be equivalent to the earth being struck by a meteorite causing similar catastrophic damage), culminating in his final pronouncement that nuclear power was safe.

Of course, on his watch in the USSR, a little thing called Chernobyl happened.

The problem in making ridiculous estimates like "one in a billion trillion" is that no one thinks about what happens if that "one" actually hits - Poof. The gun goes off, and the cat is dead. Or in this case, the earth.
Aug 9th, 2008 12:26 AM
Sethomas So a doctor tells his patient, "I have good news and bad news for you. I will give you the bad news first: you're going to die very slowly over the next two months before you meet a miserable and painful end." Totally aghast, the patient weakly mumbles out in a flicker of hope, "what GOOD news could there possibly be?" To that, the doctor pointed you a voluptuous young woman and said, "see that intern over there? We fuck twice a week."

Anyways, I've been talking A LOT about this subject with people in recent months because the LHC is something I've been excited about (in non-eschatalogical lights, honestly) since 2001 or so. I used to read Brian Greene-type lay introductions to HIGH PHYSICS, but I readily admit that I don't have the requisite PhD(s) to have a legitimate voice except in certain areas where I can take an aesthetic preference to something. For instance, I concede that most people with a better understanding of the material opt for the Copenhagen or Many-Worlds interpretations, but I still prefer to go more along the lines of any of the hidden variable theories.

To be honest, coming to a CLASSROOM understanding of Relativity Theory and brief academic forays into particle physics gives me a way to easily imagine a black hole being formed in a particle accelerator... but it's not really the same way that I tend to hear others talk about it. In short, I take the subject to reduce to the fact that any object accelerated to ultra-high speeds would eventually acquire such a density that its gravitational escape velocity would equal c, and technically from there it could be manipulated to act as a conventional black hole. What i see in the news talks more about black holes being formed from anomaly events resulting from specific collisions between separate particles.

In any case, the physics community at large is of the opinion that Hawking Radiation would thoroughly absolve any man-made black hole from the possibility of destroying the earth. I've honestly never liked the actual approach with which Hawking Radiation takes its foundation, but people more educated than I am are very convinced that it happens. Hence, the hilarious thing is that this puts the physics community in the awkward position of telling the world, "According to these equations, the odds of a black hole created in an accelerator destroying the Earth are on the scale of one in a billion trillion. Right now we're fairly sure that these equations are accurate."
Aug 8th, 2008 11:46 PM
Kitsa If Pagliacci had been properly medicated, much savagery could have been avoided.
Aug 8th, 2008 11:44 PM
pac-man
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Originally Posted by Girl Drink Drunk View Post
A man goes to the doctor and says, "Doc, I feel depressed. Life seems harsh and cruel." The doctor replies, "The treatment is simple. The great clown, Pagliacci, is in town tonight. You should go see him. It will pick you up." The man bursts into tears and tells the doctor, "But doctor, I am Pagliacci..."
Aug 8th, 2008 11:40 PM
Girl Drink Drunk
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Originally Posted by pac-man View Post
I hold a degree and armchair physics, am a licensed backseat driver, and also play Monday morning quarterback.
Aug 8th, 2008 09:34 PM
Colonel Flagg
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Originally Posted by Kitsa View Post
Col. Flagg: you're exempt on the grounds of medical professionalism because I've been through the same curriculium, except mine was zoology.
Aug 8th, 2008 09:33 PM
Colonel Flagg
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Originally Posted by Tadao View Post
I haven't been following any of the hysteria, am I correct in assuming that the scientific community has no worries about this?
Yep.
Aug 8th, 2008 09:29 PM
pac-man I hold a degree and armchair physics, am a licensed backseat driver, and also play Monday morning quarterback.
Aug 8th, 2008 08:48 PM
Tadao I haven't been following any of the hysteria, am I correct in assuming that the scientific community has no worries about this?
Aug 8th, 2008 08:42 PM
Kitsa Col. Flagg: you're exempt on the grounds of medical professionalism because I've been through the same curriculium, except mine was zoology.
Aug 8th, 2008 08:35 PM
Colonel Flagg
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I wish someone would grow the balls to say they haven't the foggiest understanding of what those scientists are really doing, instead of playing armchair physicist. :/
I read your followup, and know you were speaking somewhat tongue in cheek, but will take the statement seriously for my response.

I majored in Physics in College, and one of my favorite subjects was Quantum Theory and subatomic physics. Sadly, I've forgotten much of what I once knew (early onset Alzheimer's) and I don't claim to be able to hold a night-light to Mr. Pace, let alone Professor Hawking. This being said, I will say that I'm enjoying the hysteria surrounding the great "on-turning" of the LHC. Truthfully, anything created within the huge torus will most likely have a maximum lifetime measured in microseconds, if not nanoseconds. This, by the way, is an eternity for a physicist, but is a pretty short timespan for the rest of us.

In any event, the particle physicists and theoreticians running experiments at the LHC will be learning a great deal about things that I used to understand, but now only am dimly aware.
Aug 8th, 2008 08:07 PM
Kitsa I was waiting for a Hawking joke, someone having him in a recliner with wheels,and no one did
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