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| Sep 6th, 2003 12:49 PM | ||||
| The_Rorschach |
"if i take jesus' preaching to heart and turn the other cheek i'm a liberal. . ." No. . .That would make you a Funde, and by association, a Conservative. . . not that it matters in the end. The Conservative movement as we know it today should really be called something else, they don't rate the legacy they recieve by association. Spoke with my Dad last night, I was feeling him out on commentators like Scarborough, Hannity, Carlson and O'Reilly. He thought O-Reilly was too soft on homosexuality, only to discover I was softer still on the issue, which naturally developed into a rather lengthy and heated argument. Goldwater was a true Conservative, in my opinion, and many of his social views were fairly liberal. For instance, he believed that one's sexuality, homo or hetero, should not be a factor of consideration when enlisting to serve one's country. Furthermore, he saw it was a constitutional right for one to lead such a lifestyle. Just as abortion should be an issue decided upon state by state, and not at a federal level. I guess the point of this post is simply to re-enforce Kevin's statement that despite one's political tendancy, they are not the physical manifestation of their party ideaology. People are people, and should be judged on an individual basis. To ask why Conservatives believe Liberals should be skewed is to commit the same flaw in logic as the man whom reputedly said all Liberals should be impaled upon rusted steel. |
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| Sep 6th, 2003 11:33 AM | ||||
| kellychaos |
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| Sep 6th, 2003 11:07 AM | ||||
| ranxer |
sorry i'm flippant, i thought we were talking about hatred.. hatred is pretty darn extreem.. honestly when i think of hatred i think of the opposite of some of our most peaceful leaders.. gandhi, martin luther king.. and jesus.. short list .. theres lots more. so, it seems to me that hatred is an opposite of love.. no? the thought that comes over and over about this is that the lack or vacuum that is filled by loss of love is hatred.. envy may be one reason that those that love get barraged by hatred when they speak out. i.e. i love the world and speak out against hatred and some people can't stand it so they scream at me.. i honestly don't know exactly why but i have my suspicians.. are they correct? 60% at best. |
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| Sep 4th, 2003 10:48 PM | ||||
| Perndog |
Understanding why someone holds an opinion doesn't make it any less fun to argue. 
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| Sep 4th, 2003 10:24 PM | ||||
| Immortal Goat | See, what you have to understand about Ranxer is that he seems to be a very religious person, and most very religious people I know follow the "Judge not, lest ye be judged (and if you do not believe in this, then you will BURN IN HELL)" philosophy. | |||
| Sep 4th, 2003 09:48 PM | ||||
| El Blanco |
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| Sep 4th, 2003 04:48 PM | ||||
| O71394658 |
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Yes, let's place the millions of people in the U.S. and say they're all green with envy and judgmental. :/
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| Sep 4th, 2003 11:17 AM | ||||
| ranxer |
haaha animal rights activists don't attack lab tech's they attack the labs. theres a difference between saying an action is wrong and saying a person is wrong.. yes i slide into using terms like evil and wrong headed.. but i also bring many people back to remind them that we are talking about human beings and that we all can change. maybe you are talking about different people but the hatred i see is coming mostly from religious fundamentalists that hate other races and other religions, whether we're talking about the middle east or america its the same hatred to me.. i wish they could do as thier books say to and leave the judgement to god.. i really would love to know why they aren't affraid of going to hell for breaking gods laws?? |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 08:24 PM | ||||
| Perndog |
Yeah, and all animal rights activists fully embrace those slaughterhouse owners whose opinions differ from theirs...gimme a break, dude. *Extremists* judge and can't embrace different views, while moderates are accepting, no matter which side of the spectrum they're on. Oh, and why aren't you accepting the opinion that embracing your enemy isn't the right thing to do, some of us believe that hate is a just thing. |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 08:19 PM | ||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 07:48 PM | ||||
| ranxer |
why do people hate liberals? that's easy.. envy if i take jesus' preaching to heart and turn the other cheek i'm a liberal and others who get all upset are predictably angry that i can embrace my 'enemy' the non-liberals believe in making judgements(i.e. not leaving it to god).. they cannot embrace anyone that has a view that is different than thiers.. hate is easy for that type of person.. natural even
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 11:52 AM | ||||
| Jeanette X |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 11:09 AM | ||||
| Emu |
I personally don't think true equality can be achieved between any two groups because we're all morons in the end. It seems like Feminists just want men to cut their balls off and keep them in fromaldahyde jars on their mante. Vegetarians want us to ignore natrual selection and dietary common sense and eat tofu. And the KKK is just plain nuts. There are SOME good points these groups have (Except the KKK, they just kind of yammer on) but I think most of them are a little self-righteous for their own good. I do have this to say: If everyone was middle of the road, we wouldn't get anywhere. |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 01:43 AM | ||||
| Skulhedface |
This is what happens when people refuse to accept that they weren't the fucking base model for every human ever made. That they are always right, and by default, anyone that disagrees is wrong. People just aren't tolerant of each other anymore, and rather than deal with it, they constantly want to regulate the behavior of others, refusing to believe there's life outside their box, and that the life they do acknowledge is the enemy. Groups like the KKK, especially. They have their pro-white agenda, but truthfully, how many of them were actually personally inconvenienced by black people? Feminists... a little more understandable, as men are pigs :wink but seriously, as I believe was already said, they are pulling for equality, but are not saying anything about drafts and such? Honestly, have ANY of you women signed up for the draft? Guys... if you're over 18 and you haven't, you're sure as hell in a lot of federal trouble. I disagree with both groups, Reps and Dems, because neither are right. Right and wrong is irrelevant in an opinion based argument. It's almost like people tearing the country asunder because they can't agree over Big Macs and Whoppers. |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 01:21 AM | ||||
| Perndog |
I don't know..I've been attacked from both the left and the right, and once they're riled up their self-righteousness sounds pretty similar to me. EDIT: Though, I guess when they're just being themselves and not reacting to something, their styles are a bit different...I see where you're coming from. I think the problem is whenever I have a conversation about someone's sacred cow I always get into a fight, and when the subject doesn't come up I don't see the person in front of me as a liberal or a conservative. |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 01:14 AM | ||||
| Big Papa Goat | I was talking more about the style of pundits and journalists then activists, but most of the behavior you described there is more whiny and bitchy then bullying. | |||
| Sep 3rd, 2003 12:40 AM | ||||
| Perndog |
Actually, a lot of liberals are bullying assholes. Try wearing a big fur coat and eating a hamburger at an animal rights rally or yelling "bomb the fuckers! at an anti-war rally. You will be attacked, though the animal people won't hurt you because the damn vegans are all malnourished and weak. "Fascist!" "Oppressor!" (the feminist warcry) "Corporate Dirtbag!" etc. I think the difference is that liberals are assholes in groups, but conservatives can be just as belligerent when they're outnumbered - I've read about many, many occasions where solitary, hardcore Baptist ministers have disrupted atheist and pagan gatherings, but no postmodernists ever rush into churches and yell, "God is dead." |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 12:17 AM | ||||
| Big Papa Goat | It could happen. | |||
| Sep 3rd, 2003 12:11 AM | ||||
| Jeanette X |
I don't know which is worse.  Come to think of it...it would be interesting to see the two reversed, the liberals being the bullying assholes and the conservates being the whiney bitches. |
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| Sep 3rd, 2003 12:08 AM | ||||
| Big Papa Goat | Liberals tend to be smartass whiny bitches, while conservatives tend towards angry, abrasive, bullying demagoguery. (sp?) | |||
| Sep 3rd, 2003 12:02 AM | ||||
| Jeanette X | I agree that liberals can be abrasive as well. However, I have noticed that there seem to be an awful lot more conservative demogauges (Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Mike Savage) than there are liberal ones. | |||
| Sep 2nd, 2003 11:43 PM | ||||
| Big Papa Goat | That communism doesn't work or that Emu doesn't know that communism doesn't work? | |||
| Sep 2nd, 2003 09:02 PM | ||||
| Zhukov |
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Shit. I should probably argue that point.
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| Sep 2nd, 2003 08:09 PM | ||||
| Emu | Sometimes the worst things in life are really, really crappy. | |||
| Sep 2nd, 2003 06:46 PM | ||||
| ItalianStereotype | worst thread ever :/ | |||
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