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| Oct 2nd, 2003 10:06 PM | ||
| ranxer |
baha solar for i trust the sun will rise more than i do for you to care no really, there's lots of alternates we can run generators on lpg, propane or natural gas, wind in some areas, geothermal, the money we save if we stop paying to keep oil flowing makes a solar renewable economy cheap by comparison especially because it doesnt require dictating to a foriegn land and pissing billions of people off. not to mention that the best use for fossil fuels is for recyclable plastic that will last many generations.. even as engine parts for hydrogen or other fuels..somedude in france has an air powered car .. pump it up it goes almost 60 miles oh yea i almost forgot to repeat that its a 'finite resource |
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| Oct 2nd, 2003 02:45 PM | ||
| mburbank |
I think he was talking about actual breathing. I think it was a reference to air quality. All that aside, I think the worlds reliance on a finite resource is a very good idea and a very good thing. It makes sense as a long term economic policy and I see no reason to change it here or anywhere in the world. The best part is that no one will ever, ever kill anyone else over oil. |
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| Oct 2nd, 2003 02:28 PM | ||
| VinceZeb | I guess ranxer is going to run his computer off of solar power! | |
| Oct 2nd, 2003 02:21 PM | ||
| Vibecrewangel |
ARGH Screw you Ranxer.... We hit $2.99 per gallon already |
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| Oct 2nd, 2003 02:17 PM | ||
| VinceZeb |
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| Oct 2nd, 2003 02:14 PM | ||
| ranxer |
i can't wait till gas is over 3 bucks a gallon in the US! ill breathe a bit easier |
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| Oct 2nd, 2003 12:14 PM | ||
| mburbank | This is exactly why we need to drill the crap out of Anwar and the continental shelf and get Iraq under some strict ass control! If we do those simple things, oil will stop being a finite resource and be there forever. | |
| Oct 2nd, 2003 11:11 AM | ||
| Buffalo Tom | I guess people will soon discover that God didn't give them legs just to push the gas and brake pedals. | |
| Oct 2nd, 2003 09:47 AM | ||
| sspadowsky |
Start hoarding gas now, kids. :) http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/eu...ing/index.html World oil and gas 'running out' By CNN's Graham Jones Thursday, October 2, 2003 Posted: 1245 GMT ( 8:45 PM HKT) Global oil supplies will peak soon after 2010, Swedish scientists say. LONDON, England -- Global warming will never bring a "doomsday scenario" a team of scientists says -- because oil and gas are running out much faster than thought. The world's oil reserves are up to 80 percent less than predicted, a team from Sweden's University of Uppsala says. Production levels will peak in about 10 years' time, they say. "Non-fossil fuels must come in much stronger than it had been hoped," Professor Kjell Alekett told CNN. Oil production levels will hit their maximum soon after 2010 with gas supplies peaking not long afterwards, the Swedish geologists say. At that point prices for petrol and other fuels will reach disastrous levels. Earlier studies have predicted oil supplies will not start falling until 2050. Alekett said that his team had examined data on oil and gas reserves from all over the world and we were "facing a very critical situation globally." "The thing we are surprised of is that people in general are not aware of the decline in supplies and the extent to which it will affect production. "The decline of oil and gas will affect the world population more than climate change." According to the Uppsala team, nightmare predictions of melting ice caps and searing temperatures will never come to pass because the reserves of oil and gas just are not big enough to create that much carbon dioxide (CO2). Alekett said that as well as there being inflated estimates, some countries in the Middle East had exaggerated the amount of reserves they had. Coal-burning could easily make up the shortfall. But burning coal would be even worse for the planet, as it would create even more CO2, he said. Predictions of global meltdown by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) sparked the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, an agreement obliging signatory nations to cut CO2 emissions. The IPCC examined a range of future scenarios, from profligate burning of fossil-fuels to a fast transition towards greener energy sources. The Uppsala team say the amount of oil and gas left is the equivalent of around 3,500 billion barrels of oil -- the IPCC say between 5,000 and 18,000 billion barrels. Alekett said his team had now established what they called the "Uppsala Protocol" to initiate discussion on how the problems of declining reserves could be tackled -- protecting the world economy but also addressing the problem of climate change. The conclusions of the Uppsala team were revealed in the magazine New Scientist Thursday, and Nebojsa Nakicenovic, of the University of Vienna who headed the IPCC team said it was standing by its figures. He said they had factored in a much broader and internationally accepted range of oil and gas estimates then the "conservative" Swedes. A conference in Russia this week heard a warning that global warming kills about 160,000 people through its effects every year. The numbers dying from "side-effects" of climate change, such as malaria and malnutrition, could almost double by 2020, the climate change conference in Moscow was told. "We estimate that climate change may already be causing in the region of 160,000 deaths... a year," Andrew Haines of the UK's London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine said. (Full story) Most deaths would be in developing nations in Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia, says Haines. These regions would be worst hit by the spread of malnutrition, diarrhea and malaria as a result of warmer temperatures, droughts and floods. |
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