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Oct 18th, 2003 03:54 PM

Perndog

This is fun.

Oct 18th, 2003 11:14 AM

Helm

You'd choose being a retard? Oh excuse me was that a rhetorical question? Oh excuse me was that not one of the available choices? Oh excuse me FUCK YOU

Oct 17th, 2003 06:16 PM

Perndog

White men can't jump, Greek men smell funny. I think I know which one I'd like to choose.

Oct 17th, 2003 06:01 PM

Helm

What am I supposed to do the low five shoulder-rubbing homo bulshit and then we're going to go shoot some hoops while I tell you you're a 'very base person'? White men can't jump

Oct 16th, 2003 10:14 PM

Perndog

Hi, Helm. :/

Oct 16th, 2003 08:48 AM

Helm

You pussy

Oct 15th, 2003 07:11 AM

We need to get this board picked up in search engines, I guess. I was reading some old ezboard threads through Google, like the Michael Jackson fan incursion. Gold.

Oct 14th, 2003 11:35 AM

whoreable

Someone needs to spread this thread to the "right places" if you know what i mean.

Oct 14th, 2003 05:32 AM

Blue

Damn pussy. Delete your posts before i see them

Oct 14th, 2003 12:00 AM

Rez

Quote:

Originally Posted by executioneer

fuck you, whoreable

-willie

i second that sentiment.

Oct 13th, 2003 11:00 PM

Stardrowned

I lost respect for Perndog.

Oct 13th, 2003 09:20 PM

Perndog

Post deleted. I don't need to defend myself to you people. It was stupid of me to bother.

Oct 13th, 2003 07:26 PM

Helm

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I am in a band

I hate your band.

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How does wealth constitute overindulgence? You implied that, but didn't back it up at all.

If you're wealthy and you're not overindulging yourself, then you're doubly stupid. Give it to charity and don't be wealthy since you're not using it. If you are using it, you're overindulging yourself. Vicious rumours were a great band, did you know that? WORD OF MOUTH!!11

Being wealthy doesn't mean you're nec. overindulging yourself. Indeed there's no way to support that. Usually it does, though and excuse me for lumping in the altruistic millionare with all the scumbag millionares maybe he should keep better company etc etc

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they will mostly be teenagers, they would be the ones I'm trying to attract.

If you're catering to a select target audience, whichever it may be as narrowly defined as yours, I just find it very hard to take your artistic output seriously. You might dissagree, but so far, the only art I do not find offensive is the art that doesn't presuppose what my taste is like and where I come from as a listener. I've found that the artist's intention is communicated very strongly in his art, and when that intention is as moronic as "Hey you, white horny teenager! Rock out! Good times! Le't get this party rollin'! " I just can't help but want to set set artist on fire, then loudly proclaim that I do indeed like it when the party gets hot. If you think MM's intention is any different than that, I say wishful thinking. Strip away all the 00's pretense and post-rock cynicism from, for example "This is the new Hit" and what you're left with is "party with us and buy our record!" I just want more from my music than that. Feel free to have a different oppinion, but then I have to say I think you're a moron, don't I?

Bottom line: this is an issue of ethics. I cannot stomach this american lifestyle mentality on any level. Today I saw on VH1 that Jlo made 36 million dollars this year by selling her skin in every possible way and it ennoys me just slightly more than say, an interview by korn or the deftones or creed (sorry carnivore). They share the same unsophisticated tired views on art, the relation between art and the audience, the presupposition of what 'rock' or 'popular music' is supposed to be... *sigh* everybody who makes it in the US seemingly falls into those predefined rockstar lifestyle choices and this trite superficial ethic and I'm just sick of it. This makes me somewhat bitter but the fact remains in my oppinion that your aspirations could use a more critical look.

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What would you be if you could be anything, and why aren't you on your way toward that goal right now?

If I could be anything I'd be a 40 feet tall robot setting the world on fire with my napalm breath and laser eyes. I'm working on it

Oct 13th, 2003 06:57 PM

Perndog

Post deleted.

Oct 13th, 2003 06:41 PM

Helm

I was under the impression that you were trying to become a 'professional' musician. As I have no interest to insult your school's marching band or your propensity for guitar noodling, I retract that bit about hating your band. I'll hate your band when you have one.

And you should look into what goes in being on stage. Meaning what makes it so likeable, seeing what a thoughtful person you are. I mean, could it hurt you though it looks so good?

HAhaahhah I just made a pop culture reference GRAGFGFghjg

Material success and overindulgence are different things. I said 'rich' not 'moderately well off'. Although I do think you're worthless if you want millions of teenagers to buy your poster so if that's what you'd be if you could be anything... suck my balls, I guess.

I didn't say anything about you don't being able to accomplish anything aside from your career aspirations so maybe you should keep that thousand times over fucking, passive agressive side of yourself, um... to yourself.

Oh yeah and fuck you too, I'm taller blahblah blah

Oct 13th, 2003 06:23 PM

Big McLargehuge

Michael Jackson is weird

Oct 13th, 2003 04:08 PM

Perndog

Post deleted.

Oct 13th, 2003 02:35 PM

Helm

The thing you you performing with Eminem for the money and fame: I just lost all potential respect towards you, your band, and any other misc. artistic endeavours you might actively or in the future maintain.

If you want to be famous, then you're a base, base person. Something like this just happens, and when it does, most of the people that are worth something do not even consider it an all-good thing. If you want to be rich, then you're a tool. If this american-dream mentality is what's fueling your artistic aspirations, I suggest you quit while you're ahead (if indeed you are) and spare us all yet another 'intellectual' popular artist rolemodel that 'made it on his own terms'. We have enough of those to mock and berate.

Oct 13th, 2003 06:13 AM

ha ha, fuck off. In "real life" Manson is just another junkie whore who just has a bit more imagination than the average 'artist' when it comes to fashion. He's not 'different', he just tries to shock because it pays to do so.

But when it comes down to who's more fucked up, it's obviously MICHAEL JACKSON. THAT'S MICHAEL JACKSON, GOOGLE SEARCH. MICHAEL JACKSON MICHEAL JCAKSON WACKO JACKO ERIKA CRYSTAL MY HOT AND STEAMY AFFAIR WITH MICHAEL JACKSON, JACKSON FIVE MICHAEL JERMAINE TITO JOE LA TOYA JANET. MICHAEL JACKSON FANSITE MICHAEL JACKSON FAN SITE FICTION ART LYRICS MUSIC.

Oct 12th, 2003 09:35 PM

Perndog

Anyone that influential is doing something right. I would perform with Eminem in a heartbeat for that kind of money and fame.

The tool is the guy who gets picked up off the street by a businessman and made famous. Not the guy who makes it to the top with his own band and manages to stay in the public eye and keep fans years after his shock value has worn off.

Oct 12th, 2003 07:19 PM

Helm

Yeah I think making money by performing with Eminem or having to go through disgusting MTV awards speeches after recieving your horrible nominations is good enough reason to think Manson is just another tool and nowhere near the enterprising got-the-industry-by-the-balls crafty person that you make him seem as.

Oct 11th, 2003 01:21 PM

Perndog

Three quarters of the shit people talk about Marilyn Manson is about his stage persona, which is intentionally fucked up. In real life, he is a very thoughtful though very unusual guy. He, unlike Michael Jackson, is not a pop star and a doll of mainstream culture who shocks and horrifies people by being a wacko. He knows he's different and revels in it, and shocks and horrifies people by *acting* like a wacko because he enjoys it. And if anyone bashes his music for being too mainstream and for catering to all the whiny goth kids, you ever think that may be because he'd like to make money and he knows how?

Oct 11th, 2003 12:55 PM

MK IV

At least manson only tries to scare little kids...

Oct 11th, 2003 11:16 AM

HickMan

You should get banned, man.

Oct 11th, 2003 10:08 AM

Helm

I hate ******s so I understand Jackson.

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