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Mar 10th, 2003 08:09 AM

KevinTheOmnivore

If you still can't understand the context of those posts, I pity you.

I'll be back to answer your diatribe on Zionism later. For now I'm off to take confidence in my books and teachers....cheerio!

Mar 10th, 2003 01:13 AM

Abcdxxxx

On point - you have way too much confidence in the books you read, and the things your teachers tell you. When YOU spit bigoted nonesense you're too in the dark to even realize it. Just the same way everything you say goes back to some reference that I hate "darkies" or something of that context. Yawwwwn. I wish I creeped out more ignorant fucks like yourself... cause you really shouldn't sleep well at night with your mindset. It's a fright.

Mar 8th, 2003 09:49 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Oh I have a clue, and I never left...

No, you really have no clue. And you're creepy.

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And I'm still waiting for you to defend your stance on Zionism.

lol, in what respect? When have you posed the question and had it gone unanswered? Last I recall we ended our discussion on a disagreement, I said that Zionism as defined by Herzl and others was greatly enforced by nationalism. You disagree. What would you like me to say otherwise...? Way to stay on topic, too. I'm glad you've proven once again that you don't really care about the substance of the thread, you merely look for reasons to assault me, because once again, you're creepy.

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Who's the bitch?

YOUR MOM!!!! OOOOOOHHH!!!

Mar 8th, 2003 07:24 PM

Abcdxxxx

Oh I have a clue, and I never left...

And I'm still waiting for you to defend your stance on Zionism.

Who's the bitch?

Mar 8th, 2003 06:33 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Wow, that was interesting to say the least. It might be funny if my family didn't come from a pre-Saddam Iraq. I don't see people in mudd huts, I see people that look and talk like my own father. Can you fathom that? Know what else I see? A lot of dumb ass american kids saying some really stupid shit . It makes me embaressed to live here. You sure have loads of sensitivity, compassion and respect don't you? Filled with humanity...for anyone who agrees with you maybe.

You're a complete moron, and everything that has previously been said went right over your head. Get some comprehension skills....

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Go talk about the sewage system some more you trite little bitch...and stop thinking your racist rants make for charming humor. Bet you sure had to wrap your head around that one huh?

Get a clue and come back, bitch.

Mar 8th, 2003 05:11 PM

Abcdxxxx

Mar 8th, 2003 04:12 PM

AS A MATTER OF FACT I WOULD TAKE THIS WHOLE SHINDIG ONE STEP FURTHER BY INSINUATING THAT THOSE WRETCHED MORLOCKS OVER IN IRAQISTAN ARE BEYOND REDEMPTION

THEREFORE I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MISTER TONY BLAIR TO SEND 60,000 SOLDIERS TO STATION THEMSELVES AROUND IRAQ AND SHOOT EVERYTHING THAT TRIES TO GET OUT IN ORDER TO PREVENT IT FROM TURNING INTO THAT GUY IN THAT MOVIE WHERE THEY UNFREEZE A CAVEMAN AND HE RIDES A SKATEBOARD.

Mar 8th, 2003 03:18 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

HEY, ABCDEFG.., COME ON, LETS BE "ANTI-WAR" TOGETHER!!! WE NEED TO GET IN THEIR AND BOMB THE FUCK OUT OF THESE MUTANTS, IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO SAVE THESE WRETCHED, HELPLESS, BACKWARD PEOPLE, RIGHT!!!?? I KNOW YOU'RE PICKIN' UP WHAT I'M THROWIN' DOWN, GOOD BUDDIE. :WINK :WINK

Mar 7th, 2003 11:31 AM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Yeah pre-Gulf conversation about their sewage system sounds real meaty. Are you on Saddam's payroll? if so, shouldn't it be your turn to blow yourself up pretty soon?

Well when does your 101st bomber gas up to kill some kids, huh shitface? Oh, wait, I forgot "you can be against war" "duh! You can hate Iraq, love sanctions, and in fact kill lots of people, and STILL be against war!!!" When you show some introspection I'll consider taking your jabs seriously. Until then, fuck off.

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It's just sad the way you keep hugging that television set of yours pretending to be a human shield everytime the nightly news comes on.

When have I ever said being a human shield was effective? Have you read me saying that somewhere? "Well, you can BE a pseudo-intellectual against the war who belittles everyone against the war, and supports sanctions, but STILL be against the war, right!!?"

HERE, WAIT, HERE WE GO: SADDAM IS A FAG, HIS PEOPLE ARE SAVAGES WHO LIVE IN MUD HUTS, AND THEY'RE TOO IGNORANT AND POOR TO KNOW HOW BAD HE IS. THEY DON'T READ PAPERS, THEY ONLY HAVE TOILET PAPER AND DRY CRAYONS. IRAQ HAS NO CULTURE, AND HAS NEVER HAD ANY INFRASTRUCTURE, IN FACT, ALL THEY DO IS WORSHIP THE CRAB GOD, THE DIRTY SHELL FISH CREATURE THAT CRAWLS OUT OF THE RIVERS IN IRAQ EVERY 2 MONTHS. SADDAM NEVER DID ANYTHING FOR THEM, SO THEY WERE FORCED TO REVERTING TO THE CRAB AS A LEADER. BUT IF YOU EVER! HEAR SOMEONE SAY THE HATE AMERICA AND LOVE SADDAM, IT'S CUZ THEY ARE TOO IGNORANT AND BACKWARD, AND THEY KNOW SADDAM IS WATCHING THEM WITH HIS GIANT EYE! THESE PEOPLE ARE COMPLETE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL, INEPT RETARDS!!!! oh, im against war though.

There, is that a more "balanced" perspective for you? What if I say it's ok to bomb him and kill only a FEW savages???? That's still anti-war right?? I mean, 7 dead backward Iraqis is only like 1/2 an American or Israeli, right bud???

Mar 7th, 2003 10:03 AM

mburbank

FS; you make stromng argument, but I'm not sure it's simplistci enough to be valuable as policy. Could you pair it down?

I'm thinking something like

"Friend Good, fire bad."

Mar 7th, 2003 06:51 AM

Kev, you're forgetting, "If you're not with us, you're against us."

SADDAM IS A BIG FAT DOODYHEAD

I BET HE'S GAY AND SLEEPS WITH CAMELS TOO

Mar 7th, 2003 01:53 AM

Abcdxxxx

Yeah pre-Gulf conversation about their sewage system sounds real meaty. Are you on Saddam's payroll? if so, shouldn't it be your turn to blow yourself up pretty soon?

It's just sad the way you keep hugging that television set of yours pretending to be a human shield everytime the nightly news comes on.

Mar 6th, 2003 10:50 PM

Pub Lover

Proto, take a second & look closer. :/
He is saying something stupid, but not what you think he is.

Mar 6th, 2003 09:22 PM

Protoclown

EDIT: GOD DAMMIT

I KNOW THERE WAS AN APOSTRAPHE AND A "T" IN THAT STATEMENT

IN MY HEAD

Mar 6th, 2003 08:04 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

Say what? Point me where all this talk of pre-1990 Iraq's been going on.

Read below.

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You yourself mentioned Iraq's sewage system. Why? Is it really consequential? Does it really paint the various shades missing from your underwear friends argument? Nopers.

Hmm, you wonder where the pre-Gulf War conversations are, but then when it's brought up you call it inconsequential...?

And aside from my underwear, I don't see how talking about the status of Iraq before it was blown to kingdom come, and then sanctioned, isn't relevant to conversation.

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Maybe you're getting the board confused with those little Mockery jamborees you all hold at the local TGIF Fridays Happy Hour??

Look, you were sent a invitation, and I don't buy that bull about the dog rubbing it's ass all over the mail and rubbing out the words....try again.

Mar 6th, 2003 07:43 PM

Abcdxxxx

"People on these boards don't support Hussein, and to imply otherwise is just silly. We do believe in looking at the whole picture, which includes looking at relations with Iraq prior to 1990, the status of Iraqi civilization prior to 1990, etc. Just some random examples."

Say what? Point me where all this talk of pre-1990 Iraq's been going on. Maybe you're getting the board confused with those little Mockery jamborees you all hold at the local TGIF Fridays Happy Hour??

You yourself mentioned Iraq's sewage system. Why? Is it really consequential? Does it really paint the various shades missing from your underwear friends argument? Nopers.

Spads - I vaguely agree, and my comments weren't directed towards you. Saddam has his fingers in a lot of pockets so I'm not sure we're really scapegoating him... but we are ignoring a lot of other like minded dictators who are someones problem... I'm just not sure it should be ours.

Mar 6th, 2003 07:41 PM

Abcdxxxx

Mar 6th, 2003 06:36 PM

Vibecrewangel

lol

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NOTE TO SELF: Cancel annual subscrition to "Saddamy whammy," the annual pin-up magazine/fan club for lovers of Iraqi dictators.

OMG......

Mar 6th, 2003 06:24 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx

I hate to agree with dimwit Herbivore, but there are far bigger offendors we're calling allies who would make for much better targets if we're going to make anyone a target at all.

You and I are going to be hanging out and stuff really soon, just like close "buds."

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That said - what purpose does this nonsense about talking up Hussein's good points serve????? Yeah they have a great sewage and garbage system... because he's a crazed maniac with fucked up priorities. Iraq IS oppressive.

Agreed. But you miss the point, and by doing so you perpetuate this same black/white reality that panties perpetuates.

Neither myself, nor anybody else I know of, uses the "good points" of Iraq to defend his actions. To say otherwise means your taking it out of context.

For example, I mainly brought up the "advanced" status of Iraq when Panty ass started talking about how us "modern" Americans will "modernize" the rest of the Arab world, and how they will love us for it.

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To say he provides free education, or even free haircuts for that matter means very little. Women are allowed to school in Iraq? How many female doctors, lawyers, politicians, scientists etc. are there in Iraq???? You can call him a moderate and compare the worser of two evils, but evil is still evil.

No one is calling HIM moderate. You gave an accurate criticism of Hussein, and I agree with you. But talking of Iraq in a context that isn't true (ie. panties over his head) just to further his war hopes is wrong. I'll use your logic: Why say that sanctions are a myth, that they hurt nobody, and that Saddam could make everyone in Iraq rich if he wanted??? Why not stick to relevant criticisms??

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You can be anti war without being pro Saddam. Try it.

NOTE TO SELF: Cancel annual subscrition to "Saddamy whammy," the annual pin-up magazine/fan club for lovers of Iraqi dictators. Don't be so naive. People on these boards don't support Hussein, and to imply otherwise is just silly. We do believe in looking at the whole picture, which includes looking at relations with Iraq prior to 1990, the status of Iraqi civilization prior to 1990, etc. Just some random examples.

Mar 6th, 2003 06:11 PM

KevinTheOmnivore

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Originally Posted by HNICPantitude

Incorrect SSpadowsky. Even Saddam has admitted to much more than he has come forward and said he destroyed. Where is the Sarin? We know he has it. We know because he told us. But he hasn't been able to tell us when it was destroyed, has he?

During the 90s, when Scott Ritter was the head inspector during the inspections in which these posessions were stated, yes, Saddam said he had these things. Some have argued though that he was lying then, among other reasons, in order to posture himself (this is common during arms agreements, you need to give SOMETHING up, so why not lie and say you have something?).

Now, when reviewing the dossier, The U.S. is saying "where is THIS!!??" We knew then he was probably full of shit. Now we want him to be honest, because it furthers our war aims.

Mar 6th, 2003 06:05 PM

BombsBurstingInAir

http://www.ott.doe.gov/facts/archives/fotw246.shtml

Mar 6th, 2003 05:48 PM

sspadowsky

Abcd, you miss the point; at least you miss mine. I don't think Saddam is a good guy, OK? I don't want to have him over for dinner, I'm not inviting him to join Kiwanis, get it?

He's a scapegoat in this case. A handy target. My contention is that, yes, we're going in there and taking him out, but we're not being told the truth about WHY we're really going over there. That is what pisses me off. Is he a bad guy? Certainly. Are there a whole shitload of dictators the world over who are probably just as bad? You better believe it. So I guess we better start bombing them, too.
________
Cheap airsoft tactical vest

Mar 6th, 2003 05:27 PM

Abcdxxxx

I have to wonder if expecting the Iraqi people to take to democracy is a bit like expecting an only child to know how to share and play nice with others. I'm not sure bombing them really makes sense. I hate to agree with dimwit Herbivore, but there are far bigger offendors we're calling allies who would make for much better targets if we're going to make anyone a target at all.

That said - what purpose does this nonsense about talking up Hussein's good points serve????? Yeah they have a great sewage and garbage system... because he's a crazed maniac with fucked up priorities. Iraq IS oppressive.

- Hussein DID gas the kurds,
- he was involved with wiping out an entire Jewish community
-he did attack neighboring countrys unprovoked,
- he has financially rewarded the families of Palestinians that commit suicide, and funded groups on our most wanted terrorist list
- he was involved in the first WTC bombing!!!!
- he has harbored terrorists such as abu nidal and allowed refuge for al qaeda training camps on occassion.
- he has actively created and USED chemicals on innocents
- he has kept prisoners of war
- and finally... he has violated UN resolutions, only it's the least of his sins.

To say he provides free education, or even free haircuts for that matter means very little. Women are allowed to school in Iraq? How many female doctors, lawyers, politicians, scientists etc. are there in Iraq???? You can call him a moderate and compare the worser of two evils, but evil is still evil. You can be anti war without being pro Saddam. Try it.

Mar 6th, 2003 04:38 PM

mburbank

Only cause they're all a bunch of weiners.

Seriously though, here's my hypothetical situation, okay? Bush is actually religous fanatic convinced God speaks to him. He's been told we are rappidly approaching armageddon, Saddam is the anti Christ and he is required BY THE LORD GOD to escalate the conflcit to Nuclear as soon as we go in. He's the commander in chief, no one cn stop him once we're militarily commited and you DON'T say NO TO GOD!!

You know. Hypothetically. I mean, you have no proof this ISN'T what he's planning. In a situation of such magnitude, I do not believe that you are innocent until proven guilty.

Mar 6th, 2003 04:35 PM

BombsBurstingInAir

Whatever you do Pantitude, don't use the word "republic" in arguements of this fashion. It is a time bomb.

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